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Oak Ridge Lab Supercomputer Doubles Performance

Anonymous Coward writes "The most powerful supercomputer available for general scientific research in the United States has undergone an upgrade that's doubled its peak performance. The Cray XT3 supercomputer at Tennessee's Oak Ridge National Laboratory can now perform up to 54 trillion calculations per second, up from its previous peak of 25 trillion calculations. 'It is probably the fifth-fastest machine' in the world, said Thomas Zacharia, associate laboratory director. 'It is clearly the fastest open-science machine in the U.S. today.'"

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  1. Seems like a lot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTFA: The overhaul was the first step in a multiyear, nearly $200 million contract between Seattle-based Cray Inc. and the Department of Energy to increase Oak Ridge's supercomputing capability to 1,000 trillion calculations per second, or one petaflop, by 2009. 54 -> 1,000 seems like an awful lot to jump upto!

    1. Re:Seems like a lot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm assuming that the first iteration of the hardware used some 5000 Opteron processors. This upgrade put dual-core Opteron processors into the same sockets, possibly with a speed bump.

      However the next upgrade (quad core opterons) would need new sockets surely? I imagine that Cray may also be replacing the CPU boards of course.

      Assuming that by 2009 AMD have an octo-core Opteron, then Cray only need to deploy 3 more supercomputers to reach the 1000.

      That, or deploy high-performance vector coprocessors alongside the Opterons, probably in HTX slots. This seems far more likely.

  2. Maybe they're getting ready by flinxmeister · · Score: 4, Funny

    for the Vista upgrade.

    Jumping the gun a bit, probably.

    1. Re:Maybe they're getting ready by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

      But they don't have the gpu power that is needed.

  3. Now for a Practical Use by queenb**ch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now that we have all that horsepower, the big decision comes....what to do with it? I have some suggestions that I think would greatly benefit mankind as a whole.

    1) Decrypt NSA keys so we can spy on them for a change
    2) Develop a fool-proof method of determing what is spam and forwarding it all to Bill Gates
    3) Calculate winning lotto numbers and donate the money to random charities
    4) Develop an algorythm that decides where to go for dinner
    5) Figure out how to make a pad that acutally stays in place AND doesn't stick to my a$$

    2 cents,

    QueenB

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    1. Re:Now for a Practical Use by legoburner · · Score: 3, Funny

      My christening of a new, uber-machine is normally done with the very very old-style pong. Nothing like multiple Ghz on multiple cores with a projector, TBs of HDD space and it all being used to run classic pong. Especially high-def classic pong.

    2. Re:Now for a Practical Use by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Funny

      Speaking of which, what exactly is the machine calculating right now? Oak Ridge's tax return?

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    3. Re:Now for a Practical Use by Cinnimod · · Score: 1

      I think you just gave me a new goal in life. I would also like to run MadOnion on that sucker just once.

    4. Re:Now for a Practical Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Now that we have all that horsepower, the big decision comes....what to do with it? I have some suggestions that I think would greatly benefit mankind as a whole.

      1) Decrypt NSA keys so we can spy on them for a change

      2) Develop a fool-proof method of determing what is spam and forwarding it all to Bill Gates

      3) Calculate winning lotto numbers and donate the money to random charities

      4) Develop an algorythm that decides where to go for dinner

      5) Figure out how to make a pad that acutally stays in place AND doesn't stick to my a$$

      1) Yeah, with the added power it will only take until the end of the universe to "decrypt" them instead of being impossible--assuming they aren't using one-time pads.

      2) I don't think fool-proof spam detection is computable, and spamming the world's biggest philanthropist doesn't seem like it would "benefit mankind as a whole."

      3) I KNOW predicting lotto numbers isn't computable.

      4) I also KNOW taste isn't computable, and if it were, it would vary.

      5) Ewww... Now we have too much information as an input.

    5. Re:Now for a Practical Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Now that we have all that horsepower, the big decision comes....what to do with it? I have some suggestions that I think would greatly benefit mankind as a whole. 1) Decrypt NSA keys so we can spy on them for a change

      Except that "we" don't own it and maybe the NSA does... (of course I knew you were joking, but this aside...)

    6. Re:Now for a Practical Use by GrEp · · Score: 1

      3) Calculate winning lotto numbers and donate the money to random charities

      (Ben) Pak Ching Li is the guru if you are actually interested.

      (link) to one of his papers.

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    7. Re:Now for a Practical Use by wavflux · · Score: 1

      Thats good QueenB. Maybe it could fix or even find Bush's brain 100000000X.This alone would make news and be a good PR stunt for Cray Power.

  4. Awesome by Donniedarkness · · Score: 4, Interesting
    That's awesome. You know what's a shame, though?

    I live in Tennessee, not too far from Oak Ridge (45 mins away). Most kids don't even know that there are labs there. The teachers don't mention them in school, and nobody cares.

    Honestly, there's not much in Tennessee that's special (I've lived here for all 18 years of my life), so I wish they'd actually TELL us about the awesome stuff we _DO_ have near us.

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    1. Re:Awesome by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't whinge to slashdot about it, phone the labs, phoen the school principal, get a few school trips round there organised. I doubt they'll see much (I understand they don't have any flashing lights and spinning tape drives anymore, which is when computers looked like they were big, powerful and doing important stuff) but I'm sure there'll be scientists more than happy to show them something impressive and talk about what they're up to.

    2. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what's even more awesome? WHen you get to the end of Old Potter's Road, keep on driving over the end of the bridge. You'll go through a portal that takes you to this city where all the scientists live. Really cool and no one in Tennessee knows a thing about it.

    3. Re:Awesome by flight_master · · Score: 1

      Eureka! You have found the secret!

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    4. Re:Awesome by matthewcraig · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess they don't call Oak Ridge "the secret city" for nothing, then!

    5. Re:Awesome by thane777 · · Score: 1

      Tell all the teachers you want. The gov't is not going to let just anyone in there. I used to work for Cray and upgraded the X1 they have there. Like an earlier poster mentioned, lots of power but little eye candy.

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    6. Re:Awesome by timeOday · · Score: 1
      I'm sure there'll be scientists more than happy to show them something impressive and talk about what they're up to.
      Maybe, maybe not. The National Labs have security measures in place that probably prohibit visits by the public.
    7. Re:Awesome by rthille · · Score: 1

      Well, there's probably screens to see and scientists who could talk about how being able to do the calcualtions are very important to their work. Good scientists are perhaps not as expressive as artists but I think if they are passionate about their work they can still impress that upon some young people.

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    8. Re:Awesome by chillax137 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I took a tour of the supercomputing facilities at the University of Oklahoma, and there was actually a lot of stuff for us to see and talk about. The air conditioning system for this room had like three fail safes, and if they all failed, the temperature of the room would increase by somewhere around 3 degrees per second. The director actually had flashing lights installed on the rack of computers. He said that when the state board of regents came around to distribute funding, it was a lot easier to persuade them when there was something to catch their attention.

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    9. Re:Awesome by beamdriver · · Score: 5, Informative
      Actually, we encourage people to visit us. Either during the summer or any time they want to schedule a tour.

      Of course, there's no major weapons work going on at BNL. At least, none that I know of.

    10. Re:Awesome by Domanost · · Score: 1

      True here where I live in Washington state in the town I live in there was a hardware company that made static hard drives for the goverment and for those black box's in airplanes. Most people in town never heard of the place. Only until after they left for another town did I meet someone that knew about the place just because his mom used to work there and big some big wig.

    11. Re:Awesome by Chineseyes · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes and I'd like to thank you and everyone else at BNL I was a student at Brentwood HS and at 16 around 1997 or so I was allowed to visit BNL once a week for a few months and even had a mentor. I was allowed to see the particle accelerator you have there and witness a lot of the projects that were ongoing. I also learned a lot of simple concepts such as the Norton and Thevenin equivalents, current divider rules, and even got a brief (although confusing at the time) introduction to second order LRC ciruits. The simple exposure to many of these concepts got me started on my path to Computer Engineer as a major. If it wasn't for some of the fine people at BNL I might have never chosen Computer Engineering as a major and made a career out of something that I love to do. Out of curiosity do they still have a mentoring program there?

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    12. Re:Awesome by Pollardito · · Score: 3, Funny

      maybe The Oak Ridge Boys could sing a song about the lab to raise public awareness (to the tune of Elvira) :

      I'm singin'
      El Jaguar, El Jaguar
      Five thousand Opterons on fire, El Jaguar

      Giddy Up Oom Poppa Omm Poppa Mow Mow
      Giddy Up Oom Poppa Omm Poppa Mow Mow
      Heigh-ho Silver, away

      Tonight I'm gonna ray trace me a big ol' honkin' scene
      And I'm gonna give her all the poly's I can, yes I am
      She's gonna have lights, shades and fill-ins
      'Cause I saved up my last two hundred million
      We're gonna go and find that researcher man

    13. Re:Awesome by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      Honestly, there's not much in Tennessee that's special (I've lived here for all 18 years of my life)

      I suspect your belief that there is little special in Tennessee has more to with your lack of experience than any lack in the state. Grow up and get out more.
    14. Re:Awesome by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 1

      No, Eureka is in the Pacific northwest, while Tennessee is in the southeast part of the US.

    15. Re:Awesome by errxn · · Score: 1

      I used to live in Oak Ridge as a kid, and loved it. It's a weird town, but it's pretty cool, for what it is. Don't forget about the Graphite Reactor. If the tour is the same as it was back in the day, you can see the spent fuel rods cooling in the water tank. They glow a nice blue. I'm not a physicist, but they claimed that it was perfectly safe.

      As far as the rest of East Tennessee, are you kidding? There's a *ton* of cool stuff to do. For starters, take a trip to the Smoky Mountains. Very nice. Then there's the whole Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge thing. Yeah, it's cheesy and tourist-trappy, but it's entertaining. Lots of cool things to do in and around Knoxville, as well. Especially next week, when I go up to the Cal/UT game...I can't wait!

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    16. Re:Awesome by trip11 · · Score: 1
      Oak Ridge Labs. The first nuclear reactor. The cesium forest. Nuclear airplane crash zone. Radioactive frogs. More too.

      They actually even let you go visit the first two. The last three being failed experiments that are still a bit too hot for the everyday public. Kind of blew my mind when I first read about them. Just google for each with the prefix "oak ridge".

      As a physicist though, the most interesting experiment there is the new Spallation Neutron Source http://www.sns.gov/ which is being finished (or is it done now I forget).

    17. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, there's no major weapons work going on at BNL.

      Except for destroying the universe.

      (I kid, I kid.)

    18. Re:Awesome by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      I currently live about 7 miles from the lab. It bugs me sometimes to be along a pretty decent technology corridor running from a bit east of Alcoa through Knoxville and west to Oak Ridge, and have people assume there's nothing here in East Tennessee but hillbillys. There are about a thousand people with PhDs in chemistry, physics, or math related fields living or working within 10 miles of me, dozens of very cutting edge tech related businesses, at least 3 high speed providers for residential use in my neighborhood, OCRs and really fast fiber buried all over the place, and the fastest growing business in the area is focused on keeping outsourced tech support in the USA for roughly half of NASDAC instead of letting it go to India. It's so techish, people throw old PDP-11's in the metal only bin at the waste treatment plant around here, and nobody bats an eye.
      The tallest buildings in the Oak Ridge area are only about 10 stories, but then thare's no pressure to build higher. The biggest particle accelerator out at the national lab is one of those tall objects, with supposedly another 10 stories or so underground.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spallation_Neutron_So urce will get you the wiki, although the project is much more finished than it shows.
      Problem is, you can't tour a lot of this casually. Since 9-11, the most weapons related facility (locally called Y-12 for the odd, old map coordinates used when it was built) has closed all access roads to general traffic, including these neat metal barriers labeled "Caution, road may spring up in face" and guards with 50 cal's and rocket launchers. Well before 9-11, it was open enough that I took drafting classes in a spare building on site, although even then it was a wear an ID and get your bag searched at the gate for recording devices type environment.
      The national labs (often called X-10 locally), may still allow some tours, but under much more control now (If they are still doing any, you'll probably have to call ahead to get on a list, and ride out on a tour bus from town instead of being able to drive yourself like you used to be able to do). You may still be able to see some modern research projects such as both the Spallation Neutron and Hollofield Ion accelerators, and there's a historic swiming pool design research reactor, but the web site I give below shows that even the reactor tour is currently closed, and I don't know how permanent this is. There are supposed to be some arrangements for students and such, but you definitely can't just show up at the gate.
      There's a train ride based tour of the older Gaseous Diffusion plant (locally called K-25). You can also still easily drive right past it and can stop at an overlook with a viewing station for free.
      http://oakridgevisitor.com/attractions.html
      At one era in the 40's-50's the central building there was literally the largest building in the world, in terms of floor space. Possibly you can even still get the ferret tour somewhere (The techs tied a string around a ferret's waist, and the ferret dragged the string to the other end of miles of really long ductwork. The ferret then got a treat while the string was then used to pull a bigger rope, the rope pulled a chain of pipe cleaning brushs, and so on. Imagine a building so big they kept a dozen ferrets on call just to clean ducts and pipes. (and No, the ferrets weren't used to sop up radiation or anything like that, but there's probably little or no demand for them now, and I don't know if there's any chance you can get a tour that shows that particular part anymore)).
      Around town, there are a few historic plaques - "Oppenheimer slept here" sort of stuff. (I know of a dozen houses that could legitimately brag that somebo

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    19. Re:Awesome by bucky0 · · Score: 1

      The reactor tour is still open, I went there a couple weeks ago.

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    20. Re:Awesome by bm_luethke · · Score: 1

      I'm from Knoxville, we toured it fairly regularly.

      The have touristy places to go like fake cutaway life size reactor cores (the graphite reactor is especially nice). We got to see things that glowed VERY bright from radioactivity as they came out of some reactor core. And quite a few other things.

      The have a "science museum" that you don't even need permission to go to - anyone can. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki exhibit is especially good (from discussion and pictures on radiation poisoning to life size models of Fat Boy and Little Man). I wouldn't make a trip to Oak Ridge for it - you can go through the whole thing in an afternoon, however if you are passing through or are a school kid there is unique stuff there.

      After college I worked there for a few years in the HPC department (not quite the same one with the Crays, worked on COTS clusters), they still have whirring tape machines and we can make the switches have nice flashy lights. I would go watch the tape robots occasionally - for some of the users storage needs it's still really the only way to go and the HPSS could be quite interesting if it was being hit hard.

      Not to mention there is still a lot of Manhattan project era stuff around to view. To any kid interested in science that's got to be neat.

      I know they still give the tours post-9/11 as it was not uncommon to have a bunch of kids watch me replace a hard drive or something in one of the machines. The city also co-ordinates tours for adults, I think they also go into Y-12 and K-25 (the two original enrichment plants) still but I am not sure (Y-12 does weapons research and is mostly off limits - at the point of a machine gun - and k-25 is being turned into an industrial park).

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    21. Re:Awesome by flight_master · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info... I didn't think they have pine-trees in the Redneck states. (sorry, Canadian here, eh :D)

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    22. Re:Awesome by Nathan · · Score: 1

      I grew up in Nashville, 3-4 hours from Oak Ridge. And my HS went to a few of the ORNL programs. At least back then (1990's) they had great programs. It's one of the reasons I went into computers, I thank them for that. Maybe it's not ORNL, maybe it's your high school/teachers. Get involved, go find out what is available and present it to the teachers!

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    23. Re:Awesome by triso · · Score: 1
      Honestly, there's not much in Tennessee that's special (I've lived here for all 18 years of my life), so I wish they'd actually TELL us about the awesome stuff we _DO_ have near us.
      Jack Daniel's, the Great Smoky Mountains and Graceland to name a few. Its all in how you look at things.
  5. According to the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They have to double it every 18 months.

  6. Imagine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of these!

    1. Re:Imagine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It actually is a cluster of Crays. I've been there myself. It is quite impressive (and loud). They run cooling through a raised floor. They actually have Multiple clusters. The Cray XT is just one of them. They have a really cool video wall build of 21 seamless 36ish inch screens. I'll see if I can find some of my pictures.

  7. What happened? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did someone lean on the turbo button?

    1. Re:What happened? by solitas · · Score: 1

      No - they just took a flip-flop out of the clock chain. In another 18 months they'll do it again - just think: in three years they can eliminate an entire 7470!

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    2. Re:What happened? by shanec · · Score: 1
      Nope, they just flipped the switch from "magic," to "more magic."

      (Kudos to all anyone who recognizes that!)

      As far as tours, and such, check out the AMSE - American Museum of Science and Energy. I don't know that they stop by the labs, but you'll get a pretty good idea of "The Secret City project," Oak Ridge's history during WWII, and how OR is morphing into a center for research in all areas.

      (Disclaimer: I work for the DOE, in Oak Ridge, so I see this stuff all the time.)

      Shane

    3. Re:What happened? by Jambon · · Score: 1

      Maybe. That or the Easy Button.

  8. Lt. Commander Data does 60 trillion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    In ST:TNG, Lt. Commander Data does 60 trillion operations per second. If they could just squeeze 6 more trillion operations out of that supercomputer, and get the right software and memory access speed, and fit it all into a Mac Mini-sized space, we could have our first sentient starfleet officer ready before Dr. Sung.

    1. Re:Lt. Commander Data does 60 trillion by Digitus1337 · · Score: 2, Informative

      He was rated at 60 trillion operations per second until Ep. #134, at which point something was done with bidirectional sequencing and his main interlink sequencer was converted to asynchronous operation. The size of his positronic links were no longer a bottleneck, and he was able to compute at a new and improved, but unspecified, speed.

    2. Re:Lt. Commander Data does 60 trillion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, I was watching "A Matter of Honor" (TNG 134) just now. That's the one where Riker does an exchange program aboard a Klingon ship. Upgrades to Data are never mentioned; you must be mistaken. I TRUMP YOUR STAR TREK KNOWLEDGE

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  9. Yeah--but does it run linux? by Kanaka+Kid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Oh yeah, teraflops so that it can run Vista... But can it run linux?

    1. Re:Yeah--but does it run linux? by thane777 · · Score: 1

      Actually, parts of it does. I could tell you more but then I'd have to kill you.

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    2. Re:Yeah--but does it run linux? by nephridium · · Score: 1

      Actually, parts of it does. I could tell you more but then I'd have to kill you.

      If you had said the other parts of it run Windows I'm sure you wouldn't have to kill most slashdotters since they would have done the honors themselves.

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    3. Re:Yeah--but does it run linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does run linux. There are Tux stickers and dolls all over the place. I forget how many nodes they use to achieve the power, I think it is on the order of 2000 or so nodes (of course the cpus are quad core as well). They have a few other clusters there as well. Some older Crays, and a LinuxPowered cluster of Opterons.

  10. But the question on everyone's mind... by caudron · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does it use Blue Ray or HD-DVD?

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  11. What kind of calculations? by Bromskloss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How is the speed measured? Blurb says "54 trillion calculations per second", but what kind of calculations is it? Moving of register content? Multiplication of 64 bit floating point numbers?

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    1. Re:What kind of calculations? by operagost · · Score: 1

      This is EXACTLY why I trust only the industry standard: BogoMIPS.

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    2. Re:What kind of calculations? by akh · · Score: 1

      Floating point addition, I'd presume. Probably SIMD but maybe register to register.

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    3. Re:What kind of calculations? by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 1

      Machines like that tend to report double-precision Linpack numbers, so that's probably what it's in. 64-bit matrix algebra.

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  12. In the quest for the answer to the ultimate... by owlnation · · Score: 3, Funny

    question of life the universe and everything it was not, of course, as big as the Earth. A computer so large that it was often mistaken for a planet. Except by the IAU who saw through the Earth's feeble attempt to be considered a planet and reclassified it as a large pocket calculator...

    Whether the inhabitants of Earth's matrix retaliate by reclassifying astronomers as pseudoscientists remains to be seen...

  13. Tribute to Johnny Carson by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

    Johnny: Wow, I tell ya, that new Oak Ridge supercomputer is fast.
    Crowd: How fast is it?
    Johnny: Awh, it's so fast, it'll do an infinite loop in seven seconds.
    MaMahon: Yessss!

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  14. Doubles? by houghi · · Score: 1

    It is times 2.16 when going from 25 to 54 trillion, not just times 2. Does that thing run on Pentiums?

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    1. Re:Doubles? by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 1

      it has slightly more than doubled...what's the problem?

    2. Re:Doubles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to hit you with a shovel so hard right now, it's not even funny.

  15. Yeah, but will they be.... by ClaraBow · · Score: 1

    adding more pipes so the internet can run faster?

    1. Re:Yeah, but will they be.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A computer this powerful would overload the internet. In order to prevent the internet from crashing, they've had its tubes tied.

  16. Oak Ridge National Labs Public Tour Info by Secrity · · Score: 1

    From http://www.ornl.gov/ornlhome/visiting.shtml#public

    "Public Tours

    The 2006 DOE Oak Ridge Facilities Public Tour continues through Friday, Sept. 29. The 2 ½-hour tour begins and ends at the American Museum of Science and Energy, 300 S. Tulane, Ave., Oak Ridge. The tour is open to U.S. citizens 10 years of age and older. Charge is $3-$5 and registration is conducted the morning of each tour at the museum. The route focuses on DOE missions and the history of Oak Ridge. The program highlights all three DOE Oak Ridge facilities - Oak Ridge National Laboratory, the Y-12 National Security Complex, and the East Tennessee Technology Park -- and includes an off-the-bus stop at ORNL's Graphite Reactor Museum, the New Bethel Baptist Church and the East Tennessee Technology Park Visitors Overlook. The Friday tour stops at the new Spallation Neutron Source.

    Nearly 20,000 people from 50 states have taken the public tour since its inception. The program is offered primarily for visitors who have a nontechnical interest in the DOE facilities. For more information, contact Fred Strohl (strohlhf [add an at sign here] ornl [add a dot here] gov, 865.574.4165). "

  17. Yes but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is it powerful enough to run Vista?

  18. There's Ten Tec in Sevierville! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - one of the last quality U.S. amateur radio manufacturers!

  19. Yes, but by hcdejong · · Score: 0, Troll

    (avoiding the obvious)
    ...was it designed on a Mac?

    1. Re:Yes, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't a troll, people.

      I forget which model it was, or whether this story is actually true, but it's well circulated. At one point, Apple was proudly boasting that they used a Cray to make the design for an apple in order to optimize air flow, heat dissipation, etc. etc. Mr. Cray came back at some point later and said "That's funny, because I actually used the previous generation of Apple to design this particular machine."

    2. Re:Yes, but by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      Precisely. There's also a story that one day, a guy walks into Cray HQ and says he wants to buy a supercomputer. They almost threw him out before realizing he was serious. That guy was Steve Jobs, of course, the only walk-in customer Cray ever had.

  20. Turbo? by joetheappleguy · · Score: 1

    "Ah, so that's what that turbo button does!"

  21. 2 month old news by kill-1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The original press release:

    http://investors.cray.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=98390&p= irol-newsArticle&ID=873357

    All they do is upgrade to dual-core Opterons, hence the double performance.

    1. Re:2 month old news by wavflux · · Score: 1

      All they do is upgrade to dual-core Opterons, hence the double performance. I would think some of the higher end P Chips dual core 2MB cache would have over taken the AMD for the CRAY

  22. Skynet by AlastairMurray · · Score: 1

    So this public computer is now processing at 54 Teraflops? In the Terminator series didn't Skynet take over the world when it reached 60?

    I for one welcome our new supercomputer overlords.

  23. Nah by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    No, its just an easy 'upgrade'. build in the speed, and when the customer pays more, you go in, spend a few days pretendending to do an upgrade when all you do is flip a swtich somewhere.

    ( yes im kidding, but it has been done in the past... intentoinally crippling hardware so that there is 'room for growth' when you pay more )

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  24. Only 2X ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Oh man, I told you to used the quad core chips for this upgrade,
    not the duals!" ;-)

  25. "High def classic pong" is so yesterday by new500 · · Score: 1
    The real Oak Ridge reason for upgrade - solar system simulation gaming:

    "Oh, I've heard of worse," said Ford, "I read of one planet off in the seventh dimension that got used as a ball in a game of intergalactic bar billiards. Got potted straight into a black hole. Killed ten billion people."
    "That's mad," said Mella.
    "Yes, only scored thirty points too."
    Our labs are prepared for our uber-rich Magrathea - customer overlords.
  26. Yeah, but... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... that's just the minimum recommended system configuration for release 2 of the Windows Vista Home edition.

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  27. So it could generate bobbles... by gatkinso · · Score: 1

    50 times faster than the original Peacer bobbler, and probably with better accuracy.

    Not to shabby.

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  28. a pointless personal anecdote by Quadraginta · · Score: 1

    I recall visiting ORNL as part of a recruiting visit to UT-Knoxville (the position offered a joint appointment at ORNL -- how cool is that?)

    Two curious events from that trip:

    First, I was working at the University of Chicago at the time, and when I checked in with security I had to sign in. I remember it being a wood building that looked like it had been built in the 1940s as a "temporary" war-building and never replaced. It gave me an odd feeling to sign in with security in a 1940s-looking building as Dr. So-and-so, from the University of Chicago, here to visit the Oak Ridge facility. If you know your history of The Bomb, you'll recall there was much traffic between the U of C, where Fermi and others did academic-type work on nuclear fission, including building the first pile, and Oak Ridge, where they worked on many practical aspects of atomic weapons. It was a moment that brought the history to life for me.

    Second, a post-doc took me on a tour of the spectroscopy facilities near one of the reactors, and as we were picking our way through the equipment, designed to collect beams of neutrons from the reactor core, I remember him stopping suddenly before crossing an unremarkable gap in the equipment. He thought carefully for a while, then stepped across the gap, muttering in a somewhat off-hand way "Oh this will be all right, I remember now the reactor is not running today." Uh...ok.

    I consider myself pretty modern and enlightened, but in that momemt I could kind of understand all those people who have paranoid fears of nuclear technology. It is unnerving to think that something completely silent and invisible, yet completely deadly, could be right next to you, and you need to take the word of some distracted-looking pocket-protector-type that, gee, it's OK today, the reactor isn't on. (I think we should take his word, but I can understand how it makes people nervous.)

  29. So... by sejinh · · Score: 1

    When does it come onto the market? And can I put Linux on it?

    1. Re:So... by pegwole · · Score: 0

      Wonder how long it'd take to compile everythign if you put Gentoo on it...

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  30. They built the system... by notnAP · · Score: 1

    ... to play doom.

    1. Re:They built the system... by pegwole · · Score: 0

      Imagine the sweet LAN partiess you could have with that thing.... "Hey Ted, what are you running on that thing?" "Well, besides every version of Doom, Quake, and Unreal ever made, i'm also running Set@Home and Folding@Home. Also checking MySpace, CNN, and playing a game of NETHACK! oh wait, I just found the amulet of Yendor...guess i'm doing plaing Nethack now..." And it was at that time Robert's head exploded...

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  31. Yes, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...in Soviet Tennessee, supercomputer doubles you!

  32. Tours by Alan426 · · Score: 1

    Apparently, so do they.

  33. Bush's brain by wavflux · · Score: 1

    Maybe they could find Bush's brain with it.Or atlases narrow it to a 100 mile radius.The Skynet Corp. can probally help out at 60 Terafloppies!!!

  34. Have you heard of Plasma Pong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plasma Pong is a BRILLIANT and clever game that uses genuine fluid-dynamics simulation done on the GPU to create an incredibly beutiful game. It is utterly hypnotic on my 24" Dell widescreen and would be mesmerizing as a wall sized projection. I also find it extremely amusing how we have enough computing poewer nowadays to use real-time accurate physics like this just to enhance Pong, of all things. It seems down-right decadent, like using $100 bills to wipe your ass.