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The NYT's OS-Restrictive Video Policies

ro1 writes to mention a story on Linux.com about the NYT's confusing video policies. Essentially, if you're running Linux you can only see videos running on the front page of the site; videos elsewhere on the site require Windows or OSX. Roblimo has a video tour of the NYT site to explain the issue in detail. (Linux.com and Slashdot are both owned by OSTG.)

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  1. Karma Whoring by Aqws · · Score: 4, Informative

    For everyone using firefox, here's a nice little extension to get past this stuff. You can also set it as a googlebot and get all their articles for free.

    1. Re:Karma Whoring by Aqws · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ok, nevermind, RTFA, the parent is incorrect

  2. Re:NY Times, or Linux? by kripkenstein · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently changing the UA string doesn't make a difference.. surely this would suggest to you a bug with the implementation of videos/flash etc under Linux

    The point is that videos from the front page do work fine under Linux. So there is no reason to prevent other videos from working.

  3. Just to quash any rumors to the contrary... by andymadigan · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just set my User Agent in Firefox 1.5.0.5/Ubuntu Linux 6.06 to Opera 8.0/Win 2000, after whitelisting the site with flashblock, the video played perfectly in the Videos section, and I wasn't shooed away by any browser detection.

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  4. Re:Funny! by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Informative
    Now _that's_ ridiculous!

    Yes. However, I think I should have qualified it. I wrote that due to something in the wget man page:

    Identify as agent-string to the HTTP server. The HTTP protocol allows the clients to identify themselves using a User-Agent header field. This enables distinguishing the WWW software, usually for statistical purposes or for tracing of protocol violations. Wget normally identifies as `Wget/version', version being the current version number of Wget. However, some sites have been known to impose the policy of tailoring the output according to the User-Agent-supplied information. While conceptually this is not such a bad idea, it has been abused by servers denying information to clients other than Mozilla or Microsoft Internet Explorer. This option allows you to change the User-Agent line issued by Wget. Use of this option is discouraged, unless you really know what you are doing. NOTE that Netscape Communications Corp. has claimed that false transmissions of `Mozilla' as the User-Agent are a copyright infringement, which will be prosecuted. DO NOT misrepresent Wget as Mozilla.

    However - that item is not in the current version of wget, so who knows.

    Interesting hoever, that netscape at least at one point in time claimed copyright on "Mozilla" in a UA string.
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  5. Re:If by arkhan_jg · · Score: 2, Informative

    Those statistics are for the bbc homepage only, for one week in september 2005. He even states that he expects an above average number of people visiting the front page are newer-to-the-internet users (because they haven't bookmarked the inside section they want yet), and those on corporate systems as the bbc is deemed 'safe' to visit from work. This is based on their user profiling in the past.

    Both of those would depress the number of alternative OS and browser users. You also have to factor in the number of linux users that have already altered their Useragent string to windows+IE in order to bypass moronic page restrictions like the NYT. Windows+IE native users of course, have very little need to alter theirs.

    Finally, that was a year ago. Vista still isn't out, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if both the numbers for OSX and linux were up, and of course firefox adoption - especially given an increasing number of corporates are adopting it for security. Certainly, the broad sweep of those figures is reasonable (I wouldn't expect linux use to be above 2% in those circumstances) but I wouldn't count on them as completely gospel of the current OS and browser useage for general users.

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  6. Re:Funny! by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative
    NOTE that Netscape Communications Corp. has claimed that false transmissions of `Mozilla' as the User-Agent are a copyright infringement, which will be prosecuted. DO NOT misrepresent Wget as Mozilla.

    That's total bullshit. You can't copyright a single word. (Trademark is another thing; but many browsers say "Mozilla compatible" and that can't be illegal as there is no attempt to say that it actually IS Mozilla.)

  7. Re:What's with. . . by SolarCanine · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's called full disclosure, and it's pretty standard when dealing with a "reputable" journalism source.

  8. A statistic that may surprise you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The chances are that most people here use linux

    Actually I believe that most slashdotters use Windows. A couple of weeks ago I posted a comment that contained a URL to my home computer (it was deep down inside an obscure thread about the durability of Egyptian pyramids, so I didn't get slashdotted). The log showed that most of the hits from /.ers were using Firefox, as you'd expect, but more than half of all hits used some flavor of Windows.

  9. Re:NY Times, or Linux? by Nutria · · Score: 2, Informative
    the boy scouts at least used to require faith in a monotheistic religion, for example

    The Boy Scouts are not a commercial entity. That's why they can "get away" with it.

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  10. Re:Flash Versions by Tornado419 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Adobe is creating a Flash 9 player for linux. You can read the developer's blog here