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Laser Shortage to Stall High-Def Disc War?

An anonymous reader writes "DigiTimes reports that several major vendors, including Sony and Matsushita, have suspended shipments of the blue laser diodes that drive both high-def disc formats. The rumored laser shortage could result in shipment delays for new models of Blu-ray and HD DVD players and drives past the upcoming holiday season, cooling the next-gen DVD format war until 2007."

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  1. This just gets better all the time by Nice2Cats · · Score: 5, Insightful
    First they do the two-format-thing all over again. Then they keep all kinds of crap that pissed people off with DVDs such as the Regional Code. After that, they tell us that there will be draconian DRM. The prices are simply sick. And in the end, the added quality just doesn't change my life. Cool, yes, impressive with computer generated films, of course, but worth the price, the loss of control and the hassle? No way.

    This is turning out to be all stuff and nonsense, and I think I'll just skip HD-DVD and Blu-ray one and wait for the next next generation, when maybe somebody with half a brain is involved. DVD is perfectly good enough for me, thank you very much.

    1. Re:This just gets better all the time by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes.

      There were early adopters who went out and bought the obscenely priced first generation DVD players, but by and large the rest of the world didn't really follow suit until the players dropped below about $200 and Blockbuster started stocking a lot of new releases on DVD. And I wouldn't say that DVDs became ubiquitous until the cheap chinese ($50) "WalMart Special" DVD players came onto the scene.

      Frankly, early on I think the biggest benefit to most people of DVDs versus VHS is that you didn't have to rewind it. I know my parents just thought that was the coolest damn thing; you could talk to them about digital audio until you were blue in the face, but what they liked was the ability to jump instantly to any point in a film, pause it for extended lengths of time without "wearing" the disc, and never having to worry about rewind anything.

      I think whichever HD-disc format wins, it'll end up being like that. Mainstream consumers aren't going to buy it, until there are movies down at Blockbuster that they can rent, and they can buy the player at Walmart for under $200-250. Normal people just don't spend much more than that on what's effectively a fancy videocassette player (even if it's not really a cassette player...in most people's minds, the function is exactly the same, to play movies).

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  2. Those who do not learn from their OWN history.. by PhakeDC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ..are doomed to repeat it!

  3. That does it! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    DigiTimes reports that several major vendors, including Sony and Matsushita, have suspended shipments of the blue laser diodes that drive both high-def disc formats.

    Bad enough that Sony is shoving an over-priced PS3 down consumers throats. Now they're throttling the market for other players. The Sony monopoly must die!

    Or, at least, cut the damn prices on the PS3.

  4. Re:meanwhile... by Amouth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    my thoughts exactly.. MS doesn't have to have the blue lasers.. the 360 doesn't need them.. just the add on hd drive which they havn't released yet.. ps3 needs them and i am sure sony will either not sell to others till they have what they need or run short them selves.

    if they run short they are just putting salt in the wound where they shot them selves in the foot.

    if they are just stopping sale to out side people so that they will have what they need for the ps3 they are going to piss their partners off even more.. because they can't stop selling to hd-dvd people and not blue-ray people... that would be anti competive

    should be intresting to see how the next 6 months role out..

    as for the big N - they have nothing to fear, as always

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  5. Re:Clearly this is bad news for Sony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You're right. I don't see how a shortage of lasers for Blu-Ray drives affects Sony and the PS3 at all. No connection what so ever. All sarcasm aside, this may not affect the PS3 much. If they haven't started manufacturing them yet then they won't be able to produce that many by years end. I doubt the laser component will cause PS3, sorry PLAYSTATION 3/PS3[R], manufacturing much at all.

  6. I think "war" might not be the right word.... by ProppaT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't exactly see anyone chomping at the bit to buy into HD video at this point, especially seeing that the movie selection is low and most DVD afficienado's already have a very large collection of discs at this point. This war is being aimed towards gear heads and gadget collectors. There is no real compelling reason to switch formats, especially if it means paying more for media. I think DVD is good enough for the population now and that people realize that. Especially seeing that the adoption rate for HD is well under where everyone speculated it would be years ago. This "war" is going the same way the surround sound cd war went. No where. No one really felt like investing money rebuying cd's, which sound good enough. On top of that, the music nuts that would normally be into this kinda thing have invested enough money in their "stereo" rig where they don't always want to invest twice again that much money in a surround sound system. It's very rare that you'd get a chance to listen to music in your livingroom (where your surround system is probably set up to begin with) with family around anyway. I guess the point to this rant (and common theme throughout this rant) is the word "enough." I think society as a whole is suffering technology burnout. Things change so quickly that the general population wants to sit on the sideline, see where all these rapid advances eventually take us, and then buy in. Then again, seeing our current political situation, maybe war is the right term for this. A fight that no one wants but big brother insists on.

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    1. Re:I think "war" might not be the right word.... by evilviper · · Score: 2, Insightful
      and most DVD afficienado's already have a very large collection of discs at this point.

      Plain and simple FUD. HD-DVD and Blu-ray players will play all your current DVDs just fine. Implying that you have to go rebuy your collection is unbelivably stupid.

      I think society as a whole is suffering technology burnout.

      And the whole basis for this belief of yours is...?
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    2. Re:I think "war" might not be the right word.... by hardburn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plain and simple FUD. HD-DVD and Blu-ray players will play all your current DVDs just fine. Implying that you have to go rebuy your collection is unbelivably stupid.

      Why would I buy a next-gen player to play my old DVDs?

      If I bother to buy a next-gen player, I want as many movies in that new format as I can. Movies in next-gen formats are going to take time to get here, and the quality difference from DVDs -> HD-DVD/Blu-ray isn't as great (certainly not as much as VHS -> DVD), so I have less incentive to bother buying it. If I don't have an HD TV, the quality difference is nil.

      So, the cost of replacing my current collection is not worth the additional quality, and therefore buying a player is pointless.

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  7. Re:PS3? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    if this won't affect the PS3, is this a way for Sony to get a leg up on HD-DVD? eg, divert blue LEDs to the PS3 a Blu-ray device, while leaving HD-DVD manufacturers out of luck? despite all the necessary caveats on the PS3, at least some will be sold this year. not trying to be a conspiratist, but is this one of the fallouts? or does sony already only ship to Blu-Ray manufacturers?

  8. Re:Won't anyone think of the poor PS3? by DragonWriter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Um, Sony's stopped shipping the lasers to other people because they are using them in the PS3.

    Plus, the artificial shortage they are creating will likely increase the prices for whatever lasers they do decide to sell to others, while the shortage of lasers means less competition for Sony players.

    How is Sony losing, here?

  9. Re:There is *NO SHORTAGE* by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't worry, there's still a sizeable number of die-hard SONY fans out there who will buy Sony's latest crap, no matter how bad it is or how overpriced it is. They'll even take out a second mortgage on their house just to buy the latest Sony dud.