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Dell Battery Recall- Win for the Web

conq writes "BusinessWeek has an article on how the Dell recalls show the true power of the web and how the attack on the Dell batteries evolved on the web. From the article: But in cyberspace the race was on to dig out every last byte of 'truth' about those flaming PCs. Gadget news blogs like Gizmodo and Engadget spat out facts and rumors with equal zeal. They were relentless advocates for the consumer, too. On July 31, Engadget posted photos of a Dell notebook that had caught fire in Singapore. Its comment: 'We'll keep posting these until we see a recall or a solution, so please, Dell, treat 'em right.'"

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  1. writing this on a Dell laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cool! First Po...(bang!)

  2. assuming the web was the cause... by doce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This, of course, assumes that "the web" was directly at cause for the eventual recall.

    Having worked QA for a competitor of Dell's that's under similar scrutiny, and knowing what mechanisms we had in place, I would imagine that the various bloggers had - at best - a tangential relationship to the end game here. Of course, that's assuming that Dell has QA mechanisms in place that are at least half as smart as ours were...

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    1. Re:assuming the web was the cause... by LindseyJ · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shhhh! Man, the Slashdot Circle-Jerk hasn't even started yet and you're already trying to rain on their parade!

    2. Re:assuming the web was the cause... by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's not rain.

  3. Great - now the bloggers think they're fantastic by DarenN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm really sick of these "bloggers are great" article. There are hundreds of thousands of blogs out there. Nearly all of them are irrelevent crap. Some have evolved through effort and investment into almost proper news sites. Congratualtions to them. Now stop calling yourself blogs. You're news sites (because you don't just post unsubstanciated crap).

    Face it folks, your "blogosphere" is a mob of people who believe anything that their favorite "blog aka news site" posts, and that is ANYTHING AT ALL at times, and repost it themselves, often not even bothering to change a single character. They have no power, and never will. It's essentially the same as the fat outraged bloke in the pub that never shuts up about what he read in The Sun, despite not ever checking facts, figures, or common sense. I wish people would stop glamorising this crap.

    And I'd like to say one more time, to all those who DO use their brains, and use sources, and not fly off the handle (like the O'Reilly incident), thanks for the news.
    To Slashdot I say: Check the stories.

    End of Rant :)

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  4. Re:This helped for the apple recall too by Afrosheen · · Score: 5, Informative

    You are correct, Sony is footing most of the bill. The funny thing is, the majority of the batteries involved (in the older D600 series and across the line) have already gone to battery heaven due to their age and lack of storage ability. None of my 6 clients with D600's had a battery affected by the recall.

      Dell estimated the bill at around $300m USD so it's just a one-time write-off for Sony. With their total sales of $71.2B USD in 2004, I doubt that 300m USD will hurt them at all. It's more painful for their reputation than anything. After all, when big boys like Dell and Apple rely on you for batteries and you give them C4, they get upset.

  5. Re:This is a good thing. by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Years ago, it was always a bit easier for companies to have defective products or bad customer service because there was no way to really get information out to the masses.

    Er... exactly how many years ago do you mean. Over her in the UK consumer programs on television have been seriously high in the ratings since the sixties - maybe even the fifties but my family only got a TV in 61, so I can't remember. And before that there were the curious things called newspapers which... well you get the gist of what I'm saying. Even today, for the vast majority of consumers the prime source of information will be television, and that internet thingy is only used by the kids/for e-mail/pr0n/on-line poker.

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  6. Tinfoil Hat On by WebHostingGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why do you think these companies recalled the batteries? By choice? No, once it was discovered the laptops could explode the government forced the recall so terrorists would not buy hundreds of laptops and turn them on while flying...

    Think about it.

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    1. Re:Tinfoil Hat On by Daytona955i · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or maybe, just maybe, a company said hey, these are dangerous and we should recall them. Companies do it all the time even when there's not a chance of things catching on fire. Perhaps it's to avoid a class action lawsuit, perhaps it's ethics, perhaps it's because if they don't, people won't buy their product anymore.

      I could post doctored photos posing as various different people and cause an "uproar." Does this mean a company like Dell is going to recall their product with no investigation into my claims? I'd hope not.

  7. Dell vs Apple by MaWeiTao · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Didn't Apple just recall well over a million batteries for pretty much the same exact reason?

    Why is it that when someone like Dell has a problem leading to a recall it's assumed they were doing something wrong. Either they're trying to cover up defects, or they're unresponsive to customers or everything they make is crap.

    Why is it that when the same exact thing happens with Apple suddenly the apologists come out of the woodwork. The defect isn't Apple's fault first of all, and when Apple finally gets around to acknowledging the problem and recalls the product people insist that it proves they care about the customer.

    Dell laptops come with defective Sony batteries: Dell is crap.
    Apple laptops come with defective Sony batteries: It's all Sony's fault.

    Dell recalls batteries: Dell would never have initiated the recall if it hadn't been for bloggers.
    Apple recalls batteries: Behold Apple's benevolence.

  8. Re:This is a good thing. by fimbulvetr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The television and newspaper give you the news. On the internet, you go get the news. Big difference.

  9. Re:This is a good thing. by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I watch my non techie friends and peers as they purchase IT equipment. The process is
    1. Watch TV add for local PC super store
    2. Buy one, maybe two, magazines called something like PC Weekly but decide that they can't understand the jargon
    3. Go down to PC superstore and buy whatever it is the salesman is pitching
    4. Approach techie friend to sort out the mess
    I'll admit that the techie friend is likely to be more aware of Dell's batery problems as he saw the picture when it was e-mailed around, but, as you can see, in my experience they only come and ask after they've handed over the big bucks. In this common (?) scenario the influence of the TV is far higher than the influence of the internet. Maybe Joe Shmoe is more internet minded your side of the pond.
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