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Internet Not the Social Hinder it Was
imjustatomato writes "A 1998 study showed that the Internet causes declines in social relationships and isolation, similarly to how television causes social disengagement and bad moods. This is the 'Internet Paradox' because while the internet is heavily used for communication, it makes people lonelier. However, a more recent study shows that now the internet has a positive effect on social and psychological well-being. This is even more so for those who have more social support and are extroverted in nature. Interestingly, frequent Internet use is associated with a decline in local knowledge and interest in living in the local area."
I find the bit about less local interest interesting as I know that I had little desire to leave Tennessee until I began surfing the internet regularly, meeting people from other places and reading about them on online news sites. Indeed, the first time I truly wanted to leave my state came when I 'dated' a girl online. . . and it's thanks to internet research that I ended up here at Boston U. Naturally curious person enabled by the net, or innocent Southern boy corrupted by the tubes'o'satan?
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I was painfully shy as a teenager. Was terrified of approaching people in general to talk to them and would avoid most social situations at all costs - I guess I had what psychologists would call a social anxiety disorder. I couldn't even post in an internet forum without the fear of humiliation.
Yet it was the internet where I dared post before I ever tried to contribute in such a way in a real life situations. The more I interacted online, the more comfortable (and confident) I felt doing the same in reallife to the point where I can approach strangers and start conversation.
*Shrugs* Maybe it was the internet or just getting older, as I realize this process happens to a lot of people who were extremely shy/self-conscious as teenagers. But there is no comparing the internet to TV, the TV is a passive medium, the internet is interactive. The only danger I see is when people start substituting the internet for real life.
This is very true, and still true amongst non-Internet users as well. I have had some funny looks from luddites in the past when refering to Internet friends (though more often than not they are more sincerely curious about how one goes about making friends on the Internet)
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Quite the opposite. You can learn a great deal from staring at that "box" in your room. Those people at the City Hall (or bar, or restaurant, or whatever fictional place people need to "get outside and go to") wouldn't be able to tell you about the current situation on definition of planets, or the state of affairs in Israel/Lebanon.
Those people are too busy superficially socializing and killing brain cells to drown out the idea that there's something more to life than what other people's preconceived notions are.
Then again, staring at this box has taught me one extremely valuable lesson - people will say anything, even if it is meaningless, in order to get a first post (and the inevitable mod points following it).
>> 1) the internet population has grown to include almost everyone.
I would even dare to say it includes more than "everyone". For many people with disabilities it opened a complete new world. I know several people with severe anxieties who now have a social live because of internet fora, msn, social networks like Hyves, etc. In "normal", everyday live, you don't see these people (outdoors, at work, etc), and therefor many people don't know that they exist.
Whilst I'm often 'accused' of living a solitary and isolated life, spending much of my time at home watching TV or chatting/surfing on the Internet or playing online games, I certainly don't feel that it has isolated me OR caused me to suffer from disengagement or bad moods. Quite the contrary infact. I've made many online 'friends' and when I was 'suffering' from mild depressive periods last year, it had nothing to do with with using the Internet and, infact, that combined with me taking up a voluntary position with a local timber recycling community project, helped me 'snap out of it.' Watching comedies on television makes me laugh and cheers me up; documentaries enlighten, educate and informs me; soaps are great entertainment and escapism (yeah I know many folk will disagree but that's me. :)) and so on.
"... while the internet is heavily used for communication, it makes people lonelier."
Certainly not in my case. Infact it helped a lot having people to interact/chat with and talking to people I would not, without the Internet, have 'met' or got to know.
"However, a more recent study shows that now the internet has a positive effect on social and psychological well-being."
Now THIS I agree with totally. It most certainly has.
"Interestingly, frequent Internet use is associated with a decline in local knowledge and interest in living in the local area."
I wonder how many people were 'surveyed' for these conclusions and results? I've been a frequent user of the Internet for many years, as I'm sure have many of 'you', and in the last year or two I've 'joined' the local resident's association, got involved in helping my local LDP (Liberal Democratic Party) councillors with mail drops in the local area as well as joining the local Community Guardian scheme. I love living in my local area which over recent years has become much more pleasant-a-place to live. Two or three years ago we had winos, prostitutes, drug users/sellers and so on frequenting the place and hassling the local people yet the police have done a wonderful job and now I wouldn't want to live anywhere else!
Surely I'm not the only one, am I?!
There's simply no basis for drawing conclusions here. while it's quite entertaining to talk about this, it would be a big mistake to actually think that either of these studies mean anything.
I'm pretty sure that if you did a few more studies, you could get some that confirm and some that refute the idea that internet use leads to/cure social isolation.
To quote a wise man:
"The only possible conclusion the social sciences can draw is: some do, some don't."
- Ernest Rutherford
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Did he specifically say he was unhappy, though?
Lack of physical interpersonal interaction doesn't necessarily lead to unhappiness, does it?
That's one thing I don't really get: the mentality some people have that the only way to make online friends, or to succeed in a MMO, or whatever, is dependent on pretending to be a horny female teenager.
Somehow it doesn't even add up. The most popular people I've met on MUDs and MMOs for example, were playing male characters, and were the people with a memorable personality one way or another. They might have been the guy who played for ever and knows every single secret lever, or the guy who was the most involved in the community, or the most helpful newbie-helper, or the most (nauseatingly) consistent full-time role-player, or in one case simply the biggest asshole on the MUD. (But always very careful to not break any rules, so the admins never could quite justify outright banning him, even if they were _very_ irritated by him too.) You'd be surprised at the number of fans one can have by simply being the biggest asshole and full-time ganker on the server.
But the opposite works just as well, and in fact much better when you're low level and in no position to be an asshole. You'd be surprised how many people will remember you just because you were nice, helpful, and able to function in a group. Heck, even just being the polite newbie who knows how to ask politely and doesn't try to sound like an "I have 7 level 60 characters, you noob, I just forgot where Stormwind is" clown, you'd be surprised how it does get enough people trying to help. Some of us actually _like_ babysitting a polite newbie. Remember to say "thanks" at the end, and you may well be on the way to making a friend.
If anyone finds it necessary to play the "I'm a cute, lonely 13 year old girl" card to get any "friends" or any online help, then I'd advise them to take a good look critical look at their own personality and approach to human relationships, because that's where the real problem lies.
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