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California Passes Wi-Fi Guidance Law

MrNonchalant writes, "California's legislature has passed a law requiring Wi-Fi device manufacturers to include warnings about security. From the article: 'From 1 October 2007, manufacturers must place warning labels on all equipment capable of receiving Wi-Fi signals, according to the new state law. These can take the form of box stickers, special notification in setup software, notification during the router setup, or through automatic securing of the connection. One warning sticker must be positioned so that it must be removed by a consumer before the product can be used.'"

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  1. Let's hope the "warnings" are well written by SachiCALaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A law like this is only as good as the warnings. If the warnings wind up being heavy on the legal boilerplate or tech jargon, not many of the people who really need them will be helped. But if they are written with the law's intended target in mind -- clueless Mom and Pop (or Ted Stevens) -- and use simple explanations and instructions for securing the WiFi connection, the law could be a good thing. That's said, I'm kind of pessimistic . . .

    1. Re:Let's hope the "warnings" are well written by elmarkitse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This post sounds a lot like the programmers who bitch incessantly about reasonably adept computer users who nevertheless use GUI's.

      "If someone really wants to use a computer they should at least be able to get in behind the little artsy GUI's and do something with the software, GUI's are for pansy's and if you can't code you lose the right to complain"

      Isn't there some responsiblity on the part of the manufacturers who are advertising to these ignorant mom and pops to educate them? Isn't it the responsiblity of software desginers to make their GUI's actually work?

      There's no correlation between not knowing how to enable WEP / WAP / etc on a wireless router and, for example, being able to survive as you put it. Where on Mazlow's hierarchy of human needs do we see the 'Good with tech gadgets' section? Conversely however, we do expect our corporations to be good citizens, and if they sell an ignorant end user something that doesn't secure itself and the customers data, shouldn't we place some blame on the company targeting people who aren't savvy enough to use their products?

  2. California by dch24 · · Score: 5, Funny

    California has more warning stickers than just about any other state. WARNING: This post may cause reproductive harm, as it has been used on a website where counter-reproductive agents known to the State of California exist.

    1. Re:California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't it funny how productive one can be when they're no longer worried that some corporation is poisoning them to make a quick buck?

    2. Re:California by inviolet · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Not to mention that [sticker-happy California] has one of the highest GDPs of any state and is the world's 7th largest economy in addition to being a leader in innovation. Too bad the rest of the states can't seem to learn from California's success.

      Correllation != causation.

      And another thing. The cost of warning stickers is inevitably reflected in the product's price. Therefore, the actual effect of this law is to force the consumer to purchase warning stickers that may or may not be necessary, useful, or effective.

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    3. Re:California by QuasiEvil · · Score: 4, Funny

      Personally, I can't wait for the day when they find that warning sticker glue is somehow very mildly carcinogenic. Then we'll get warning stickers on warning stickers on warning stickers on...

      I advocate we go down to a single warning sticker on everything - "Please know what the fuck you're doing, or else return this product."

    4. Re:California by soft_guy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Too bad the rest of the states can't seem to learn from California's success.

      Yeah, those idiots in Nevada should get a whole bunch of ocean coastline.

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    5. Re:California by evilviper · · Score: 3, Funny
      California has more warning stickers than just about any other state.

      Don't you hate it when there's a sticker or sign that warns you of life-threatening risks?

      I mean, sure, now I know that the wood sold by my local hardware store may cause cancer, but avoiding cancer surely isn't worth having to pull little stickers off of a small percentage of the things you buy.

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  3. Bad Idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I hope this doesn't lead to criminalizing open access points by brainwashing peole into thinking access points should be locked down and encrypted.. I provide free wireless to one of the coffee shops at the end of my block; and a friend of mine does to the other one. Of course our own computers are safely firealled off from the wireless access point which is in a sort of DMZ/outside our firewall.

    This idea that people should not share wireless (even when their ISP allows it) is just one more step in wrecking the freedom of the internet.

    1. Re:Bad Idea. by GalacticCmdr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually a better approach would be to completely lock down the access points that are sold. Then someone who wants to share can make the change to share. Those that simply want to plop down some wireless to connect their home laptop should have it easy. This makes this easy as a toaster for the technologically-challenged, but gives those that want to do something the ease to do it. What we currently have is crappy Windows-like security - what we want to get to is better BSD-style of security.

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  4. Freaking California by h_jurvanen · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder how many trees have been killed in the name of all those idiotic "This item contains substances known by the State of California to..." labels and stickers.

  5. Receive? by dougmc · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Lots of gear can `receive' WiFI signals. I've got a cordless phone that uses 2.4 GHz -- it cannot decode WiFi signals, but it certainly can receive the signal. Same goes for a little low power video receiver I've got -- WiFi looks like noise on the screen, but it's clearly receiving the signal. `Receive' certainly is not the proper word.


    The law seems like a good idea (or at least the idea is good, even if the fact that it's a law really isn't good), but having laws regarding technology made by people who don't really know the technology involved seems like a bad idea.

  6. Manufacturers can solve this problem easily by thesandbender · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Telling people how to do it is not going to solve the problem. When I headed up the IT department for my old company I established a program where people could fedex in their routers and we would secure them and fedex them back... at no cost to them (I successfully argued that the cost of next day air was less than the cost of a potential breach). One person out of a company of 300 took advantage of it. As much as I hate big government/big brother there are times when you have to overcome apathy but legislation. It sucks but it's true... and there is a simple solution to this problem. Almost every piece of commercial software you buy today includes a key that is, for practical purposes, unique. The technology to create, assign and distribute these keys exists and can be done at a price point low enough to pass on to the consumer without them caring (e.g. $5 a router, most of which pays for support and not the actual technology to do it). The legislation should not mandate that users are told *how* to secure the router. It should mandate that the routers are *shipped* secured, with a pseudo-random key pre-program and stuck on the outside of the router with a label. Just like the keys you get if you buy Windows. The problem is the support costs... but good documentation can take care of must of that, along with a little $ tacked onto the cost of the router.

    1. Re:Manufacturers can solve this problem easily by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mod Parent Up.

      Just shipping all routers with a pseudo-random long WPA-PSK pre-loaded into each router and a sticker in the user guide telling what the PSK is will go a long way to securing routers.

      Anyone who wants to change from WPA-PSK to something else should have the experience to understand the implications of doing that, and if they don't then well... let them suffer the consequences of their actions.

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  7. Re:Receive? No! by SmoothTom · · Score: 4, Informative
    As you said,
    ...having laws regarding technology made by people who don't really know the technology involved seems like a bad idea.
    From the ariicle:
    'From 1 October 2007, manufacturers must place warning labels on all equipment capable of receiving Wi-Fi signals, according to the new state law.'
    This also shows how having articles made by people who don't really know the technology involved seems like a bad idea.

    The actual law (link to the law text attached to the article) this has no statement that even hints at that. Instead, it clearly and plainly defines those items that will require the warning, and those definitions are not only correct, but quite adequate.

    Nice to know that the writers of the law did a better job than the writers of the article.

    Also nice to know that my little 'Canary' WiFi detector will continue to be quite legit, and not covered by the law, at all.

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  8. Sticker ideas... by Saeger · · Score: 3, Funny
    Let us count thee ways that a notification sticker MUST be removed before the router can be used:
    1. Print a EULA on the sticker that reads: "By removing (or even not removing) this sticker, you agree to provide your neighbors with free wifi because you're a nice person; not because you're stupid."
    2. Make the sticker conductive and place it over a waste-of-money-one-time-use-short-circuit.
    3. Make it from a faraday cage-type material that's in the shape of a tube and initially installed over the antenna; market it as a security feature for tinfoil hat wearers.
    4. or... the boring alternative: place it over the DC power input and ethernet ports (if any)

    My money's on #1. :)
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  9. Warning: This Router May Contain Peanuts by CheeseburgerBrown · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is a good thing. This law is not intended to protect the consumer -- it is intended to arm mild-mannered nerds such has ourselves when confronting people who claim nobody ever told them open meant open.

    It is, in short, a reasonable excuse to handle oopsy-daisy! security victims with a socially acceptible level of contempt. "You say you just tore the sticker off without even reading it, ha? Well. Well, well, well."

    This empowers geeks. It is a license to be snooty.

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  11. Re:Ignorance by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually these stickers will be re-peeled.

    (Sorry.)

  12. Best Warning Label Evar by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 3, Funny

    WARNING: California contains people and ideas known to the State of Oregon to cause extreme stupidity, indecisiveness, selfishness and the inability to accept consequences for your own actions. Contact with California and it's inhabitants should be limited or eliminated if at all possible.

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