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Original Star Wars on DVD... Sorta

An anonymous reader writes "The Original Star Wars is available on DVD. Sure it's more moola in Lucas's pocketsess (Gollum accent). But he did finally release the original version for a limited time. But which Original Star Wars, I bet Episode IV is in the opening titles. " Also apparently the original versions are basically non-anamorphic transfers from the laser discs. So basically, they look terrible.

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  1. Will we ever get what we really want? by Cerberus7 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Honestly? Will the original Trilogy ever be released in a non-craptastic form? Perhaps we will have to wait for the Blue-Ray HD-DVD battle to be resolved. This particular release leaves me feeling underwhelmed, and my pocketbook will stay closed.

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    1. Re:Will we ever get what we really want? by SamTheButcher · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I disagree. I think it's *exactly* what the fans asked for, and many people are getting caught up in the sour grapes of it.

      The saying is "Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it." People screamed when Greedo shot first. They hated the CGI Jabba and Han walking on his tail.

      Now, you get Han shooting first, you get no Jabba in EpIV, you get a straight transfer & Dolby 2.0.

      Lucas said he'd never give us the theatrical versions. Everyone screamed for it. He gave it to us. Whether he stuck it to us or not is debatable. But we got what we asked for, and he gets to say "See? I gave 'em what they wanted and they *still* complained!" He also gets to get the "theatrical version" monkey off his back, once and for all.

      Can't make everyone happy. These versions are out there, for better or worse. Enjoy, or don't, as you will.

    2. Re:Will we ever get what we really want? by SyncNine · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've got 3 DivX .AVI files that beg to differ.

      I, being one of the three people on the face of the planet to actually own a LaserDisc player, OWN the THX-Mastered LaserDisc release of the original trilogy. I have watched it many times and am fairly comfortable with its level of clarity and detail -- FOR A LASERDISC.

      To see Lucas claim that all of the originals are gone and all of the high-quality rips don't exist is bogus. A quick check on any torrent site or any movie release site shows that there have been several AC3 5.1 rips with DVD quality video of the ORIGINAL THX Remastered movie. Lord knows where they got the source, but in the grand scheme of things, it's better quality than the LaserDiscs I own. Not that I've downloaded them or anything, ever, because that would have been wrong.

      I guess what I'm saying is that if the internet community has a higher quality copy of the original trilogy than the original trilogy creator does .... Maybe it's time for George Lucas to admit that the trilogy belongs to the fans more than it belongs to him?

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  2. quality by mzs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My wife just bought these yesterday. She put in the original version of Jedi for my daughter. A bit later my daughter came to my wife saying that something did not look right. Then my wife put in the new version, no complaints. I am hoping that it was something simple like the aspect ratio was not right on the TV, but if not it does not bode well if a 4 year old complains about the picture.

    When I came home from work, I noticed that the new version was very dark. I turned-up the brightness for the kids. I wish I knew why that was.

    How is the quality of the bootleg DVD rips of the original trilogy from LD? How does it compare to these? Wouldn't it be a shame if the bootlegs looked better. Anyway for me quality better than my old VHS versions will be acceptable, but why could it not have been at least an anamorphic rip of the original trilogy on these new discs?

  3. Open Source Special Pre-Special Edition? by nephridium · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With all the Star Wars fans out there and a growing number of Computer geeks, wouldn't it be possible to create an open source project that rebuilds the Star Wars movies part by part using CGI? Think about it - everyone could try to improve a part of the project; someone could model a Star Destroyer another one could work on the lighting of a particular scene etc. - and when enough people contribute the final result could even surpass the original. Until that point is reached though all are working towards one and the same goal (which is uncommon in huge open source projects) i.e. precisely recreating the movies.

    Stage 2 would be the creation of an HD version, stage 3 might even be a 3D-Version. Just imagine: the space battles of Ep. IV and VI in full 3D!

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  4. Re:The Defense of I, II & III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Now, name ONE SciFi movie that is named when it comes to numbering the greatest SciFi movies of all times that consists basically of a love story

    The Fifth Element

  5. Re:The Defense of I, II & III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Remember, the World's Leading Expert on mythology, Joseph Campbell (who, believe it or not, was famous *before* Bill Moyers "discovered" him) helped Lucas craft the outline of the story. The notion of the villian being the father of the youth on the noble quest is as old as mankind itself. I had heard that Lucas had a rough outline of the following two films just in case the first one proved successful, and that the second one was called Episode V because the whole thing was intented to embrace the storytelling style of movie serials. 1 through 3 weren't as good an epic narrative arc, almost certainly because Campbell was dead.

  6. Re:Originals probably still exist by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For those unaware, Robert Harrish is an EXTREMELY respected member of the home theatre community. This isn't just some hack with a blog. (Figured a bunch of lazy shites wouldn't read the wiki entry and then just dismiss the rest of what you said.)

    He's not the only person to mention prints and interpositives. Lucas is obviously full of shit, but doesn't have the balls to even come up with a convincing excuse. Instead they make up this bogus story about it all being destroyed. (Yeah, just like all those Doctor Who's the BBC destroyed... Oh wait, 50 of them have been found since) when really, the truth is "You'll be getting this crap non-anamorphic transfer from laserdisc because I'm can't be bothered to do any better, and I know you'll suck it up like a vacuum and still give me your money."

  7. Re:George Lucas' Fear of Failure by SpikeSpiff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is a strong parallel between DOOM 1 and Star Wars: technical innovation combined with pretty good storyline/gameplay = classic. And I think there is another parallel between DOOM III and Episode I. Impressive technology, but not revolutionary. And both are nearly pure technology demonstrations. That makes them not nearly good enough to be compared to the originals.

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  8. Re:Originals probably still exist by iluvcapra · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have one of these, as a matter of fact, purchased from the BFI's Museum of the Moving Image. It is not a "master", as it is quite evidently a positive, and it's 70mm wide, and Star Wars IV was shot Panavision and VistaVision, which are 35mm formats. 70mm prints are blow-ups made for special venues, particularly because they had very good sound for the time.

    The claim that he destroyed the originals in the process of creating the Special Editions is highly suspect, even if it is him saying it. The modern method for recutting/restoration is to ingest the print into a 4K telecine (that is, 4000 lines res) and work with the data files, and then burn it out to a print (4K exceeds film resolution handily.) However, this workflow was not very common at the time of the SE's, and it's possible he did the horrible thing of recutting the negative. When you cut negative, you have to scrape a frame of film on either side of the cut in order to get a hard splice (there are ways around this, but the 1-frame rule is a common method). So, if you cut the neg, you are destroying a frame of film every time you make a splice, thus your original cut is unrecoverable.

    However, as other threads point out, there are interpositives, and these are generally what DVDs and stuff are mastered from, and these are never cut into for any reason. However, Lucas can always elect to destroy these if he retains physical possession of them -- I'm not sure if the distributor (Fox) vaults them indefinitely or not; even if they did, Emperor George and his estate for a very long time to come are the only ones that can authorize a re-release based on them.

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