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DHS Publishes Report on Operation Cyberstorm

uniquebydegrees writes "InfoWorld reports that the Department of Homeland Security has released the findings of Operation Cyber Storm, a large-scale simulation of combined cyber-physical attacks on U.S. critical infrastructure. From the article: 'According to DHS, "observers noted that players had difficulty ascertaining what organizations and whom within those organizations to contact when there was no previously established relationship or pre-determined plans for response coordination and risk assessments/mitigation. There was a general recognition of the difficulties organizations faced when attempting to establish trust with unfamiliar organizations during time of crisis."'"

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  1. Translated from bureaucrat to English by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    Bureaucrat:

    > "observers noted that players had difficulty ascertaining what organizations and whom within those organizations to contact when there was no previously established relationship or pre-determined plans for response coordination and risk assessments/mitigation. There was a general recognition of the difficulties organizations faced when attempting to establish trust with unfamiliar organizations during time of crisis."

    English:

    "Situation Normal, All Fucked Up."

  2. Sounds Interesting by susano_otter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At least according to the blurb, it sounds like the organizations involved will probably be working on ways to communicate with each other better in times of crisis, probably by developing trust relationships ahead of time.

    Assuming that's the case, it's exactly the kind of improvements we should expect to see from government agencies: identifying weaknesses, and working to eliminate them.

    So, kudos to DHS, and may they successfully apply the lessons learned from this exercise.

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    1. Re:Sounds Interesting by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't want an effective Secret Police.

      It wasn't what the U.S. signed on for in 1776 or 1789.

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    2. Re:Sounds Interesting by susano_otter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, I think there's a lot of merit to the philosophy of "ineffective government". And it's definitely the case that the system of government we signed up for was designed to be as ineffective as possible without being completely useless.

      However, in so far as we have government at all, I would prefer that it was able to act effectively in times of crisis.

      I mean, think how much better off we'd be if FEMA, the State of Louisiana, and the City of New Orleans had thought to work out trust relationships and clear contingency plans and handoff of responsibilities, prior to the arrival of a giant fucking hurricane, yeah?

      Besides, America has probably the most un-secret "secret police" of any nation in the world (unprovable conspiracy theories aside).

      Also, the article isn't about the "secret police", but about the woefully feeble capabilities of government infrastructure agencies in general, to survive and recover from "cyber" attacks. You might want to save your "secret police" objections for an article about actual "secret police".

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    3. Re:Sounds Interesting by jamstar7 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Actually, I think there's a lot of merit to the philosophy of "ineffective government". And it's definitely the case that the system of government we signed up for was designed to be as ineffective as possible without being completely useless.

      I wholeheartedly agree. The Founders knew what they were talking about when they insisted on keeping the Federal government relatively weak and ineffective. They had a severe distrust of centralised power, and with good reason. They'd just won a revolution from a strong centralised government that ran roughshod over their rights. They believed the best solution to any problem was a local solution. FWIW, I tend to agree with them. The best information is on the spot, not X thousand miles away.

      However, in so far as we have government at all, I would prefer that it was able to act effectively in times of crisis.

      I mean, think how much better off we'd be if FEMA, the State of Louisiana, and the City of New Orleans had thought to work out trust relationships and clear contingency plans and handoff of responsibilities, prior to the arrival of a giant fucking hurricane, yeah?

      What's wrong with the local authorities, the people closest to the 'action' calling the shots? IMNSFBHO, when FEMA showed up, it should have been to check out the site, figure out the damage, and cut the check.

      Also, the article isn't about the "secret police", but about the woefully feeble capabilities of government infrastructure agencies in general, to survive and recover from "cyber" attacks. You might want to save your "secret police" objections for an article about actual "secret police".

      So the answer to a weak central facility is more centralisation? To me, this is a firm argument for decentralisation. Spread the pieces around and some of them will survive a hit. It makes the so-called 'Bad Guys' work harder for the same effect. And I'm all for making the 'Bad Guys' work for a living. Why centralise things and make it easier on them by giving them one big juicy target to hit?

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    4. Re:Sounds Interesting by jamstar7 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "What's wrong with the local authorities, the people closest to the 'action' calling the shots? "

      there are probably untrained to assertain a priority to recovery.

      This training only exists at a Federal level?

      You need experts. You also need the local politicians to scream, yell, point, and gather attention of the media and point out every single problem you run into to focus responisbility on FEMA.

      These experts only exist on a Federal level? And aren't a lot of our problems due to the tendency of everybody passing the buck up to the next level? If the local politicians are only there to scream, yell, point, and gather attention of the media and point out every single problem you run into to focus responisbility on FEMA, what are they in place for? Where does their responsibility end. Hell, where does their responsibility START??? Local problems need local solutions. What is so inherently difficult in understanding this? Whatever happened to the old fashioned American attitude of self-reliance?

      In New Orleans there wan't anyone on the ground capable to call the shots.

      In New Orleans, there wasn't anybody on the ground allowed to take responsibility and/or call the shots until FEMA showed up. Biggest problem is, what happens if your Federal visiting fireman who ride in from the sunset don't know their ass from a hole in the ground?

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  3. Re:Ah! I thought it meant... by legoburner · · Score: 2, Funny

    you forgot 'Needs more funding for conclusive results'. Go bureaucracy!

  4. Parsing error. Does not compute. by Kesch · · Score: 2, Interesting
    FTFA:
    As DHS points out, just by carrying off such a large scale private-public and multinational exercise creates allows the government to test policies, procedures and communications should an actual attack occur.


    This, combined with the submitter's bad line:
    a large-scale simulation of combined cyber-physical attacks on U.S. critical infrastructure


    Honestly, what's with all hyphenated oxymorons? Normally I'm not a Grammar Nazi, but it feels like the left-right side of my grammar center just got a swift kick in the nuts.

    Finally, I found it funny that at the bottom of TFA they had links such as "Digg this!"
    However, they also had a "Slashdot this!"

    To which I reply. "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means."
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  5. Shouldn't government agencies be a bit paranoid? by s20451 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We're all hopelessly paranoid, making trust impossible, and rigidly stratified, making flexible response or communication impossible, oh and so totally self-centered that the mere notion of cooperation causes outbreaks of hives

    Hello, FBI? Mid-level functionary from FEMA here. Nasty computer virus we're having, eh? Yeah, I haven't had power for a week either ... no, I can't get money out of the bank machine either. But the good news is that the price of bread is down to ten cigarettes here in Wichita ...

    Anyway, I know you've never heard of me, and have no way of verifying my identity. And I know we're in the middle of an unprecedented national crisis. But it would really help us out if you could forward all your operational plans and the locations of all your agents as soon as possible. You know, I really value your trust, flexibility, and co-operation on this one. 'Kay, thanks, bye.

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  6. I presume I wasn't the only one who misread... by the_tsi · · Score: 3, Funny

    "DHS Publishes Report on Operation Cybertron"

    The terrorists are after our energon cubes.

  7. How am I supposed to be surprised? by cultrhetor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The FBI can't even get a modern computer to the majority of it's employees. FEMA "misallocated" (read: got suckered out of mucho money) more money than Bill Gates can come up with. DOT engineers have to fill out fifteen forms to receive a box of pencils. The IRS has to rely on outside collection agencies to retrieve back taxes. Veterans' benefits have been slashed - by a government - which claims to support our troops - creating more disabled veterans because of a war we had no business fighting (Iraq). The federal deficit is in the trillions, yet we cut taxes. How the hell am I supposed to be surprised that they can't maintain computer system security?

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  8. So You're Saying It Was A ClusterFuck? by littlewink · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sometimes it helps to simplify.

  9. DHS Press Release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Link to the actual DHS press release: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=5431/

    1. Re:DHS Press Release by frdmfghtr · · Score: 2, Informative
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  10. Does this suprise anyone? by DocOmega · · Score: 2

    It is the nature of both military and government in general (esp. military) to operate under a chain of command. When this link is broken, no one is used to thinking for him/herself. When we teach "yes sir, no sir", we do a disservice to the critical thinking and independent decision making that would have helped out here.

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