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Gentoo Announces 'Seeds'

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the who-ever-heard-of-easy-to-install-gentoo dept.

rvale writes "Gentoo has announced a new project called Seeds. Aiming to provide out of the box images for various common tasks, it could be the answer to the common complaint that installing and customizing Gentoo takes too long. However, with other developers and Council members complaining that the project was improperly set up and those backing the project refusing to back off, lending weight to recent claims that Gentoo is suffering from management problems, will what could be a massive step forward degenerate into a repeat of the Sunrise disaster?"

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  1. Re:Yes, Gentoo is a mess by agaffney · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    Except that as another user noted above, there's a problem with the base install where PAM and shadow libraries conflict with each other (obviously there are packates from the stage tarball that depend on each?) and it was a problem in the 2006.0 release. Something like that should have been fixed for the 2006.1 release. I had a lot of "fun" getting around that problem (and a lot of wasted time!).
    There was no "conflict". At some point in the past, pam-login had been broken out from shadow, and then it was decided it should be put back in. There was a blocker put in the newer version of shadow (with pam-login rolled back in) so you wouldn't have pam-login and shadow providing the same files at the same time. Blockers are a normal part of using Portage. This "fun" you speak of was simple to get around:

    emerge -B shadow && emerge -C pam-login && emerge -1k shadow

    This was covered on the mailing lists, GWN, and forums. Don't blame Gentoo because you can't use the tools or read.

    I mean basically "out of the box", you've just finished the install and you reboot into your new gentoo system only to find a PITA of a problem the minute you go to install a package or set of packages that depends on Pam or shadow. I still have the 2005.whatever release still running on my main linux box because of this (I was smart and tried 2006.x on a different system first.)
    You mean you've never updated the box since you installed over a year ago? If you've updated world recently, congrats, you're running a 2006.x release on that box.