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Maryland Governor Wants Paper Ballots
supabeast! writes, "Fed up with all the problems in the state's electronic voting system, Maryland Governor Robert Erlich wants the state to scrap the entire system and return to paper ballots. He's threatened to call a special session of the legislature to change the law to allow paper ballots. What makes this particularly interesting is that Erlich is a Republican — the party often maligned for exploiting flaws in electronic systems — and his attempts to clean up Maryland's voting problems are being opposed by Democrats, the party that is usually complaining about electronic voting!"
Not a problem: Diebold will get into the pre-checked ballot printing business.
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I live in Maryland. We are historically a blue state.
The way politics works these days is as follows:
In the red states, the Republican party is crooked as hell.
In the blue states, the Democratic party is crooked as hell.
And for those of you voting for your "team" regardless of the actual issues and goals are doing the country just as large a disservice.
My work here is dung.
Thats why I hate politics. Bipartisanship causes one side to oppose the other simply because they are on the other side. I applaud a republican taking steps to get rid of electronic voting. Democrats are once again showing their incompetance. Instead of a steady effort to hold the current administration accountable for violating the law (according to the supreme court, no less), they are playing devils advocate or passing laws against violent video games. Since when was being a douche bag a requirment for holding office?
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What does it matter which party the politicians are in? They're the same party. You think Democrats wouldn't steal an election given the chance? You think a Republican won't pull a stunt like this to appear honest to get those last few votes to get him in office?
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I don't care which party he's in. As long as he's trying to get rid of electronic voting until such time that it can prove itself to be trustworthy, then he's doing the right thing.
This guy's the limit!
Thanks for showing your bias submitter. The story stood up on its own without you injecting partisan hackery into the summary. Enjoy the ensuing flamewar
and his attempts to clean up Maryland's voting problems are being opposed by Democrats, the party that is usually complaining about electronic voting!"
As a Maryland Democrat, I don't think you understand. We aren't the party that is usually complaining about electronic voting; we are the party that is usually complaining. PERIOD.
/I just calls 'em likes I sees 'em
//I complain about the ICC, too!
In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
It's pretty obvious that Erlich is taking advantage of the situation to turn it into a partisan issue by making the Democrats in charge of elections look bad, and to make himself look like a saint. The irony is that he previously poo-poo'd problems with Diebold machines in the Ohio 2004 presidential elections, while it was politically favorable for him to do so.
The intro slashdot blurb is also entirely misleading, because there's not a contingent of the Democratic Party against using paper ballots, in fact the article only mentions the two prominent Democratic members of the elections committee that are resisting, primarily because it's their own jobs that are being criticized by Erlich.
So make no mistake, this is ENTIRELY POLITICAL, Erlich is taking advantage of a political opportunity presented by the fuckups of two prominent Democrats, and trying to paint himself as pro-fair-elections and them as obstructionist in one sweep. Politically a smart thing to do, also somewhat misleading. Amazing to see how many slashdotters take politicians words at their face values.
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The USA should outsource their elections to India :).
Amen, Brother. They have turned politics into a sports show, pitting your favorite team against your favorite team's enemy. If you love the Browns, you hate the Steelers. That's just the way it is. You root for the Browns, or whoever is playing the Steelers. Life is great as long as the Browns win and the Steelers lose.
As long as politics are like that, life is simple. You don't have to look at the voting record, public statements, or platform of a candidate. You just have to know their color, red or blue or some color not red or blue. You don't have to weigh the actions of a politician, you just have to say we have to support him because he's our President (or governor, or police chief, or what-have-you).
Life is simple then. People like simple. It's all red or blue, no shades of purple.
A friend of mine (hi, Thor) is a republican. Except for that, he and I are very much the same. He's a good guy. He supports democracy, and constitutional freedom, and peace. He and I have the same ideals, we just have different thoughts on how best to achieve (or maintain) those ideals.
The blood in our veins is blue. The blood in our arteries is red. It's never as simple as one vs. the other, and I wish those in charge would stop exploiting the sports-mentality to distract us from domestic and international troubles.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
Actually, the current Mayor of Chicago is named Daley. You found his father who gave JFK Chicago in 1960 which some say is why JFK flew to Nixon rather than vice versa.
There was a question as to whether votes for Kerry were on machines before the polls opened in 2004. If you've been in this city you know that Unions only protect one ticket and either scare or beat up the other.
Philadelphia has a lot of things - a two party system isn't one of them.
What's most amusing about Democrat charges is that they try to blame Governor's or the Federal system whereas vote control occurs at the local level.
(And I won't even get into the NJSC replacing Torch with Lautenberg.)
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Imagine if this happened to a Democrat:
I, a Republican, was in the local county paper on Tuesday morning criticizing the County Auditor over all-mail voting. I was also a candidate in the primary, on the ballot (unopposed), that same day. But my name was actually hidden on the electronic voting machine ballot. You could not see my name to vote for me. And my name was the only one this happened to: me, the guy in the paper that day criticizing the Auditor.
If I were a Democrat and he a Republican, chances are, this would be front-page news everywhere. "Republicans manipulate voting machines to keep Democrat off ballot." But since I am a Republican and I realize it was probably merely an unfortunate coincidence, I just post about it, but don't make it into a big deal.
So excuse me for thinking that criticisms pointed at Republicans being the ones who manipulating elections, are a bunch of garbage; I see firsthand -- with all the problems in WA in 2000 and 2004, including the unreported ones -- that it's just not true.
There is simply no truth to the implications that Republicans manipulate elections more than Democrats (and I tend to believe it is the other way around, though since I have always lived in Democrat states -- CA, MA, WA -- that certainly colors my perspective). It's just that for whatever reasons, the stuff about Republicans gets more press, and less benefit-of-the-doubt.
The one out of power has fewer opportunities to cheat and doesn't have the power to rig the whole process.
Crooked elections perpetuate the rule of whoever's in charge.
One key virtue of democracy is that it allows throwing out incompetent, dishonest, or damaging rulers (if anyone cares) without blood in the street. Crooked elections hurt because they block the vital function of throwing the bums out and putting another set of bums in.
The only reason vote fraud looks like a Republican issue is that Republicans are in power. We'll have the same fight forever, be it Greens, the Reform Party, or the Natural Law Party in charge.
Actually you're both correct.
Most dictionaries haven't been updated since the International Astronomer's Union updated the definition in August. To malign did mean "to speak harmful untruths about; speak evil of; slander; defame" but now means, thanks to a last minute vote by a small group of angry astronomers, "To speak badly of, while clearing a path with one's own gravitas."
I hope this factoid, erm, sorry the term is now "Dwarf Fact", helps.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Service in legislatures should be just like jury duty. Every adult over 21 in each district should be registered in a database indexed by SocSecNo, and every two and six years some random person in each district is selected and made to go serve as Representative or Senator. Once their term is up, they are removed from the database for 12 years and aren't subject to being picked again during that time. We'll get losers that way, but we'll also get some smart people, none of whom will be able to keep their seats long enough to get burned out. No more politicking, no more election ads, no more parties. Lobbying will still go on, but make it illegal for someone who has served to lobby for the term immediately after their term is over.
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