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Jon Stewart to Save the Gamers?

Joystiq's political column, courtesy of GamePolitics, talks this week about the bad rep games and gamers get in the popular press. They ask the question: 'Who will save the gamers?' Their answer: Daily Show host Jon Stewart. From the article: "Pennsylvania's Joe Pitts, mocked by Stewart for saying that violent games might affect ghetto children differently from affluent kids, actually protested -- after his opponent in a tough election campaign exploited The Daily Show fiasco for political gain. And that's precisely why Jon Stewart could be the savior of games. People tune in. For many younger viewers, it's the only news program they watch. Stewart, and colleague Stephen Colbert are seen as smart, funny, credible and relentlessly sticking it to the man. Elected officials, on the other hand, can't afford to come off as bumbling, low-tech and clueless. Naturally, Stewart helps them do so on a nightly basis."

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  1. Answer: no by Pluvius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And that's precisely why Jon Stewart could be the savior of games. People tune in. For many younger viewers, it's the only news program they watch.

    This is what we on the Internets call "preaching to the choir."

    Rob

    1. Re:Answer: no by omeomi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For many younger viewers, it's the only news program they watch.

      Yes, it is the only "news" program I watch, however, I also read the newspaper and listen to National Public Radio daily. The rest of the news programs are generally filled with a bunch of sensationalist bullshit that I don't care about. Just because I don't watch the 5:00 news doesn't mean I'm less informed, and I'd have to say that most of the Daily Show watchers are also fairly well informed, otherwise they wouldn't understand the majority of the jokes.

    2. Re:Answer: no by c_forq · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I used to do that, but now I dropped NPR. I stick to The Daily Show, a local newspaper, and the internet now. I began to feel the spin on NPR and see the effect it was having on me, and decided I didn't like that. While I still give NPR credit for (in my experience) never engaging in sensationalism and hyperbole I feel it is loaded with spin.

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    3. Re:Answer: no by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >This is what we on the Internets call "preaching to the choir."

      Right. Here's how the evening 'news' breaks down. its like 22 minutes sans commercials. Its streetcrime and weather mostly. Whatever hotbutton political nonsense is going on with no real facts or commentary, just a watered down AP article with some local biases added. On occasion there's soft-news garbage like "IS THE DRY CLEANERS RIPPING YOU OFF" and "TERRORISTS IN THE KITCHEN WHAT YOU CAN DO AGAINST ROTTING MEATS." No international news unless theres a huge disaster somewhere.

      Watch the daily show, at least they go past the talking points.

      Watching tv for news is like riding a horse to work. With all the news sites and a even the old trusty newspaper you get a lot more information per minute than the 'evening news.' Its no surprise that younger people are tuning in mostly for entertainment. Hell, I know a guy who watches parts of the O'Reilly factor because it just cracks him up.

  2. This will only work if gamers get out and vote by gorehog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not much else to say really. If gamers go out and vote, and have a measurable effect, then yes, Stewart, Colbert, et al could be their spokespeople. Pot smokers too. Until they start voting no one will care what their spokespeople say.

    1. Re:This will only work if gamers get out and vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It doesn't matter if they vote. What real difference does it make if Jackass 1 or Jackass 2 gets elected? We need candidates that the gamers and pot smokers actually want to get elected. Maybe we should get them to RUN instead, and voting will soon follow.

  3. Re:It's comedy, not news by RonnyJ · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If young people still consider it news, then things are in really bad shape.

    Considering a great deal of America's news output... yes, things certainly are.

  4. Re:It's comedy, not news by Ptraci · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The sad thing is, Most shows that claim to be news shows aren't anymore. It's all horrific accidents and sensational crimes locally and fear and scandal mongering nationally, with very little international coverage outside of the daily bombing death toll in Baghdad. TV is way behind the internet for news these days, and it has always been way behind the newspapers.

  5. Re:It's comedy, not news by NoodleSlayer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    However unlike most "news" programs, which contain less and less real news each year, The Daily Show isn't afraid to air clips of politicians at their most embarassing, which for some of the congress critters like Alaskan Senator and General Dickhead Ted Stevens, is practically every single time they open their mouths.

    They also aren't afraid to put clips of what politicians are saying now and what they said two years ago contradicting themselves, unlike most "news" programs.

    So despite being a comedy show, The Daily Show has much more power to keep politicians on their toes then regular news programs because they don't have the taboos of regular news programs.

    I watch three TV Shows for my "television news," The Daily Show, The Colbert Report and The News Hour with Jim Lehrer. Any time I watch any other "news" program I find myself staring in disbelief at how far they have fallen.

  6. Opinion by nuggz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    A poorly informed opinion based on a soundbite is worse than no opinion at all.
    That's my opinion.

  7. Re:Answer yes by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Daily Show/ Colbert report is the news with humor on top.

    CNN/Fox News/etc is the news with fear, manipulation, marketing, and a lot of general bullshit on top.

    In the end you still get the same story, just different presentation. You also get a lot more news in 30 minutes of the dailyshow than you would 30 minutes of Fox News, where likely it would just be 30 minutes covering the same story.

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  8. Re:Answer yes by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Daily Show consistently makes people aware of what is currently going on in the news. There's no less news than on the other news shows. There really isn't.

    What there is less of is spin and propaganda from the talking heads. Where you'd get pro-Bush propaganda, you get some humour splashed in to break the tension so you don't explode when you see what's happening in the world.

    No, it's not the best source of news. But it's the best news source in America.

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  9. Re:Answer yes by Paradoks · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "0% informational" means that one would never learn anything useful from a program. Stating that the Daily Show is "0% informational" is about as fair as stating that Fox News is "100% right-wing slant".

    Both are quite obviously untrue if someone bothers to watch either the Daily Show or Fox News. Stating either shows a lack of perspective.

  10. Re:Answer yes by FurryFeet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a reporter. I know how The News are made. And believe me, they aren't "The News".

    If you want to be well informed, stick to printed press and maybe some of the very best networks --the BBC comes to mind. But your local news crews are assholes and their bosses are idiots. Believe me, I know plenty of them.

  11. Re:Answer yes by Jerf · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I don't live in the US, but even I can see that most news stations are firmly pro Bush. How else do you explain the free passes and non-quetsions that get askled of him.
    "Not being as hard on Bush as you think they should be" does not constitute "supporting Bush".

    Find me a Bush policy that the press actually supports, not just "doesn't bash on as much as you'd like".

    As was recently pointed out here in another context, the average story about even a Bush speech will be a couple of snippets from his speech, often out-of-context, frequently so much so that the putative quotes actually say something he didn't, and generally if I read the speech and read their summary, I feel they focused either on the weakest or least important point of the speech while simply ignoring the rest. I don't think this constitutes being "pro-Bush".

    As for not asking the hard questions, that's just because journalists aren't particularly capable of figuring out what the hard questions are. Also, given a choice between asking a hard question and getting their access potentially cut off, or just lobbing the soft question, they'll take the soft questions. (I select that example because it went all the way to the top.)