Slashdot Mirror


How Can I Build a Portable "Dead-Man's" Switch?

An anonymous reader asks: "I'm a widower caring for my very disabled child. I have family who check in on me often, but not reliably, and not every day. How can I rig up a 'dead-man's switch' that will alert family or emergency services should something happen to me, so that my child can be cared for? Her medical needs are significant enough that being alone for even an hour could be fatal for her. We do occasionally get out of the house, so a GPS type cellphone and a heart-rate monitor watch would seem to be the ticket, but how to link the two and get the desired dialing behaviour?"

44 of 169 comments (clear)

  1. Alive Heart Monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's this bluetooth enabled Alive Heart Monitor that apparently works with GPS, and with a PDA/smartphone or a server. You'd probably need to write (or hire someone to write) an application to use the data for the actual contacting other people in case of x part, but the hardware seems to exist for what you want to do.

    Have you considered a medic alert bracelet for the times when you're out? Or are you in remote, non-populated areas?

    1. Re:Alive Heart Monitor by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Finally!! The perfect weapon to stop mass zombification getting out of control.

      --
      May the Maths Be with you!
  2. try shopping by pizpot · · Score: 4, Informative

    May I suggest you visit a medical store? Get a device like those made for hospitals or old folks. Probably easier than posting to slashdot.

    1. Re:try shopping by honkycat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Based on the information we're given, I think the only compassionate answer is "don't do this yourself." If a person's life depends on the reliability of this solution, trying to come up with a clever hack is just plain irresponsible. In that case, you really need to buy a tested off-the-shelf solution.

    2. Re:try shopping by Jaruzel · · Score: 2

      C'mon, they've made the effort to post to slashdot*, it's assumed they've exhaused all other avenues.

      -Jar.

      *Because we all know how easy it is to get a submission accepted. ;)

      --
      Together, We Can Make Slashdot Better. I Do NOT Mod ACs. - Check Me Out
    3. Re:try shopping by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Informative

      Shopping's a good idea, but a better product would be one of the Automated Lone Worker Protection systems (http://www.3wac.com/english/index.html) or perhaps one of the firefighter/rescuer's Man Down alert tools.

      --
      "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
  3. Bad Do-It-Yourself Idea by SirLoadALot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If we are talking about a serious system here, you aren't going to be able to do this yourself. Just for starters, think about how complicated this would be if you decide to have a shower. You will have to deactivate the whole shooting match and then get it all back up and running again afterwards. Of course, if you slip in the shower, you're screwed. There are already solutions out there that you can sign up for. One that I have seen is a pendant you wear around your neck that has a button on it. One push, and your relatives are notified by phone. Or, fail to push the button on a regular basis and a phone call comes from the monitoring service, who can also dispatch 911, etc. Finally, at the risk of being harsh, if you truly believe you may die suddenly with no notice at any time, you seriously need to reconsider your current care arrangements. You do not strike me as qualifying to care for some with the needs you imply in your question. Please take this as honest advice, not a flame.

    1. Re:Bad Do-It-Yourself Idea by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do not strike me as qualifying to care for some with the needs you imply in your question. Please take this as honest advice, not a flame.

      As hard as this might be for submitter to admit, I have to agree. Around the clock care, be it in the home from a nursing service or in a residential facility can be expensive, but there may be a sliding scale available via some organizations according to need. Chances are that there is an organization that caters to the submitters daughter's specific condition or circumstance.

      This is too important to trust to a Rube Goldberg contraption that one of us dingbats on Slashdot recommended.

      --
      Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
    2. Re:Bad Do-It-Yourself Idea by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Insightful

      However peculiar the question, the answer is obviously more of the order of the possibly blunt 'go shopping' type than this crass and insensitive response.

      Giving the submitter a shopping list and ignoring the ramifications of what he is attempting to do does him no favors. If the submitter is sincere, he has been widowed and has 100% of the extremely demanding burden of caring for a very disabled child. I feel for him and do not envy his position in the least. As heartbreaking as it is, he may need to make a difficult choice for the better of his child rather than rely on gadgetry to save his daughter's life.

      if you think the availability of an outside agency to help is all that is needed to solve his problem, you have no idea what his problem is.

      Unless the submitter's daughter suffers from a condition that nobody knows anything about but the submitter, then you'd have a point that submitter, and only submitter, can care for his child.

      Realistically speaking, a trained professional (or a team of them, in the case of round-the-clock care or residential facilty) can better handle the situation.

      Think about it: if the situation is so dire and delicate that even an hour missed can kill the child, then single-parent caregiver scenario is either going to end in one of two ways: the inadvertent death of the child at worst or the burnout and breakdown of submitter, at best.

      --
      Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
  4. Cell Phone, for now... by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 4, Informative

    Being disabled and prone to dangerous falls myself, I know this sentiment all to well. Needless to say, I've had difficulty finding something that would not only work within my home, but anywhere I go, without needing to carry a full-blown cell-phone.

    Something like a human-based form of OnStar, but with a heart/lung monitor and an accelerometer/impact sensor (to detect the speed and severity of a fall).

    --


    8==8 Bones 8==8
    1. Re:Cell Phone, for now... by RevAaron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Carrying a full-blown cell phone is precisely what this bloke seems to expect- if you've found solutions that include that, perhaps you could share?

      Frankly, the poster's situation sounds serious enough that a $20/month cell phone bill is the least of his worries.

      --

      Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
    2. Re:Cell Phone, for now... by RevAaron · · Score: 2, Informative

      One other little note- OnStar uses a cell phone. One of the reasons you pay monthly to use it.

      --

      Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
  5. Re:Homeland Security by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are you advocating peace through censorship? Do you honestly believe that is workable?

    Our species survives because most of us are decent. The day that ceases to be true this little experiment called "Man" is over. No "Loose lips sink ships" jibber-jabber is going to prevent that.

    -Peter

  6. Professional by TLouden · · Score: 3, Informative

    My aunt uses a device which is medically implanted by her heart. If her heart stops is defibs and logs a report. The same device can be modified to make a phone call and pass along GPS coordinates. Problem is, this requires surgery so it is not a DIY project. It is a nice solution though and water proof too. Talk to your doctor.

    --
    -Tim Louden
    1. Re:Professional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Problem is, this requires surgery so it is not a DIY project

      Pussy

    2. Re:Professional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, DIY surgery is illegal in most cases, even if the other person were to have written something beforehand saying that he/she consents to whatever you're going to do. Ethically, one shall have full rights to one's own body, and if one wants one's friend to implant something, that should be fine, but, the medical profession and Law see it otherwise, and a State may incarcerate an individual for performing surgery on him/herself. You may think that you own your body, but as soon as you try to do certain things, you are deemed criminally insane; from that, I must conclude that I do not have legal possession of myself.

      Piercing your own ear, stitching up your own wound, freezing a wart off by yourself, body modification, scarification.... these are all examples of structural alterations to living tissue: self-surgery.

      I'm curious as to the statistic of self-injury as emotional behavior among the slashdot population. Would anyone care to volunteer stories or opinions, along any line of thought stemming from said notion?

    3. Re:Professional by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 4, Funny
      If her heart stops is defibs and logs a report
      Wow, that'd be a freaky log file:

      [24-SEP-2006 16:44:52] Fibrilation detect
      [24-SEP-2006 16:44:56] Fuxx0r3d
      [24-SEP-2006 16:44:56] Defibrilation start
      [24-SEP-2006 16:44:56] Defibrilation complete
      [24-SEP-2006 16:45:01] SYSTEM RESTARTED AT 16:45:01 ON 24-SEP-2006

      --
      Just junk food for thought...
    4. Re:Professional by camperdave · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Don't worry, you won't get sick. I could cut open your chest and sow a dead Cat inside and you wouldn't get an infection. Not with the ammount of antibiotics I'll be shooting into you."

      --
      When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
    5. Re:Professional by NoseBag · · Score: 4, Funny

      Problem is, this requires surgery so it is not a DIY project.

      Uh-oh.

      Now you tell me.

      --
      Cloned foods give the statement "We had that last week!" a whole new meaning.
  7. bash.org is way ahead of you by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Funny
  8. Large, gaping holes can be quite an indicator by jx100 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Upon reading just the title, that actually *was* what passed through my head, followed by trying to come up with what could be a legitimate use for such a switch.

    I'd consider this to be either a legitimate question, or a fake one well crafted. It occurs to me that a suicide bomber really wouldn't have the need for GPS anywhere in this system, as the location of someone who has just blown himself up is really rather apparent.

    1. Re:Large, gaping holes can be quite an indicator by orasio · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Obviously, there is a way to use everything to kill people.
      The issue is that slashdot posts are not the output of the brightest minds in the world, just the average knowledge of an engineer. And most people who want to kill others in big quantities, can hire an engineer, or have on of them in their organization.
      I think we should safely think that /. is not the place where someone would go for advice when trying to kill other people. It's too easily traceable, and might warn the victims, without providing anything special that couldn't be aquired through a more traditional channel.

  9. The Japanese have done this. by sakusha · · Score: 5, Informative

    I saw an interesting article in a Japanese newspaper, it relies upon a relatively unique cultural circumstance, but I think you'll be inspired to think of how it can be adapted. The device was invented for one guy's family, but after it got some writeups in the newspapers, the idea was so popular that it went into production, and now lots of people have them.

    There are many elderly Japanese people who live alone, some are deaf and can't use the phone, etc. so it's hard to get a way to check in on them to see if they're still alive. But almost every home has a hot-pot, an insulated pot with an electric heater used to keep water near the boiling point, to make tea every day. So some clever guy put a sensor in the hot-pot, if nobody picks it up within a day, it phones a preprogrammed number to alert someone to check in on them. Yeah, these people drink a lot of tea, it was the only thing they could think of that elderly people did EVERY day.

    Of course this only checks in once a day, but you could probably think of other ways to adapt this idea.

    1. Re:The Japanese have done this. by east+coast · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm a beer drinker you insensitive clod!

      --
      Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
    2. Re:The Japanese have done this. by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm, you could look at the water meter, and if they haven't used any water in a day, as long as they don't have any automatic waterering devices or leaking toilets, it would tell them that there was a problem. The automatic devices and leaks could probably be detected and compensated for with fuzzy logic. Apartments without water meters would have to have one installed, not a real big problem.

      --
      All ideas^H^H^H^H^Hprocesses in this post are Patent Pending. (as well as the process of patenting all postings)
    3. Re:The Japanese have done this. by ForestGrump · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually it's already in use, but instead of putting the trigger on a hot water pot, it's put on the refrigerator in reitrement castles.

      The idea is that when you get up in the morning, you'll go to the fridge for food. If nobody opens the fridge beyond a certain time, then an alert goes off so somoene checks on the resident.

      --
      Is it true that more people vote for the winner of American Idol, than vote for the president? -Ali G.
    4. Re:The Japanese have done this. by Trogre · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dead-mans switch on the toilet flusher? Surely most elderly people would use this every day (and night).

      --
      "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
  10. Ya see... by CODiNE · · Score: 3, Funny

    My usual "dead man's switch" is a live grenade... however it probably wouldn't fit your situation very well. Nevermind. Good for hostage situations and job interviews though.

    --
    Cwm, fjord-bank glyphs vext quiz
    1. Re:Ya see... by CODiNE · · Score: 2, Funny

      I forgot to mention blind dates... good for those too.

      --
      Cwm, fjord-bank glyphs vext quiz
  11. possible kids/emergency - use phones... by Sam+Nitzberg · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is not everything, but this type of phone might help-
    It is normally meant for kids, but it has reduced number of buttons, and a dedicated emergency button...

    http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controlle r?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedP honeId=2060
    from the site-
    Migo from Verizon Wireless is a kid-friendly wireless phone that lets parents and kids stay in touch. It's fun for them, and added peace of mind for you. The Migo phone has a simplified keypad that allows you to program in 4 numbers, an incredible speakerphone and a dedicated emergency key. And with Chaperonesm, you can use your handset or PC to locate your child's Migo. This is the perfect phone to keep kids and parents connected.

    Note: I have no interests / investments / work relationship with verizon wireless.

  12. Some ideas by RobinH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't think you need a dead man switch. (I work with dead man's switches all the time in industrial robotics). What you could probably get away with is a vigilance control switch. From Wikipedia:

    Vigilance control, also called an alerter, is similar to a dead man's switch, the difference being that a vigilance control system requires that the operator press a button at specified regular intervals. If the operator fails to operate the vigilance control, a warning sounds, and should the driver still not operate the vigilance control the machinery will stop.

    I have one of these motorola pagers that my company gave me to carry around. It may only be available in Canada, but I'm sure you can find something similar in your area.

    At any rate, you can send a page to it with an email, and then you have the option to reply to the email with a canned response like "OK" or "Will call back soon", etc. I was thinking that you could write a script on a server that would kick off an email to your pager every 30 minutes and if it didn't see a response within 15 minutes, activate some kind of emergency routine like contacting a relative. The timing could be varied to your needs.

    It would be easier if you had something that hung around your neck, or a wristwatch that beeped every 15 minutes and required you to push a button to silence the alarm. Not silencing the alarm would somehow trigger your emergency routine. Using a windows mobile device or a blackberry (the API is available for free) you could write a program for one of these devices to do this task and send an email if you failed to respond.

    Of course, this only works during waking hours. I don't know if you hire someone to watch your child during the night while you're asleep or not.

    I ran across this article. I wonder if it has gone any further than that.

    Good luck with the search.

    --
    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
  13. If you can't afford anything else by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Buy a cell phone. Call your relatives every hour on the hour to chat about your cats (you do have cats don't you?). They'll hate you for it. (Don't worry, they're family.) They'll stop answering the phone. They'll talk about the old lady going senile. But if you ever miss a call, they'll be there in a heartbeat to find out what's wrong.

  14. Do not create your own! by blavallee · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your case seems too severe for this solution, and I DO NOT recommend you use it. Seek professional services and equipment.

    You could create a dead-man's switch using a computer with a voice modem and a GPS enabled cell phone. First, determine the longest amount of time the child could survive on her own. For my example I will use 18 hours.

    On the computer, you set a 12 hour countdown. At any time, you can reset the countdown. If you are going to jump in the shower, just reset it. Whenever the countdown reaches zero, the computer would produce an audible alarm.

    If the audible alarm is not acknowledged in something like 15 minutes, the computer sends a SMS or e-mail message to the cell phone. To acknowledge the message, just reply to the sender. That would reset the countdown.

    If the message to the cell phone is not acknowledged in an hour, the computer can lookup the GPS information on-line, determine if the phone was moving, call friends, neighbors, family, or even 911. You can use the voice modem to convert text to speech to broadcast a message and even the GPS coordinates to whoever the computer called.

    Note: If the computer is used to dial 911, make sure the emergency response center knows that you have automated a message and will be providing GPS information.

  15. Maybe you're approaching this wrong by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Interesting
    What you may want may not be a portable dead man's switch, and certainly not one that you need to die to triger. What might be a big help to you (and many other people) is software running on your computer that alerts people and does other things if you fail to check in on a regular basis.

    There is already one program that I know of that attempts to do this. It is called DMS, but I can not recommend it, it is very flawed. Among the issues I have with the program: It gives no warning before sending out the death notices that you program, no chance for the user to abort it. It will send out the notices and take other actions (such as deleting files) even if the computer has been down for a long time and then is rebooted (assuming that dms is in the start-up directory where it should be), such as caused by hardware failure or even extended power failure. And it needs manual attention to restart it's count down times, it doesn't recognize from keyboard or mouse activity that you are still alive and restart the countdown, so if you ever forget to reset the counter the messages go out with no warning and no chance to stop them.

    While the program is flawed, the concept is not. I keep hoping that I will find another version that addresses these problems and can be used for this purpose. I can see that this would be a big help to anyone concerned about the elderly living alone, anyone with a dependent child (or even a pet) who shares your concerns, and many other people.

    --
    I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
  16. Doctor. by daeg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Talk to your doctor. You do not want a DIY solution when someone's life depends on it.

    You may also want to look into a managed care facility. You may be able to get them to accept both you and your child so you could continue to care for the child.

  17. One has to ask... by csoto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if the dibility is such that life is at risk after one hour, why isn't the child in a care facility where they receive more than one person's care? Sometimes you think you're doing what's best for your children, but you're not.

    --
    There exists no way of exchanging information without making judgments. --Bene Gesserit Axiom
    1. Re:One has to ask... by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd mod you up for this (I have mod points), but I want to post on this and say that a close friend of mine went through the exact same thing when his wife passed away earlier this year. His severely disabled child needed almost constant care, and despite the pain it caused him when I said it to him (and the pain it caused when he did it), he checked his child into a managed care facility. He knew that without his wife's help, he wouldn't be able to effectively work for a living. Without working, the quality of life he and his son shared would have degraded to the point that he would no longer be able to care for his son effectively anyway.

      When I first said it to him over a drink shortly after the funeral, he didn't talk to me for almost 3 months. When he finally did call, he apologized and told me I had been right, and that putting his son in the care facility was the right thing to do.

      As it stands, he spends every weekend and most weeknights with his son, and their quality of life has never been better.

      Just food for thought.

  18. This would be easy... by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... if her medical needs weren't "significant enough that being alone for even an hour could be fatal for her." An hour is just too small of a window to accomplish anything useful without having so many false alarms that your family won't take the alerts seriously anymore. You really need to re-evaluate your living conditions.

  19. How old is your child? by vadim_t · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This seems to be a strange way to approach the problem. Your worry is that your child won't be able to live for long if you can't provide the proper care for her. Then, wouldn't it be better to give her a way of asking for care to be provided?

    Assuming she's old enough, and not severely mentally disabled, this would seem to be the better option. After all, you could be perfectly alive and still be in a situation where you can't get to her fast enough.

  20. Re:Yeah, I guess I should give up on this insulin. by Max+Threshold · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know I'm responding to a troll, but this brings up a serious point. Millions of people are walking around (and reproducing) who by all rights of nature should be dead. Are we weakening ourselves as a species? I think so...

  21. Asterisk can do awake time monitorring by Pitawg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I make heavy personal use of Asterisk PBX software. It allows my blacklisting unwanted calls. It also allows my own system of "follow-me" call forwarding to pass calls to my cell if the home extensions fail to answer.

    Scheduling a call with the cron daemon is pretty easy. A kind of wake up service is also fairly easy to setup. With a cordless phone for home use, this could call said extension at various times of the day. When you answer the call, you would have to press a number or something to confirm that you are fine. Failing to press the number, it could make second attempts in case there was just fumbling, like a followup call within a minute or two. Failing more than once, it could email people, send calls to people, play a recorded message for each call appropriate for the target of the "notification". With the use of a cell phone, it could even check on you when away from home since it could work like any automated phone call/customer service line. Besides having a phone ring to wake you up in the middle of the night, hampering your sleep, I do not know how much help it would be in the night time hours. The cordless phones out now could cover most of people's small yards as well. It can also be easy to "911" yourself carrying it around with you, and with a little more effort, when you call 911, it could make other calls automatcally for you. Think 911 with a custom menu for types of emergencies with phone and email notifications to work with.

    The mutltiple notice to people for multiple types of needs using multiple methods of communication could be of some help. Cell phone calls to my house, being identified as my cell phone via "caller id", I get prompted with a menu to allow me to cause things to happen, when any other call would ring the phones in the house. A cell phone speed dial could be setup to call home and cause functions to occur using said "menus" which are limited by what you can get a pc to execute. (email, phone call outbound recordings, serial cable control for some devices, IR controls of something near the computer with a TV universal remote function....)

    Some of these ideas could enable automated response testing, and easy one button emergency notification. The GPS portion could be handled by recorded messages from cell phone orginating "emergency button" to mention the cell phone number/carrier to emergency contacts for use in tracking. Not so automated in that respect, but seems to be a workable solution.

  22. Push a button every 108 minutes by stevef · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about setting up a computer that requires you to punch in a code and hit the "execute" button. You could have it set on a timer... say 108 minutes.

  23. Re:try shopping? by JumpingBull · · Score: 4, Informative

    Friends, lots of them.
    Seriously.
    If you have this load as a caregiver, just having people around, helping and having someone to kvetch with is not just a good idea, but critical, if only for your own emotional health.
    There are other people in the same boat, so perhaps finding or forming a community might be the way to go. Something less collective then a commune, but a structure like http://www.bruderhof.com/ (if christian). Equivalent communities exist in other religious traditions, as well as the religious (monks, nuns and others)associated with a belief structure.

    Technolocial measures sound neat, but they have so many points of failure compounded by the people that have to be around to insure that they don't fail, that I would be suspicious of the lot. Not that I feel that way, but I would adopt that attitude by policy.

    Consider the call clearing center that an alarm panel calls into: the UL standard calls for redundant systems that fail safe, two levels of backup power generation, duplicated sites, alarm receivers that fail busy so calls can get through, requirement for manual control, full data logging, crisis triage, etc.

    A full technology solution is suspect, a hybrid system is probably better, and you have the adventure of searching out the real players from the fakes. Look to the service providers that a hospital might use.
    And look carefully at response time: under disaster conditions it probably will swing out past your hour requirement.

    Oh, you have to concern yourself with the other side: Are your critical systems on backup power? UPS and autostart generators? Tested each week?
    There is a very good reason why the backup batteries in the telcos are usually glass lined lead-acid submarine batteries that (usually) power diesel boats. I don't think the cable co's are quite there yet. Just a guess.

    Feel free to email me if required - there are a lot of details I don't know, and a phone call might be needed.
    Don't be afraid of the complexity, a few minutes with some brainstorming buddies can cut that down to size. The legwork is a different story!
    Best of luck!

    --
    This is progress?
  24. Hacking a solution by danlyke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As others have noted, this is something crying out for a social solution, not a technological one, but I'll indulge the "build your own" technological fetish for a moment.

    Monitoring for falls uses off-the-shelf accelerometers. Another poster in this thread mentioned a BlueTooth enabled heart monitor, of which there appear to be several. The hard bit is notification.

    Take a look at the Telit GM682 for the cell phone portion of your control. You can get 'em in quantity one from Spark Fun, and probably other places. It's basically a cell phone with a serial port that takes AT style commands, and is great for mobile hacking applications. After that it's just a microcontroller or a Gumstix depending on where your power consumption, weight, and processing power curves meet.

    Given my experiences with cell phone coverage and reliability, I'd have your actual dead-man switch on your server somewhere, and have it trigger if it didn't get an "alive" signal from the device you carry every so often, because it sounds like you'd far rather trigger false positives than have a false negative.