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IBM Asks Court to Toss SCO's Entire Case

Lost+Found writes "After three and a half years of case proceedings, summary judgement motions have been submitted in the highly controversial SCO v. IBM case. SCOX shares took a loss of 18.75%, or $0.39, to close at $1.69. IBM shares rose 0.97%, a gain of $0.79, to close at $82.00. From the article: 'Both sides in SCO v. IBM have filed motions for summary judgment. To be precise, SCO has filed one for partial summary judgment and IBM has filed several motions for summary judgment, one for each of SCO's claims and two more for good measure on two of IBM's counterclaims. In other words, it is asking the court to throw out SCO's entire case, and to grant it judgment on two counterclaims without even going to trial on those two.' More motions for summary judgement from SCO against IBM counterclaims are currently being uncovered at Groklaw."

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  1. Don't get too excited. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think it's important not to get too worked up over this one. As much as I'd love to see the judge give SCO the legal equivalent of that old Mortal Kombat finishing move where the guy shoves his fist in through his enemy's sternum and rips out his spine, given the way this case has gone in the past I don't see it happening.

    Motions for summary judgement are just part of the process; both sides file 'em, even when it's ridiculous (as SCO's are), usually the judge ignores them both, and life moves on.

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    1. Re:Don't get too excited. by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Informative
      Motions for summary judgement are just part of the process; both sides file 'em, even when it's ridiculous (as SCO's are), usually the judge ignores them both, and life moves on.


      But, IBM has already filed for summary judgement once and, at that time, Hon. Dale Kimball hinted that IBM might consider filing such a motion later in the discovery phase. So that's what IBM's legal team is doing here... what they've already been asked to do. Chances are, Kimball is going to grant the summary judgement on this one.

      (IANAL)
  2. And the people said... by Gavin+Rogers · · Score: 2, Informative

    And the people said, "About time!!"

  3. Re:The meter continues to run .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    IBM hires outside counsel to do the litigating. The in house lawyers handle all the routine contracts, and things like that.

  4. Re:The meter continues to run .... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2, Informative

    SCO got a fixed upper limit agreed on their costs with the legal firm representing them, they dont have an 'unknown' bill as such.

  5. Re:The meter continues to run .... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Their "fixed" bill has come unfixed several times so far.

    Twice they've had to throw another $5 million into the kitty for "expenses, experts, etc."

    Its in their regulatory filings, along with "the future of the company is uncertain should we not prevail".

  6. Re:The meter continues to run .... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative
    IBM hires outside counsel to do the litigating. The in house lawyers handle all the routine contracts, and things like that.


    Ditto for SCO, and really for most companies in general. Even Microsoft hires outside attorneys for litigation; in fact, David Boies, who argued for Microsoft in the DOJ antitrust case is the lawyer who's spearheading SCO's case.
  7. Re:How far can IBM go? by RevMike · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is called Piercing the corporate veil. It is not easy, but not impossible either. If IBM was able to show that the major shareholders were using SCO as a sacrificial pawn to go after IBM, but prevent IBM from being able to collect damages, then IBM might be able to go after those shareholders directly.

    I don't think MSFT is a SCOX shareholder. I think MSFT "funded" SCOX by making some lame licensing deals. I wonder how creative IBM's lawyers are willing to be.

  8. Re:Highly controversial? by Bostik · · Score: 2, Informative

    Controversial? I thought everyone agreed that SCO didn't have a case.

    Exactly. I believe the only controversy has been whether this lawsuit should exist in the first place.

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  9. Let me link to an old Slashdot comment... by guruevi · · Score: 2, Informative
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  10. Re:Summary Judgement by archeopterix · · Score: 4, Informative
    What IBM should really do is formally offer SCO a settlement of One US Dollar. It would be One US Dollar more than SCO could ever hope to win with their baseless and time consuming lawsuit.
    Nope. IBM don't just want to fend off SCO. They want to crush them, and the future of Linux might not even be their #1 motivation. The fate of SCO will be like a giant poster: "That's what happens to you if you're dumb enough to mess with IBM". Such a chilling effect on future baseless lawsuits against IBM is something they just can't miss.
  11. The brand name UNIX is owned by The Open Group by Secrity · · Score: 2, Informative

    Although SCO wants people to believe that it owns UNIX, the actual UNIX name trademark is owned by The Open Group and it is not contested.

  12. Re:IIRC, Boies argued against Microsoft .... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yep. You're right. My bad. Boies argued for the DOJ.

  13. Value of SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Intresting things to note about SCO Currently:

    58 percent of the company is held by major owners and mutual funds.
    Ownership:
    DERBY, STEVEN About 10%
    LAMAR, STEVEN M About 10%
    BAYSTAR CAPITAL II LP about 8%
    Glenhill Advisors LLC 10.19%

    The firm is worth between 20 and 40 Million USD and has 14 million in cash
    but they go through 9 Million a Year.

    - mph

  14. The saddest of truths by Plutonite · · Score: 2, Informative

    Only people who believe in God have a real reason to get up in the morning.

    The rest of us are either in it for the money, or under the illusion that they are not.

  15. Re:Theory slain by facts, film at eleven. by GigsVT · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can't short a stock if you can't borrow some shares.

    Basically when you sell short, you are borrowing some shares from someone else, selling them right away, and promising to pay them back later on.

    If your broker can't find someone with a long position to "borrow" the shares from, they can't let you sell short.

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  16. Re:Summary Judgement by rkhalloran · · Score: 4, Informative

    If IBM chose to settle rather than litigate it through, it would likely encourage any other failing firms that had past dealings with IBM to try and salvage themselves by filing suit with the expectation of settlement money or acquisition. The legal expenses here to discourage others are no doubt much less than a series of 'payoffs' would be.

    In this case also, as much effort as IBM has placed behind Linux, they need to have it seen as free of any legal issues to be able to market it effectively. I suppose SCOX was assuming IBM would rather give them a quick payoff to 'go away' then slug it out in court.

  17. Re: Proof is not important. by ClosedSource · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can sue SCO for damages, you can't sue individual investors. That's exactly why companies incorporate.

  18. Re:The meter continues to run .... by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 2, Informative

    Heh. Back when I was doing time & billing software for law firms, Morrison & Forester was one of our best clients. One of my cow-orkers actually jumped ship to work for them. Nice place to work, from what I hear. One of my former roommates was some kind of administrative assistant at a smaller (well, most law firms are smaller than MoFo) firm got a Rolex "in appreciation" when she left to go back to school. I can't imagine what their employee bonus plan looked like...

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