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US–EU Flight Talks Collapse
fantomas writes, "The BBC is reporting that the current US-EU talks over data collected from people flying to the USA collapsed last night. US Customs and Border Protection is insisting on access to the airlines' records and 34 pieces of data to be collected from each passenger. This data has been gathered since 2004, but only as a temporary measure. The European Court of Justice threw out the temporary agreement and set a deadline of Sept. 30 to arrive at a new one. Airlines that refuse to hand over information to US authorities may be fined up to $6,000 per passenger, and the passengers themselves held up in immigration for hours. Good for the EU on protecting the privacy of their citizens? Or are they hindering the War on Terror?" An EU official said that the EU wanted to give away less data, while the US wanted more.
That's my point entirely. You have completely confused the symptom with the problem. The problem is that all your rights are gone. The symptom is that police can now demand ID. Another symptom would be that you have to answer their questions even when it's cold and rainy or if you were in a hurry. Just because one symptom occurs, does not mean the problem is occuring.
Producing ID on demand is also not inherently a civil liberty issue. It loses you some privacy, granted, but you don't lose any liberty. You can still do everything you wanted to do before the ID legislation.
You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.