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Slackware 11 Has Been Released
CCFreak2K writes "Slackware 11 has been officially released, just over a year after Slackware 10.2 became available. Software available with Slackware 11 includes KDE 3.5, Mozilla Seamonkey 1.0.5 and X11R6 6.9. As usual, ISOs are available through BitTorrent and FTPs, packages can be synced through FTPs, and you can always buy a copy."
long is Pat going to live before all hell breaks loose and Slackware becomes another Debian? Slackware is ancient enough already...
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Welcome to 1999 everyone!
I remember Slackware back in the day, apart from updated packages, has it got a decent official package manager yet?
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We strongly Urge TO ANY BSD PROJECT, morning. Now I have Its readers and of Walnut Creek, to haapen. My
Gentoo more so.
Cue uninformed trolls saying that watching gcc output scrolling doesn't teach you anything....
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That's great, and I look forward to seeing these VM improvements just as soon as I manage to boot a 2.6 kernel without it hard-freezing my computer.
There is nothing wrong with Slack or any of the other less friendly UNIX variants. What is wrong is people like you think that one size fits all. It's just like comparing an M-16 to an MP5: any kid can be taught in a half hour to effectively aim and use an M-16, but an MP5 requires experience and finesse but in many situations yields a much superior result.
And for a requisite ad-hom: you're probably the same type of candy-ass who can't change the oil in his car.
This is a joke. Learning curve is nil eh? Considering that humans use different strategies to learn based upon previous experience and that everybody will perceive the OS in their own context it just goes to show that you're a retard. It's never going to happen.
And instead of a perfect world, people who want to earn a living work in the real world. As a Solaris/Irix/BSD/Linux admin I call tell you that Slackware will help you to this end.
Ever since I said my honest opinion about slackware and asked why anyone would use it, albeit in a very non-compromising approach, my server logs has exploded with poor bruteforce attempts, even lamer SQL Injection attemps and generally weak kiddie action all over my server.
Even though I refrained from saying so directly in any of my other posts... Way to prove that Slackware is a immature platform with a immature userbase.
You guys can stop polluting my logs now. It's honestly getting boring.
Not Buzzword 2.0 compliant. Please speak english.
Does anyone still use Slackware? Or is it just released for nostalgic purposes?
Have you read my journal today?
I thought the developers were dying?
I watched him struggle building up his system from scratch, even though he began with stage 3. Than I had a good chance to compare portage with ports, and I was amazed at the primitive way it handles dependencies during package removal, and the miriad options you have to set to have a sane system (midnight-commander pulling in xorg by default??). A month later, he had everything up and running, by following the FAQs, wikies, howtos, etc. And he had still no idea what filesystem permissions are.
You don't learn anything by using gentoo. You basically follow - badly written - documentation, and you might think that oh, I'm sooo cool, I built something from scratch, I must be learning something, but in reality, you were blindly typing in commands without learning the basics behind those commands. My friend was clever enough to realize that despite "doing everything by hand" he didn't learn much about unix in general. Because the documentation sucks, and the whole concept of gentoo sucks, because it is misleading. It misleads people to think that the point of building from source is "optimization". On modern hardware, there is absolutely no reason to spend hours, days, weeks for "optimizing". There are very few packages that benefit from optimizations, and I expect a modern package/ports management system to take care of those packages, ie. I don't want to spend hours setting compiler flags, I want ports maintainers doing that for me. That's how it works in FreeBSD. You set -O (or -O2) in make.conf, and those packages that might benefit from further optimizations, automatically override these defaults, because the good folks at freebsd-ports tested them, and deemed them safe (example: mplayer/mencoder will be built with -O3 -ffast-math, etc... without you having to muck around config files).
Anyhow, the point is, you only learn if you want to learn, and if there is helpful documentation. Any distribution is good enough if you are motivated, and if it is properly documented. FreeBSD beats every single linux distro on the documentation front, but if you want to stick with linux, slackware is a much better choice than gentoo. Another good choice, probably even a better one for the Ubuntu user grand-grand parent is probably Archlinux, which comes as close as any distro to the simplicity of slackware (or FreeBSD for that matter) with nice package management, good documentation, and an opportunity to learn about unix like systems in general. FreeBSD is another good choice for noobs, because it is one of the easiest to learn unix like systems. Even if you want to learn linux, I still would recommend the FreeBSD handbook, because it is not just a howto, but it explains the concepts of unix in great detail. The unix basics chapter is a good introduction to anyone who wants to actually learn something (not just blindly following howtos and spend time on useless "optimizations" in gentoo).