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AI to Monitor Foreign Press for Threats

jefu writes "According to the New York Times, the US Department of Homeland Security is funding AI tools to monitor the foreign press in order to detect threats to the United States. While the article says there are restrictions on doing this kind of monitoring within the US, there are no restrictions on media outside the US. (No hint is given as to how this would apply to syndicated articles written in the US and published abroad.) This is as yet experimental."

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  1. Open Source Intelligence by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's wrong with using what is traditionally referred to as Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) against publicly available sources?

    This has been done for years, and is a time-honored and respected mechanism for gathering intelligence. What's wrong with then leveraging technology to more effectively search larger volumes of information and weed out individual pieces of information for further analysis, to identify trends, and so on?

    The Open Source Center, formerly the Foreign Broadcast Information Service, already does this with foreign broadcast media, and is able to collect and transcribe, on the fly, information from foreign radio and television broadcasts in a variety of languages and dialects with incredible accuracy, and then make the resultant material searchable. The new initiative would go one step further and apply artificial intelligence techniques to automated searching, that can more easily target and bring to light trends or time-critical information.

    Different business and governmental entities do this globally; it's traditionally referred to as "current awareness", and many academic and corporate entities offer current awareness services. All of these services will leverage technology, live realtime searching and alerting, and so on, to make the information more timely, valuable, and relevant.

    Remember, this is publicly available and published information.

    Also, submitter is a little misguided when he says "No hint is given as to how this would apply to syndicated articles written in the US and published abroad." That misunderstands the purpose of this; the program is designed to look at foreign media sources as one component of OSINT, because they are a a valuable source of such information, and can reflect local trends and patterns, and may reveal changing or growing (or waning) sentiments on particular topics on the part of a local populace or media outlet, or even a government in the case of state-controlled media. We generally don't get that kind of information from US-based media, and this has nothing to do with whether US-based media outlets publish abroad. It's already public information and has been published publicly. The restrictions are geared to prevent an appearance of overt US press monitoring.

    OSINT is a one-way source of intelligence information: from it, to the gathering entity. Any assumptions that the viewing of already-public information then implies that there will be a commensurate attempt to silence such information (especially when the information isn't under our control, and ignores the fact that we can't "silence" things like Iran's state media) both makes a a fallacious logical leap and grossly misunderstands the purpose and scope of OSINT.

    All the critics can say is that it's "creepy and Orwellian," but of course, there's nothing wrong with the government or its intelligence components reading, viewing, or collecting publicly available and indeed overtly publicly published information. The intelligence community gets ripped when it doesn't gather enough information, and will no doubt get ripped for gathering "too much" in a "creepy" way, even when it's from overtly and intentionally public sources, and especially if it uses technology to do it.

    There is a real concern about the growing use of automated and electronic intelligence gathering in lieu of human intelligence, but ultimately, both are valuable. Unfortunately, electronic and signals intelligence is often much more costly, and sometimes gets more attention in some parts of the intelligence community while human intelligence needs languish.

    1. Re:Open Source Intelligence by RobertB-DC · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a real concern about the growing use of automated and electronic intelligence gathering in lieu of human intelligence, but ultimately, both are valuable. Unfortunately, electronic and signals intelligence is often much more costly, and sometimes gets more attention in some parts of the intelligence community while human intelligence needs languish.

      Indeed. It's clear to me that the current administration has pretty much forgotten the importance of human intelligence, instead relying on high-tech gadgetry (and, of course, fear) to protect the nation.

      For yet another example of an utter failure of human intelligence, check this out: Report: Terrorists' mail not well monitored in US prisons. We can't even monitor the mail being sent to and from *convicted terrorists* because we don't have enough people who speak Arabic and other middle-eastern languages. Better to build a no-fly list so that Cat Stevens can't spread dissent, and depend on magical computers to keep us safe.

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    2. Re:Open Source Intelligence by Stanistani · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Anything that would get George Bush to actually read a newspaper would be a step forward.

    3. Re:Open Source Intelligence by jefu · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I'm the original poster and I'm not sure I see anything wrong with doing this since the information is public. I found the article interesting (if a bit skimpy). A number of questions came to mind, but I only included the one on syndication since the article specifically said that the US press would not be monitored and that foreign press would. If things are syndicated, how do you tell the difference?

      I didn't want to load the post with questions but I wondered in particular what natural language understanding techniques could provide that Google News (and other news aggregators) does not already provide - certainly the trending information available seems particularly interesting. I also wondered if the language understanding is really all that strong for other languages (including specifically Arabic since the lack of Arabic speakers has come up as newsworth a number of times) - especially in US universities. A deeper problem might be to distinguish between anti-american attitudes and anti-(american-president-and-administration)-attit udes. Finally, I found the mention that specific journalists attitudes might be tracked a bit troublesome - would this be used then to deny visas to journalists who consistently manifest anti-american(-president-and-administration)-attit udes.

    4. Re:Open Source Intelligence by LindseyJ · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Something to consider.
      I guess so. I mean, if you'd rather base your logic on ad hominim attacks instead of the truth. Then again, welcome to American politics.
  2. Obligatory by paranode · · Score: 2, Funny

    And so, SkyNet became self-aware and bombed al Jazeera and the New York Times.

    1. Re:Obligatory by tbone1 · · Score: 4, Funny
      And so, SkyNet became self-aware and bombed al Jazeera and the New York Times.

      Throw in Sam Donaldson and I'll hold its coat and applaud.

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  3. We keep adjusting it, Sir by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    According to the New York Times, the US Department of Homeland Security is funding AI tools to monitor the foreign press in order to detect threats to the United States.

    "We keep it, Sir, but it still comes up with the number one threat to the US is Donald Rumsfeld."

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  4. Issue with monitoring press? by patrixmyth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What issue would that be exactly? If media is releasing information, how can there be an issue with the government reading that information, parsing it rhought AI or lining bird cages with it for that matter? I could imagine there might be an issue with putting out false information to domestic press, ie PsyOps, but monitoring public source information seems very much a no-brainer.

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  5. Legality? by tbone1 · · Score: 4, Funny
    So let me get this straight: It's illegal to do, basically, a 'grep -i "Kill the infidel"' on newspaper articles that are freely available to every Tom, Dick, and Achmed around the world?

    Remember, when grep is outlawed, only outlaws will have grep

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    1. Re:Legality? by joe+155 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Firstly, the serious; how often have you known a government organisation (who would be the ones most interested in this) to obey the law when it comes to "saving the children from the evil terrorists"... if they weren't so close to the RIAA they could claim fair use anyway.

      Secondly; Remember, when grep is outlawed, only outlaws will have grep

      First they came for grep, but I did not speak out because I didn't use grep
      Then they came for egrep, but I did not speak out because I never look at extended regular expressions
      Then they came for fgrep, and there was no one left to speak out for me!... or the set of newline-separated strings

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  6. Dear GOD! The Americans are spying on us! by Shihar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Eh... is anyone REALLY woried about the US government reading press from around the world? I mean... once you sell something on the street or post it to the web you kind of assume that everyone can read it.

    I have a feeling that what this program really is doing is looking for "major events" as fast as possible. So, if a news agency reports in London that an airplane just blew up, an AI in the US shouts out a warning to its operator. This way, events that might signal something for the US worry about are brought to light within minutes instead of hours. In the case of an airplane blowing up in the UK, it might signal that a larger operation was on to blow up American airplanes as well. This way, you can start assessing the threat right away and decide if anything should be done.

    Such a program could also act as a political heads up. If a Pakistani papers is reporting that a coo is in progress, that is a damn nice thing to know ASAP so that you can decide how to deal with a nuclear armed nation with a collapsing government.

    I am sure that the US has piles of people already scanning newspapers from around the world, I imagine that this AI is simply an attempt to cut delays down from hours to minutes.

  7. Re:What about real terrorist threats? by thebdj · · Score: 2, Funny

    No...all those foreign papers have them...you know the personals for terrorists...

    SMET seeking like minded individuals for cave expeditions, vigorous exercise, and praying to Allah. Enjoys long nights plotting together and holding hostages.

    For those who missed it, Single Middle Eastern Terrorist (SMET).

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  8. Israel has this now. So does the CIA by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are several pro-Israel monitoring services watching the press - CAMERA in the US, BICOM in the UK, and MEMRI to monitor the Arab press. CAMERA is noted for having a good database of stories about Israel. Apparently stories mentioning Israel are found automatically, but evaluated by people.

    The CIA has something called the "Open Source Intelligence Service", which started as the "Foreign Broadcast Monitoring Service". Visualize some poor guy spending eight hours a day listening to Radio Albania, all through the Cold War. Most of the content is terminally boring, but then, one day the announcer says "so we're invading Yugoslavia", and the CIA needs to notice this. There have been repeated attempts to automate the job.

  9. Re:What about real terrorist threats? by thrillseeker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No but the domestic press is useless in this case. They have become a de facto public relations firm for the government.

    Yeah, but it's not their own government.

  10. They don't care ! by alexhs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why would the USA government bother to read the press when it is already writing it ? :P

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  11. Re:So, who is NOT for this? by Instine · · Score: 2, Funny

    Server 986762 has red flaggged the following sir. It's a little old but I think it may be highly relevent: Top Secret Report

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  12. CIA v. Homeland Security by geoff+lane · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't that exactly what the CIA was set up to do?

    I wonder if they are doing anything more than searching Google News each morning.

  13. Damn sans-serif fonts... by geobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

    The first thing I thought on reading this headline was "Who the hell is Al? You mean the sidekick from Home Improvement?"

    I guess he would occupy the flannel office.

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  14. It could pick up secret communication channels by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's better than just major events. You can apply stats to huge volumes of data, find all sorts of interesting correlations. Such as personals adverts to signal events, stock market rises/falls prior to terrorist events.

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  15. Outrageous Quote of the Day by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    While the article says there are restrictions on doing this kind of monitoring within the US, there are no restrictions on media outside the US.
    Nice. So we'll pay attention to 'restrictions' on monitoring our own internal media, while completely disregarding those that protect our private conversations? What a complete bunch of crap. So media is sacrosanct, but the citizen is not? (And to the first person to reply "well if you don't have anything to hide..." to me, may you roast for a very long time in a very warm corner of heck).

    Thanks again to the corporate-political machine for letting us know what utter and complete contempt you hold us in. And no, this isn't just a dig at Bush or his administration. It's direceted at each and every politician who's been bought and paid for by the corporate and special interest lobbies - in other words 95% of them.

    It is way, way past time for this to stop. And it is up to us to stop it.
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  16. Damn Good Thing... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That we have AIs that can reliably understand Arabic, Urdu, etc., because we sure don't have enough real people that can.

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  17. The holy grail of OSINT by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think it's a little more subtle than that.

    There is a theory, which I have heard articulated from time to time (although I don't know if there's a name for it or not) which says that right before a major event there is a lot of "chatter"; subtle yet distinct signs that something is about to happen, but which are too minor on their own to generate any attention. Once the event happens, in hindsight you can look back and recognize them. It's sort of a reverse butterfly-effect; the assumption is that no matter how good at being secretive you are, you will make some signs in the course of executing your plot, and some of those signs will percolate and be reported in papers somewhere. So you just need to know what to look for.

    So basically what you might do, is take a big pattern-matching AI system, and "teach" it using the media records preceding other big terrorist events. 9/11, London, Madrid, etc. You have it comb through all the world media before those events, and see if you can find patterns, the little things that in retrospect might have alerted you that something was up. Then, thus primed with information and hopefully some patterns, you set it loose on the real-time news feeds.

    In theory -- if the theory holds water, anyway -- the system might then be capable of giving you a warning of something big heading your way, picking up on stuff that a person might not recognize.

    Anyway, I'm not sure if that's the theory that this particular system is going to try and use, but it's one idea that I've heard described; sort of as the 'holy grail' of machine-derived OSINT. More likely, you'd end up with a system that just gives you statistical summaries of the number of anti-US editorials in various countries or something. Useful for the State Department perhaps, but I'm not sure for preventing the next 9/11.

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  18. Re:So, who is NOT for this? by xappax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that many people are hostile towards this kind of system not because of what it is (basically a computer indexed newsmedia database), but who has control over it - and more importantly, who doesn't.

    Imagine the web without search engines, just a bunch of sites connected by links. Then, imagine that the CIA created a massively expensive and elaborate project (call it project GOOGLE) to index, cache, and analyze all the content on the web, and make it searchable. Of course, project GOOGLE would be highly guarded and only government officials could use it, leaving everyone else to wonder uneasily what the government was learning about them through their database.

    That would be creepy, because it would mean the government would have an effectively God-like view of all activity on the web, while everyone else would be in the dark. Make such a project publically available and transparent (like the real Google), and it's accepted almost universally. Of course, you could argue that people should build their own AI-driven newsmedia uber-database, but the reality is that the US government is probably one of the few entities with the massive resources and will needed to create something like this, which means that by definition the rest of us will be left in the dark.

    In a nutshell, I think the crux of the issue is that folks don't trust the US government, so every time the government proposes a new way to expand their power, people immediately jump on the ways that it could be abused. This, I believe, is as it should be.

  19. Why ask anything if you are not willing to listen? by kop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would you ask an AI to look for threats if you are not even willing to listen to your close friends and allies?

    Read for instance this letter from the French Ambassador to the United States in 2003
    http://www.counterpunch.org/levitte02142003.html

    It clearly warns about the mess a war in Irak would get us all in to.
    It states that Iraq is not a threat and it predicts the rise in terrorism worldwide, the destabilisation of the region and the civil war in Irak that we see now.

    One month after this the whole "freedom fries" thing started.
    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/sprj.irq .fries/

    This AI will just add data to the heap that is allready ignored.

  20. Re:So, who is NOT for this? by morleron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I concur with your concerns over this technology. It seems to me that this could very easily be a beta-test for software that the government will then begin to use to search through the mass of information that that the NSA collects every day on millions of Americans. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned in this discussion is an old intelligence adage that goes basically like this, "You need to base your threat analyses on capabilities not intentions." So, from a threat to civil liberties viewpoint, this program represents a potential huge step forward in the ability of the U.S. Government to monitor the communications of its citizens and automatically flag anything that "looks like a threat". When one then adds the law that Congress just passed concerning who may be declared an "illegal enemy combatant" (which now includes U.S. citizens) our government now has the capability to monitor our email or other electronic communication, analyse it with software which no one will know anything about regarding false-positive rates, failure modes, etc., then use that analysis to declare a citizen to be a "threat" and thus an "illegal enemy combatant", then arrest that person, strip them of their civil liberties, and turn them over to the gentle care of military tribunals which may, at the discretion of the tribunal judge, allow the use of "coerced self-incriminatory testimony". Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this sounds an awful lot like Orwell's description of the the functions of the "Thought Police" in "1984".

    Just my $.02,
    Ron

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