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Gap Between Google and Competition Widening

eldavojohn writes "Business Week has up an article trying to explain why it is getting harder and harder to 'catch' Google in the search engine game. We've heard of many different kinds of search engines and many different companies entering the market but: '... Google keeps gaining share in the face of newly launched capabilities on other engines. In August, Google sites gained 6.8 percentage points of search share from a year earlier, according to researcher comScore Media Metrix. Meantime, Yahoo lost 1 percentage point, Microsoft's sites lost 3.3 percentage points, and Ask.com lost one-half of a percentage point.' All of this on the heels of recent news that A9 scaled back its features. Is it possible to think of a number better than a one with a hundred zeros behind it?"

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  1. Odd by pdbaby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's odd that people should say Google are widening the gap... Google's certainly the best, but lately I've been noticing a lot more search results that lead to pages that don't load, or result in 404s (in fact, a domain I used to run 3 years ago is still in Google's index).

    Is google not removing ages from their index to try and seem impressive, or getting lax with recrawling sites? Or am I the only one noticing this?

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    1. Re:Odd by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Noticed that too. Many 404s, outdated pages (which are USUALLY in the cache tho) or pages that have not a single reference to the search terms.
      Another truly annoying set of results are links to other SEARCH sites indexing some pages which may or not have anything to do with the search terms.

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  2. Ganz Scheiß by DerGeist · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is all very ironic nonsense; Google showed us just how easy it really is to catch up with "the big guy." Back when Yahoo and Altavista were king, Google overthrew those powerhouses like it was Superbowl III. The key was Google knew what people wanted, and gave it to them. Now, certainly, it doesn't seem like Google is going to forget that anytime soon, and no, it's also not likely at this point that a little guy could wipe out Google, but who knows?

    Look at the way great ideas have grown quickly: YouTube, digg, and so on.

    And you can bet that if someone came up with a radically new search algorithm that provided noticeably better search results than Google (which is actually falling a bit behind, which is a dangerous mistake...) you can believe that most people would quickly migrate to their new engine of choice. (Of course, if it had little to no ads, speedy and reliable service, etc...)

  3. Better search options by iangoldby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find that Google is becoming less and less useful.

    The web now has become so large that a simple keyword search just doesn't cut it anymore. Try searching for information about a popular digital camera from someone who isn't trying to sell them. It is next to impossible. (Yes I know about http://www.givemebackmygoogle.com/ - a good try, but not really addressing the fundamental problem.)

    The best way that search could get better in my opinion is to introduce some kind of filtering on the type of organisation that produces the pages you are searching for. Google already does a bit of this with Google Scholar. But we need something far more general, and more to the point, a facility for excluding results of particular types, e.g. blogs, sites trying to sell something, ...?

    I know that some people will complain that it may be a very subjective judgement whether site X is commercial or not. But search results are never going to be perfect anyway. Let's have the improvements where they are available, and worry about the corner cases later.

    1. Re:Better search options by kestasjk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      'digital camera -sale -site:.com'; just keep excluding results until you're left with what you want.

      The only way to get accurate, personalized results from a flexible search engine is to learn at least some basic query syntax. I don't want digitalcameras.google.com, laptops.google.com, anythingyoucanthinkof.google.com to walk me through making common searches, because it's more effective, flexible and easier to just add on a few extra clauses yourself.

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  4. I see no significant difference between Google by Krotos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and, say, Clusty.com, except that the latter doesn't collaborate with the Chinese Communist Party.

  5. Is it a case of "tall poppy syndrome"? by russ1337 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems that if you cant catch them, you take shots at them to change peoples view, or you try to change the rules to make it harder for them to succeed. We are seeing this with the threat of a non-neutral Internet where most proponents nearly always use Google as the example.

    I think the shots at Google are a little bit of 'tall poppy syndrome' kicking in. The only thing keeping Google from being resented is their 'humility' - that they aren't flaunting their position and their committed to 'not be evil' - like not handing the info to the NSA without a warrant like the 'others' did.

  6. Re:Time for some anti-trust! by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, successs and being the best isn't wrong. Using your success and money to oppress others through unethical business practices is. There is a huge difference. Staying on top because you have a great product is one thing. Staying on top because you can quash others unfairly is another.

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  7. They missed the boat. by Jartan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In general the main cause is the bigger search engines are still not even trying to copy the big selling points of google.

    Their front pages are still a big abortion of pictures and junk. Google is simple "box + logo".

    Their results are trying to coppy google but the no.1 thing the google results page sells is TRUST. Most people trust google that all adds are going to be labeled clearly and they will not be inserted into the results!

    MSN/Yahoo/etc already missed the boat on this issue. If anyone is going to compete with Google it's going to have to be someone new at this point probably. Unless of course someone thinks up a new must have feature.

  8. They appear to be addressing this piecemeal by fizbin · · Score: 3, Insightful
    For example, if you search google for the name of any common drug (even if you use the generic chemical name instead of the brand name), you'll get options immediately to narrow your results to a bunch of useful subcategories; for example I just did a search and got this before the rest of the results: (I've inserted brackets to show where the links are, or just do the search yourself)
    Refine results for Clonazepam:
    [Drug uses] [Interactions] [For patients] [From medical authorities]
    [Side effects] [Warnings/recalls] [For health professionals]
    Now, if they could extend this kind of categorization to consumer electronic devices, I think that would address your main concern.
  9. how much they've won by SethJohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful



    In the past six months, I've noticed two computer newb friends of mine doing the same exact thing-- When provided a URL for a website, they don't know they can type it into the browser's URL field. Instead, they use their bookmark for google (it's also set as their home page) and then type the URL into the google search field. In most instances, Google returns a link to the URL they have just typed.

    In the most recent instance, it didn't because it was a website I had just created for my friend. He told me on the phone that he couldn't find the website I had sent him the URL for. I knew the domain was propagated in DNS, so this sounded odd to me. Then when I visited him at his house, I saw him typing it into google instead of the browser's URL field and I had to explain that google didn't yet know about the website and that he needed to request it directly.

    The other guy opens his browser, which has google set as his home page, then he types "www.hotmail.com" into the search field so he can check his email.

    So, yeah, Google has established itself as a fundamental component of the internet for many, many people.

    Seth

  10. Re:Google is better than we think by m0llusk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That sounds like a kind of Silicon Valley syndrome. All of these things you say about cool stuff and the brightest minds have been true of the old Apple that nearly died, of Silicon Graphics which has finally died, of Sun which is floundering, and the list goes on. Data General anyone? WANG? On top of that they are now victims of their own success. Having acheived so much they are now in the position of being essentialy monopolistic thug capitalists. Other search engines and portals and ad services are not keeping up, so even without intention they become the New Microsoft. Google is a very strong company indeed, but in that market strength can ironically be a huge weakness and even the very strongest tend to last only so long before the entire market changes.