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Gap Between Google and Competition Widening

eldavojohn writes "Business Week has up an article trying to explain why it is getting harder and harder to 'catch' Google in the search engine game. We've heard of many different kinds of search engines and many different companies entering the market but: '... Google keeps gaining share in the face of newly launched capabilities on other engines. In August, Google sites gained 6.8 percentage points of search share from a year earlier, according to researcher comScore Media Metrix. Meantime, Yahoo lost 1 percentage point, Microsoft's sites lost 3.3 percentage points, and Ask.com lost one-half of a percentage point.' All of this on the heels of recent news that A9 scaled back its features. Is it possible to think of a number better than a one with a hundred zeros behind it?"

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  1. Yep. by tygerstripes · · Score: 5, Funny
    Is it possible to think of a number better than a one with a hundred zeros behind it?
    A google-and-one?

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    1. Re:Yep. by RancidMilk · · Score: 5, Funny

      That doesn't make one "bit" of difference... wait... or does it?

    2. Re:Yep. by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nigel: Well, it's one searchier, isn't it? It's not google. You see, most blokes, you know, will be searching at google. You're on google here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on google on your computer. Where can you go from there? Where?

      Marty: I don't know.

      Nigel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?

      Marty: Put it up to google plus one.

      Nigel: google puls one. Exactly. One louder.

    3. Re:Yep. by stunt_penguin · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm a fan of '3 ???' , as it always seems to lead to profit.

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  2. Um.. by Achra · · Score: 4, Informative

    A 1 with 100 zero's behind it is a Googol... As far as I know, a Google is a search engine.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googol
    http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Google_(company)

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  3. Even better! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Google-plex!

    1. Re:Even better! by itwerx · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mod parent up!
          A googol (correct spelling of the mathematical term) is a 1 with a hundred zeros, but a googol-plex is a 1 with a googol of zeros behind it! (Read the Wikipedia article on it, lots of cool factoids :).

  4. Odd by pdbaby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's odd that people should say Google are widening the gap... Google's certainly the best, but lately I've been noticing a lot more search results that lead to pages that don't load, or result in 404s (in fact, a domain I used to run 3 years ago is still in Google's index).

    Is google not removing ages from their index to try and seem impressive, or getting lax with recrawling sites? Or am I the only one noticing this?

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  5. Ganz Scheiß by DerGeist · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is all very ironic nonsense; Google showed us just how easy it really is to catch up with "the big guy." Back when Yahoo and Altavista were king, Google overthrew those powerhouses like it was Superbowl III. The key was Google knew what people wanted, and gave it to them. Now, certainly, it doesn't seem like Google is going to forget that anytime soon, and no, it's also not likely at this point that a little guy could wipe out Google, but who knows?

    Look at the way great ideas have grown quickly: YouTube, digg, and so on.

    And you can bet that if someone came up with a radically new search algorithm that provided noticeably better search results than Google (which is actually falling a bit behind, which is a dangerous mistake...) you can believe that most people would quickly migrate to their new engine of choice. (Of course, if it had little to no ads, speedy and reliable service, etc...)

  6. Inertia by fabioaquotte · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Inertia is a powerful thing, people tend to not change services unless the one they are using has serious flaws, or a new one with a "must have" feature shows up.

    Unless someone comes up with a revolutionary feature for search engines, Google won't be losing terrain any time soon.

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  7. Best technology. by Jerk+City+Troll · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It may actually be that anyone has yet to best any technology offerings Google has, hence nobody is able to challenge their dominance. Apart from that, Google is hardly a monopoly. You have a wide selection of search engines and nobody is forcing you to use any of them over the other.

  8. Opposite of my experience by kahei · · Score: 5, Informative


    To me, more and more Google is a tiresome chore -- you have to make stuff work with it, but searches are hugely hampered by blogs, aggregators, search engine traps, link farms and so on to the point where:

    If I want to find out about some general topic, I use wikipedia.
    If I want to find out about a specific thing, I use a site such as riskglossary or MSDN.
    If I want detailed facts, I use a bookshop, still as true today as it was before teh n3t started.
    If I'm looking for a line from a half-remembered song, I use google.

    In other words, google is strong when you want 'something that contains text X' but not strong for 'a page that describes 'X''. And Google's attempts to preserve quality can actually become a nightmare -- that's how Search Engine Optimization got to be a big business.

    I like google and I use google, but to me, the days when it was my one-stop shop for absolutely every visit to the web are long gone.

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  9. What else could I possible want? by el_womble · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google have won this round of the search engine game. As far as keyword search goes, there is no reason for me to switch. They're free, they're fast, they almost always get the info I'm looking for in the first couple of links. There is simply no incentive to change. Unless google feck up (start to support wars/slavery so it becomes political, add one feature too many, finally stop with the search results and just returns ads)

    However, its not sewn up. What I really want is a search engine that actually understands what I'm asking for. Rather than a library index, what I want is a librarian. The company that get that right will be the overal winners... but thats decades away - and I imagine it will come from left field, just like Google did.

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  10. Better search options by iangoldby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find that Google is becoming less and less useful.

    The web now has become so large that a simple keyword search just doesn't cut it anymore. Try searching for information about a popular digital camera from someone who isn't trying to sell them. It is next to impossible. (Yes I know about http://www.givemebackmygoogle.com/ - a good try, but not really addressing the fundamental problem.)

    The best way that search could get better in my opinion is to introduce some kind of filtering on the type of organisation that produces the pages you are searching for. Google already does a bit of this with Google Scholar. But we need something far more general, and more to the point, a facility for excluding results of particular types, e.g. blogs, sites trying to sell something, ...?

    I know that some people will complain that it may be a very subjective judgement whether site X is commercial or not. But search results are never going to be perfect anyway. Let's have the improvements where they are available, and worry about the corner cases later.

  11. Google Vs MSFT monopolies? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Interesting
    OK let us assume for a second Google is the defacto monopoly in search engine business. MSFT is the defacto monopoly in OS business. Are they same?

    I dont think so. Google operates in a field where the switching cost to the user is zero. If GOOG does not deliver, it is extremely easy for the user to switch to a competing search engine. So I dont feel threatened by GOOG. But MSFT monopoly was created by increasing the switching cost to the user. It realized long before its customers, the key to revenue is lock them in. MSFT effectively confused interoperability with IBM-PC compatibility and later Windows compatibility and got bulk of the users locked in. As long as it prices its products, mainly MS Office a tad less than what it would cost the corporations to switch t a competing product they will keep raking money in. And they use the money to make sure that the playing field does not get leveled ever again.

    So GOOG can keep its only if it constantly innovates and provides a better service than its competitor. As long as there is competitive pressure on a company, I dont begrudge any billions they rake in. But I strongly resent even pennies made by unfair companies that do not have the burden of competition. Cable monopolies, electicity utilities, MSFT, teacher unions, anyone who found a way to dodge the pressure of competition irks me. Because I am under so much pressure to constantly learn and fight off competitors 20 years younger than me who are gunning for my job.

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  12. the infinity search engine by everphilski · · Score: 5, Funny

    but the domain name is so long noone ever uses it

  13. Google hardly useful overseas. by Rocketship+Underpant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google is, generally, the best search engine for English, and it's normalization is quite good -- i.e. widening the search to include plurals or singulars, recognize words that might need accent marks, and so on.

    But frankly, Google and Pagerank suck when it comes to searching in languages like Japanese. I can search for a Japanese company or item and get two pages of completely irrelevant links first. Not spam links, but junk like blog posts. Normalization sucks; Japanese uses a mixed script (phonetic kana plus Chinese characters), and Google does no conversion or normalization when searching. It would be a cinch for anyone to top Google in the huge Japanese market, and I think they're already getting pummelled by Chinese search engine.

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  14. Re:Time for some anti-trust! by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, successs and being the best isn't wrong. Using your success and money to oppress others through unethical business practices is. There is a huge difference. Staying on top because you have a great product is one thing. Staying on top because you can quash others unfairly is another.

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  15. They missed the boat. by Jartan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In general the main cause is the bigger search engines are still not even trying to copy the big selling points of google.

    Their front pages are still a big abortion of pictures and junk. Google is simple "box + logo".

    Their results are trying to coppy google but the no.1 thing the google results page sells is TRUST. Most people trust google that all adds are going to be labeled clearly and they will not be inserted into the results!

    MSN/Yahoo/etc already missed the boat on this issue. If anyone is going to compete with Google it's going to have to be someone new at this point probably. Unless of course someone thinks up a new must have feature.

  16. how much they've won by SethJohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful



    In the past six months, I've noticed two computer newb friends of mine doing the same exact thing-- When provided a URL for a website, they don't know they can type it into the browser's URL field. Instead, they use their bookmark for google (it's also set as their home page) and then type the URL into the google search field. In most instances, Google returns a link to the URL they have just typed.

    In the most recent instance, it didn't because it was a website I had just created for my friend. He told me on the phone that he couldn't find the website I had sent him the URL for. I knew the domain was propagated in DNS, so this sounded odd to me. Then when I visited him at his house, I saw him typing it into google instead of the browser's URL field and I had to explain that google didn't yet know about the website and that he needed to request it directly.

    The other guy opens his browser, which has google set as his home page, then he types "www.hotmail.com" into the search field so he can check his email.

    So, yeah, Google has established itself as a fundamental component of the internet for many, many people.

    Seth