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Mozilla Firefox 2 RC2 Released
Shining Celebi writes "According to the Mozilla Developer Center, Firefox 2 Release Candidate 2 is available for download. This looks like it could be the final release candidate, and offers a tweaked UI and improved stability over RC1, plus, of course, all the new in Firefox 2.0 features."
... no correct ACID2, and no support for SVG images in CSS.
Everybody else (besides IE, of course) supports the first, and I'd love Firefox to be the first to support the second.
Just my $0.02, I'm sure everybody's got their own pet RFEs and bugs.
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On the Windows build, the exact opposite seems to be true. The 2.0RC1 build seems to eat up far less RAM in intense browsing sessions than the 1.5.x series did. Much, much, less. Especially on very image intensive sites, that used to cause Firefox to gobble up memory until it usually died after a short period of time (uhhh, I won't explain what kind of "image intensive sites" I'm talking about here, you can figure it out I'm sure). :)
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Personally, I've never had Firefox use more than a 100MB RAM, no matter what I did -- dozens of tabs open, leaving it open for days, etc. I think a big part of the problem is reproducibility in the case of real memory leaks, and then leaks caused by extensions, or users mistaking things as leaks that aren't. At any rate, I figure I have 640MB RAM for a reason, and that's not for it to sit around unused. Unless Firefox steals the memory and keeps other applications from using it, is there really a problem? I've never experienced the hundreds and hundreds of MB RAM usage people talk about, but does it cause actual slowdowns?
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Firefox works fine. It starts slowly, sure, but it always has. GUI responsiveness is perfect. Konqueror is no better. It's a lot worse. I'm not sure whether it's just the Kubuntu build of Konqueror, but everything loads/renders more slowly, the browser doesn't start much faster (if at all), and going back in browsing history isn't instant like Firefox. Not to mention all the ugly repainting Konqueror does...
Please! The day that the Mozilla folks give a rat's ass about what the little people want, well... You know? This memory issue has been around for what? A MILLION YEARS?
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My Firefox on WinXP has been open about 8 hours and is using only 129 MB so far. I have 16 extensions loaded right now.
Generated: Sat Oct 07 2006 00:57:46 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061004 BonEcho/2.0
Build ID: 2006100403
Enabled Extensions: [16]
- All-in-One Sidebar 0.7 RC 4: http://firefox.exxile.net/aios/
- ChatZilla 0.9.75: http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/
- CoLT 2.2.1: http://www.borngeek.com/firefox/colt/
- Console 0.3.6: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=318
- DOM Inspector 1.8.1: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/
- FoxyTunes 2.0.2.1: http://www.foxytunes.com/
- Gmail Manager 0.5.3: http://www.longfocus.com/firefox/gmanager/
- Greasemonkey 0.6.5.20060727: http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/
- MR Tech Local Install 5.3: http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/
- Saved From URL 1.2: http://www.google.com/search?q=Bon%20Echo%20Saved
- Stylish 0.4: http://userstyles.org/stylish/
- Tab Mix Plus 0.3.0.61001: http://tmp.garyr.net/
- Talkback 2.0: http://talkback.mozilla.org/
- Update Channel Selector 1.0.1: http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/
- userChrome.js 0.7: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=397
- XPather 1.0.1: http://xpath.alephzarro.com/
Disabled Extensions: [1]
- Free Download Manager plugin 1.0: http://freedownloadmanager.org/
Total Extensions: 17
Installed Themes: [3]
- Firefox (default): http://www.mozilla.org/
- Halloween 1.9.5: http://edhume.googlepages.com/home
- QuBranch 1.0.20060929: http://www.schrade.com/firefox/themes/
Installed Plugins: (10)
- Java(TM) 2 Platform Standard Edition 5.0 Update 8
- Microsoft® DRM
- Mozilla Default Plug-in
- OpenOffice.org Plug-in
- QuickTime Plug-in 7.1
- RealPlayer Version Plugin
- RealPlayer(tm) G2 LiveConnect-Enabled Plug-In (32-bit)
- Shockwave Flash
- Shockwave for Director
- Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library
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And yet whenever I ask how to reproduce "this memory issue" no one can tell me how to see it. Frankly, lots of us have no idea what you're referring to when you say you're having problems with memory usage in Firefox. Please, explain to us what the problem is, in enough detail that we can finally see it.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Firefox Portable 2.0 RC 2 has been released. For the unfamiliar, Firefox Portable is Firefox packaged with a PortableApps.com launcher so it can be run from a USB flash drive, iPod, portable hard drive, CD, etc and used on any computer. It can also be run from a local hard drive (even your desktop) making it a great way to test out another version of Firefox without impacting your installed version. Grab it from the Firefox Portable 2.0 RC2 Homepage.
Portable versions of Firefox, GIMP, LibreOffice, etc
Firefox uses JavaScript to work with local files and devices. Do you not want Firefox? XUL files can be loaded in the browser that have just as much power as Firefox, and all they require is for the user to say OK to a dialog box.
Steps to total pwnage of most Windows boxes:
1. Create XUL page.
2. Upload XUL page onto the web.
3. Put out links to the XUL page.
4. Hope people follow the links.
5. Hope they say OK to the dialog box.
6. pwnage!
Heh. That's a good one. Bugs reported for RC1 implemented in RC2.
There are bugs still in there that were first reported in 1999.
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/opera/spell check/
You're looking at startup time, not script execution speed. Please be careful to read the posts to see what we're discussing before jumping in with an irrelevant observation.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Unless I'm mistaken, I belive the interface was tweaked a bit (the Go button and stupid "drop down arrow" hover effects on the Back/Forward buttons seem a bit darker) on the Mac version (wouldn't surprise me if the Windows/Linux versions didn't change--RC 1 was at least decent for them), though it still looks terrible for a Mac app. For example, the toolbar icons increase in saturation when you hover over them. Note to theme devs: Mac icons don't do that; this isn't Windows XP. Plus, the whole toolbar is now this light gray instead of the OS X pinstripe background. It seriously looks like a poorly ported KDE app.
That being said, for Mac users who want a theme that actually looks decent, they should try the Gerich/Holander update of the original Pinstripe theme which they created for Firefox 1. Not only is it updated for Firefox 2, but it's been tweaked a bit and looks "20% more Macintosh" according to them--though more like 200% if you ask me: http://kmgerich.com/2006/09/27/pinstripe-for-firef ox-now-with-20-more-macintosh/
It's also available for Windows and Linux and will make Firefox look more or less like the 1.x theme.
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YMMV, I'm still running 2.0b2 on Ubuntu Edgy. A majority of my ffx crashing with the VLC plugin went away with the latest and greatest VLC packages. Seems like the VLC packages were getting updated every day for a while, and it got worse a few times before it got better, but it seems quite stable now.
Stable enough that I can watch CNN pipeline and switch streams with impunity. Prior to about five or six days ago, switching streams seemed to bomb ffx about 1 out of 5 times. It still happens now, but it's pretty rare.
I'm typing this from 2.0b2 and apt is updating everything right now.....There is a ffx update in there, I hope it's RC2, if it's not I will install it manually.
I'll post back to this thread later tonight after I give it a whirl.