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North Korea Says It Has Conducted Nuclear Test
ScentCone writes "North Korea says that it has conducted its first nuclear weapons test and 'brought happiness to its people.' Japan and China earlier issued an unusual joint statement saying that such a test would be 'unacceptable.' As of 11:10PM EST, the USGS says that it has not detected any unusual seismic activity on the Korean peninsula in the last 48 hours." From the article: "The North said last week it would conduct a test, sparking regional concern and frantic diplomatic efforts aimed at dissuading Pyongyang from such a move. North Korea has long claimed to have nuclear weapons, but had never before performed a known test to prove its arsenal. The nuclear test was conducted at 10:36 a.m. (0136 GMT) in Hwaderi near Kilju city, Yonhap reported, citing defense officials." Update: 10/09 05:50 GMT by J : The U.S. Geological Survey reports a 4.2 magnitude quake; South Korean news is reporting a 3.58 magnitude event; the White House apparently confirms a nuclear test.
. . .your ancestors . . . own their lives to it.
All of my ancestors were born before the Night of the Long Knives, nevermind the bomb. Half of my immediate ancestors were already dead before JFK was nominated.
KFG
It is worth reminding you that George Bush senior pulled strings to stop his son George Bush junior (current president) from going to Vietnam. Otherwise, like Kerry, he would have had to go there and serve his country. He did not.
Also, your point is about kids willingly joining the army would be valid if they did it willingly. But in America you put a limit on the amount of social security anyone can claim. So it is highly likely that if you run out of social security you would be very desperate for anywork you could get as starvation is fairly unpleasant. And watching your family starve is probably about the only thing less than pleasant than starving to death yourself. This will give people a great incentive to join the army even without the fact that it is the only way a lot of poor kids can afford to go to college.
And before anyone claims that they paid there own way through college with no financial help from their parents please include a free place to live while saving for college as financial help. Alot of people I know had to start paying rent to their parents as soon as they left school at 16. When you are 16-21 having to pay any rent / keep is very expensive for most people due to the low prospective earnings for the sort of work available to most kids that age.
I dont read
the us is as much at war with terror as it is at war with drugs or cancer. it's a media thing, it's used to sell you stuff and take your $.
A declaration of war is another thing entirely, it's the - regrettable - act of a country that sees no diplomatic way out to resolve an immediate threat to its national security. Not an attempt at fleecing the coffers of the country by using magic invocations. Not a device for personal revenge
while ignoring more pressing matters.
If the US was really at war there would be (at a minimum):
- a rationing of resources states side in order to
get the war over with as fast as possible
- no lack of resources for the fighting personel
- no talk of 'pulling out' in the midst of engagement
(that would otherwise be known as 'defeat')
- a *PLAN* for victory, and a clear definition of what it would
take to declare victory (such as a defined enemy that can capitulate)
With all these factors absent there is no war, except in some peoples heads maybe.
One of the elements of war we do seem to have is war crimes though. And lots of
dead people - both sides - too, for that matter.
Mod me down, see if I care. If you can't stand the truth then use your modpoints
but it won't make the truth go away any time soon. You can't really argue with facts.
If what you keep saying is true then the only thing the US can be conceivably at war with is Islam because that seems to be the common denominator amongst the victims.
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