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China Unblocks Wikipedia
ZZeta writes "Even though the information on the site is still scarce, Editor & Publisher is already publishing the scoop: Apparently, Wikipedia has been unblocked in China. From the article: 'Wikipedia reported on its site that it had received word from multiple users in the country on Chinese-forums.com that the site had been restored.'"
i'm on both and i'm in shanghai, this is awsome news for us, i get alot of information from wikipedia via tor and we all know how slow tor can be, zh.wikipedia.org is also unblocked. the site is being filtered, but atleast i can still access other information.
There is a chinese version, but it is still blocked...
I'm not sure how this gets modded 5 - Interesting.
Perhaps you should go to factcheck.org - a non-paritsan fact-checking website. There is one famous story of a boy who was visited by the NSA for checking out a book, except that he publicly admitted to making up the story. Not a single news agency tried to verify if it was true.
There is warrantless wiretapping which is the big fucked up part of the Patriot Act, but MOST provisions in the Patriot Act do require warrants and court orders still. Perhaps you should Google for the Patriot Act and read it rather than spout off internet rumors and pretend they are facts.
http://blindscribblings.com - Tasty pop-culture in conceptual fashion.
[quote]"I believe the more communication the better..."
The better for whom? Again, I'm left wondering what makes you think you understand the situation. You talk about 'communication' as if all forms of it are good. I know you are trying to frame your points humanistically, however, without looking at what 'communication' means to the Chinese, as opposed to this or that other culture, ignores just one part of their uniqueness.
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Please elaborate?
The good news: The Wikipedia block in China is partially lifted
The bad news: The Chinese version is still not generally accessible, and the Western media reporting has been poor
Editor & Publisher magazine put out an article October 11 saying:
Well not quite correct. Reports started coming in on October 10 from different parts of the PRC, saying that the English Wikipedia was now accessible. A friend using an open Wifi in Beijing emailed me saying he could suddenly start using Wikipedia again. Some folks in Hubei said it was still blocked. Shanghai and Guangdong users said parts were accessible.From a Beijing China Netcom's residential DSL connection, the English language and other foreign language versions are now accessible, but the Chinese version is still blocked (zh.wikipedia.org).
There is no monolithically run Great Firewall of China, even though it is a cute and useful moniker.
The "GFW system" depends on a distributed system of checks and filters that depends on the particular ISP, the type of connection being used, and the geographic locale. A commercial connection in Hubei is different than a residential DSL in Guangdong is different than an academic network in Shantou. Something blocked in one area of the country may be totally fine in another. A keyword that is filtered in one place could be allowed in another.
So for folks in China's tech circles, it's pretty frustrating seeing blanket "China blocks" or "China unblocks" declaration without specifics or accurate reports.
Filtering also happens on different levels between the domestic network and the greater Internet, so even though Wikipedia is generally accessible in English, it's still subject to:
- URL-level filtering - host header or keyword in URL rejected
- Text-stream level filtering - offending keyword in Web page
More info as it arrives, and the "unblock" may still be making its way around the country. But let's not forget that for now the most important part of Wikipedia for PRC users - the Chinese version - is still not generally accessible.This is not surprising. In the first one, you used a (perhaps common) alternate spelling of Tiananmen. In the latter case, you used the more common one.
While Google image searches from China for "Tiananmen Square" would not yield photos of the event that makes the Square notable outside of China, such photos do show up when the Square's name is misspelled. Or at least, such was the case when someone mentioned it on slashdot a few months back.
- RG>
Hey pal, this isn't a pleasantforest, so don't waste my time with pleasantries!
Section 215 also provides: No person shall disclose to any other person (other than those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained tangible things under this section. This gag order would prevent a library, for example, from ever notifying its patrons that the government has requested information from it under Section 215.
Hope you woke up from your sweet dreams. You may now remod GP 5 - Interesting.
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The chinese did not have science. Your belief that they did shows a misunderstanding of science and/or China. The chinese system has always been based on authority, hierarchies and loyalty, which is the opposite of how science works: Science is based on investigation of how the world works and ultimately only accepts the world as an authority.
I recommend "Uncommon Sense" by Alan Cromer for background on this.
As for relating to a timescale that "only they are comfortable with" - I'm not an american, so my culture stretch over a thousand years back locally, with known history. And I personally relate to all of history, including evolutionary time. However, I also relate to the fact that the time now is unique in history, as is the present kind of culture.
Eivind.
Doubting the existence of evolution is like doubting the existence of China: It just shows that you're uninformed.