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Vista Licenses Limit OS Transfers, Ban VM Use

NiK0laI writes "TechWeb has posted an article regarding Vista's new license and how it allows you to only move it to another device once. How will this work for people who build their PCs? I have no intention of purchasing a new license every time I swap out motherboards. 'The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the "licensed device," reads the license for Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Ultimate, and Business. In other words, once a retail copy of Vista is installed on a PC, it can be moved to another system only once. ... Elsewhere in the license, Microsoft forbids users from installing Vista Home Basic and Vista Home Premium in a virtual machine. "You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system," the legal language reads. Vista Ultimate and Vista Business, however, can be installed within a VM.'" Overly Critical Guy points out more information about changes to Vista's EULA and the new usage restrictions. "For instance, Home Basic users can't copy ISOs to their hard drives, can't run in a virtualized environment, and can only share files and printers to a maximum of 5 network devices."

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  1. Re:Two words... by jfclavette · · Score: 5, Informative

    Are we sure this is not the OEM terms ? It's been that way forever.

  2. Re:Two words... by Baricom · · Score: 5, Informative

    The network restrictions are not new. XP has them, although it may have higher limits. Transfer restrictions, however, bother me a lot. I believe this is the first time they've appeared in retail versions of Windows.

    I said back in 2002 that I would never buy a PC again, and that my next computer would be a Mac. Microsoft is making it easier and easier for me to keep to that promise.

  3. Re: ISO Information by sleeper0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just read through the entire EULA because I just couldn't believe they had included "Home Basic users can't copy ISOs to their hard drives". Turns out I was right. As far as I can tell there is no restriction to ISO's per-se, instead the original author was attempting to infer a lack of a right of some versions to store a copy of the software [meaning, a copy of the vista DVD] on "network storage" based on the fact that this right is permitted for Ultimate. However, just because they grant a right to some versions doesn't mean you don't have that right when it isn't explicitly granted - for instance even if they only enumerated the right to backup copies for Ultimate you'd still have that right for all others, existing law generally grants it.

    The translation to "can't copy [any] iso's" happened in the last step, by the comment submitter, and is as far s I can tell just a complete fabrication.

    Some part of me wonders why a website full of people who swear to their grave that they'll never run a piece of software is so intent on discrediting it that they make up shit. Carry on though boys, have fun.

  4. Re:Quick question... by The+Mysterious+X · · Score: 5, Informative
    Whether they've implemented it or not, I don't know, but there is a way for the geust OS to test if it is being virtualised.


    http://invisiblethings.org/papers/redpill.html


    Basically, it tests the location of a particular piece of data.
    If the machine is non-virtualised, it is stored in what is called the IDTR register (this location is constant).


    However, as there is only one IDTR register, when virtualised, it is stored somewhere else.


    There are other techniques available too; however this looks to be the simplest.


    IMO, this new license is rubbish. I expect to go through 3 or 4 computers in vistas lifespan, which would need me to buy at least 2 licenses.


    Whilst Linux would seem to be the perfect option, whenever I'm booted into linux, there is always something that comes up that I just can't do without lots of haxing.


    My Mac on the other hand...

  5. Re:THREE words by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do you know that XP has most of the same legal restrictions? Yet that didn't send millions of desktop users to Linux. It's simply ignored. Corporate users who need to care more about licenses will simply buy the corporate licenses that have less of these restrictions.

    Since very little here is different than XP I imagine this news won't provoke massive Linux migrations.

  6. Re: ISO Information by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ya, I read that site also, but if you lookup their reference for their claims in the actual EULA, it is NOT in the EULA.

    Their main page has a lot of incorrect assumptions and mis-interpretations of the EULA, to the point that many of the laid out claims are just made up.

    The ISO example is one of the more egregious.

    It specifically DOES NOT SAY you cannot copy the Vista ISO for backup or to your hard drive.

    What it DOES say is you can't put it on a network store (like for volume installations - and this is only for the HOME and STARTER versions that have no business being MASS installed from a network location.)

    Either this Website has an axe to grind or they have no technical knowledge...

    As for the other issues, there have been Network connection limitations in Windows NT since version 4.0 for the desktop version. 10 Connections, and this has not changed for the professional level version of Vista either.

    The Home versions are limited to 5 'concurrent' connections. Which seems quite reasonable, because if you have a big enough family that you have 5 OTHER users in your house accessing a file or printer on your computer 'at the same time' then you probably need something other than the HOME edition.

    MS even upped the Media Center Extender 'allowed' connections in Vista over XP, instead of 3 you get 5 on the first tier of Vista that has Media Center.

    Why not rename your post to MS increases connection limits for MCE users?

  7. Re:Two words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I suspect it's quite possibly a product of Overly Critical Guy's imagination - one look at his comment history shows he's never particularly concerned with letting facts get in the way of a good rant at Microsoft.