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DVDs w/ Built in USB Ports for Copy Protection

An anonymous reader writes "Aladdin has come up with a new way of restricting the data stored on optical discs. It's 'XCD' format has a chip built directly into the disc and which fits into a USB port. So, a user needs to plug the disc into their computer to access a cryptophic key before being able to use the data stored on the disc (presumably in some sort of proprietary player)."

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  1. it's called a dongle. by way2trivial · · Score: 4, Insightful

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongle

    we don't need them back, they sucked originally..

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    1. Re:it's called a dongle. by ehrichweiss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're talking "high end medical imaging software", something in the 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars, versus a DVD, something that's bought and sold for under $20. One sells a few thousand copies in its lifetime, if it's lucky, the other sells millions in a year. Not the same thing, IMNSHO. And the reason they use dongles on your software is because they can get away with it since they don't have quite the same threat of piracy; I mean not everyone is going to have medical imaging hardware in their living room next to their flatscreen TV, ya know.

      Though to be fair, you haven't seen a real dongle until you get into other lines of work like cable television where the dongle they sell you IS the server and you can't add memory without calling tech support and getting them to adjust your key. Seriously, the software/hardware sells for over $300k and it's little more than a Linux box.

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  2. Heh by androvsky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay, this one's hilariously bad, to the point of hurting anyone that even thinks about trying to sell it. I can only presume this might be intended for some sort of distribution of classified... no, that doesn't make sense either. But it's just a patent application, a good example of people throwing every idea against the wall to see what sticks. Hint: This won't.

  3. While I appreciate... by RingDev · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Different organizations working to prevent the erosion of the distribution based market. I have a hard time that this will ever catch on.

    1) It adds no value to the content of the delivery.
    2) It makes it more difficult for customers to use the product.

    This might hit some nitch market. It might work acceptably for software sales (infact, the dongle trick has been used for years on software), where the interface and consumer expectations differ. But this will never work in the entertainment industry with out industry wide adoption (read: will never happen).

    -Rick

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  4. Why, I'll just run out and buy it now! by kimvette · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know I want to buy a movie format that I:

    a. can't play on my existing PC (running Linux)
    b. can't play using my existing DVD players
    c. will lose the god damned dongle for
    d. will not obtain any benefit from. In fact, I'll LOSE my fair use rights.

    Thanks, but after thinking it over really hard, I decided to pass on it.

    Hint: drop the DRM.

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  5. Not Only Unfriendly But Anti-Consumer... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A DVD with a USB dongle. It's bad enough that I have to break open the shrink wrap, cut open the security tape on three sides, and undo the pair of latches on the case to get to the DVD. Now they want me to plug in the dongle?! I don't think so!

  6. Media-less society by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    MP3 players, iPods, media centers (and the soon-to-arrive Apple "iTV")... We don't want to handle media. When I buy a DVD, I rip it in H.264/AAC and add it to my "movies hard drive". The last thing I want is a media that makes me handle it twice to watch its content, not to mention the software compatibility issues (I run OS X, not Windows).

    Another case of "just because you can doesn't mean you should".

  7. Expected conversation at company by iSeal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Hey Bob? I know how we spent millions of dollars developing this technology and all. But the cryptographic key that's in the USB part of the disc is data right?"

    "Yeah... and?"

    "Well... They can't change the key that's on the USB part, because the encrypted data itself on the disc will have to remain static right?"

    "What's your point?"

    "Then wouldn't we have saved ourselves millions and millions of dollars by just having that key on the optical disc part to begin with?"

    "..."

  8. Or because... by norminator · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Someone please tell me why they don't just put the damn movie on some sort of USB storage to begin with, and avoid borking up our perfectly good normal DVD drives?

    Because that wouldn't be any fun.

    Actually, I think it's becase a whole bunch of companies want to invent the "holy grail" of copy protection schemes (the connotation of the word scheme makes it fit well here, I think), so they run around making up wildly rediculous stuff that either doesn't work, noone wants it, or is easily bypassed (using magic markers, the shift key, etc.). In the end it just annoys people, but these companies must be getting paid by the so-called content providers, because they never stop trying to think of silly new ways to do things, not realizing that their complicated schemes just annoy legitimate consumers and barely begin to challenge the "pirates".
  9. Will this actually do anything? by TheGrit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So a key needs to be installed before a CD can be read. How will this solve any copy protection issues once it is "unlocked"? Despite the probable DRM; a way will be found to somehow copy the data. The only purpose it will serve is an extra hassle to the average consumer and yet another reason to download illegally.

  10. Kill it early, save a lot of trouble. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Er, no.

    That's like saying "eh, that DMCA bill is just a bunch of Congresscritters doing some research into ways to make a buck. Until it's on the House floor for a vote, it should just be considered interesting thoughts."

    By the time Hollywood is trying to push something down your throat, it's probably already too late. This sort of stupidity needs to be nipped in the bud; the idiot executives who spend millions on these systems and millions more buying laws to force them on us, need to learn that no DRM scheme will last against the concerted effort of thousands of people. It's fundamentally flawed, irretrievably broken, and it doesn't matter if they put the decryption key on a USB dongle, or a special sector of the disc, or over the Internet.

    All DRM is broken, it's just a question of how obnoxious it is to legitimate users. Systems that just reek of stupidity, like this one does, should be killed quickly before they can gain any traction.

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  11. Re:Stupid stupid idea by Sancho · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Until they start using encrypted connections.