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What Earth Without People Would Look Like

Raynor writes "Imagine a world without people. What if every human being, all 6.5 billion of us, were suddenly abducted and the planet was left to fend for itself? The planet would heal. 'The sad truth is, once the humans get out of the picture, the outlook starts to get a lot better,' says John Orrock, a conservation biologist. Pollution would cease being created. It would remain around for many years, CO2 taking as long as 20,000 years to be restored to it's natural level, but will decrease. Even if we were all whisked away and our nuclear reactors melted down, it would have a surprisingly little effect on the planet. Chernobyl gives hope to this end. 'I really expected to see a nuclear desert there,' says Ronald Chesser, an environmental biologist. 'I was quite surprised. When you enter into the exclusion zone, it's a very thriving ecosystem.' In the grand scheme of the world there would be little evidence of our existence at 100,000 years. The most permanent piece is the radio waves we've emitted of the last century. As the article puts it, 'The humbling — and perversely comforting — reality is that the Earth will forget us remarkably quickly.'"

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  1. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'The sad truth is, once the humans get out of the picture, the outlook starts to get a lot better,'

    But for what purpose? That's like never opening a package, so it never gets finished.

    Who would even appreciate it? Is the Earth something so deistic and magical that's its mere existence is good enough by itself? Or, is some alien race (no doubt evilly destroying their own planet) going to come by and appreciate its pristine beauty?

    The planet is here, and we are using it. We are becoming better, and making it more capable. To say that to conserve, take notice, and be proactive, to make it last longer, is not only true, but it is helpful. To say, however, that if we were gone it would be better, is an unproven theory, and would remain unproven, being noone would be here to care.

    Growth takes a toll somewhere. But not for naught. The Earth is here for us, and we have made quite some progress based on her resources. There's no reason to replace our pride with some pessimistic view that promotes nihilism in some strange way.

    1. Re:Moo by dan828 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, did you not find it amusing that during the course of all of this speculation about what would happen on the earth without humans, the guy makes the point that he was totally wrong in his thoughts about what the area around Chernobyl would be like?

      The guy basically tells us that his predictions about ecosystems are for crap anyways, so why the heck should we listen to his current one?

  2. Humans are Entropy by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful
    'The sad truth is, once the humans get out of the picture, the outlook starts to get a lot better,'
    What's sad about that? Do you cry every night knowing that the time you spent in your house added to its deterioration?

    You can view this as we are abnormalities in our ecosystem. We are atypical organisms living beyond what we are supposed to.

    Or you can acknowledge that if other organisms were intelligent enough to make their existence better for them (at the expense of others), they would. That's one of the laws of nature and we're just reverting back to our primal instincts. Now, we're fairly civil and modest in reproducing and killing, so we're a bit better than the animals in that respect. If we chose to acknowledge that we're destroying earth for the rest of the organisms, it would probably be both civil and intelligent. Unfortunately, about half of us don't give a shit. Well, that's what we deal with.

    Every organism is in competition for resources with every other organism in some way. A symbiosis rarely occurs and when it does, it's usually forced (humans raising cattle for milk).

    Is there any scenario we can reach where we won't destroy the environment?

    Probably not but, in my opinion, humans are entropy.

    The humbling - and perversely comforting - reality is that the Earth will forget us remarkably quickly.
    And, if you acknowledge the very long history of the earth, we are remarkably new to the earth. The dinosaurs had a longer reign and they are forgotten with the exception of their bones.
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    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:Humans are Entropy by iocat · · Score: 5, Insightful
      We're not abnormalities. We were created by the eco-system. Then we gamed the (eco)system and beat it. Think our lack of fur makes us unable to survive ice-ages or cold climates? Fuck you, eco-system, we're going to kill some animals and wear their fur! No wings? Fuck you, eco-system, we're making planes! No gills? Again, fuck you eco-system, we're busy evolving Jacques Cousteau and a crazy machine that lets us breathe underwater! Antibiotics -- win for us. Language -- win for us. Brains filled with the ability to learn -- win for us. Crazy-ass opposable thumbs -- win for us. Neil Armstrong -- win for us.

      We're the winners. We rule. As a species, we're at the top of every single food chain on earth, local irregularities notwithstanding (for instance, I would not try to argue this point with a bear, shark or tiger). As long as, as a species, we act smart, we're likely to stay there. That means being responsible, not wrecking things for the next generation, conserving what we have, acting sustainably, and if needed, figuring how to removing unstable elements and memes from our global society (religious fundementalists, dictators with nukes and itchy trigger fingers, etc.). (Oh, and figuring out how to get off this rock long term, so we can beat the sun at its "burn out after a billion years" game too.)

      You're free to disagree with me, but I like being on the winning team as a species. I am much happier as a videogame-enjoying human than I would be as an anonymous ferret or weasel or whatever.

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      Dude, I think I can see my house from here.

  3. even better! by Quadraginta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bah, this fellow lacks imagination.

    Imagine how beautifully clean and preserved the planet would be without life of any type! No more messy leaf litter, buzzing flies around dungheaps, the occasional lightning-sparked forest fire besmudging the sky with ugly smoke...

  4. Can nature save itself from Heat Death? No. by vertinox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In 1.5 billion years the sun will start to grow into a red giant and solar winds winds will strip the Earth of its atmosphere.

    Then in about 5 billion years after that, the sun will have consumed the Earth and whatever life remains on it.

    (Source)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sun_Life.png

    This is of course barring large iron metorites or collision with large space bodies and of course a passing of another solor system or galaxy in the meantime.

    So if man went away tomorrow... Life would be peachy for nature for a while, but then it would die by itself due to reasons far beyond non-intelligents life control (unless dolphins evolve into space faring creatures on their own)

    So nature has to put up with man for a while to we figure out how to get off this rock... Or get used to not being around in a few billion years.

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    "I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
    -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
  5. Better? by venicebeach · · Score: 5, Insightful
    'The sad truth is, once the humans get out of the picture, the outlook starts to get a lot better'
    Better for whom?
  6. Save the whales? Or save us by saving the whales. by dominion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Probably the biggest PR mistake that environmentalists ever made was that they made their activism about "The Earth", and not about our ability to survive on it.

    Nature is a resilient bitch. We could hardly do the kind of damage necessary to make Earth unlivable by something.

    We can, however, make life very unpleasant for mankind. And that's why we need to preserve the environment as best as possible. For us, not the environment.