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Blair Bullied Over Bully

Following up the banning of Bully by British retailers, UK BM Tony Blair faced criticism from Parliment members over the Rockstar title. During the daily 'Question Time' the PM faces, Leicester East's Keith Vaz called for a meeting on the game, and investigation of the title. From the article: "'I know that the Minister for Creative Industries and also the Minister responsible for the industry are very happy to meet with him and stakeholders to discuss it. It's obviously an important issue. I know there's a lot of concern about it. It is, I think, right to say that the video games industry, or certainly a very substantial section of it, have made significant strides and advances over the last few years, but he's quite right, it's important that's maintained,' Blair said."

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  1. Nothing To See Here. by Thansal · · Score: 2, Informative

    The game got a 15+ rateing, some guy (aparently likend to Thompson) does not like it, so they are going to have a meeting about it.

    Out of curiosity, can Parliment ban a game/movie?
    And is The British Board of Film Classification a govn't organisation, or is it like the ESRB?

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    1. Re:Nothing To See Here. by kirun · · Score: 2, Informative

      The BBFC's ratings have legal force, but they are only applied to a small proportion of games (though all films, except most documentaries that get E for Exempt, are rated). It isn't an industry-led body like the MPAA or ESRB. I recall seeing one interview with them when they related the case of a horror film that the producers asked for an 18 rating to be applied. Problem was, the film wasn't very scary, so they only gave it a 15. So, it seems to be able to resist industry leaning on it. (In the end, the film had an unrelated scene from a porno cut in in order to get the 18...)

      Most games are just rated by the industry-run PEGI system.

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  2. Do they even know what the game is about? by Thangodin · · Score: 4, Informative

    You get penalized in this game for resorting to violence at all--and that violence amounts to fisticuffs. The game is about outwitting bullies and coping at a dysfunctional school, not about being one. In fact, it's one of the most interesting game concepts to come out in a while. These people are reacting because of its name, and because it was made by Rockstar, who also make the GTA titles. Beyond that, they haven't a clue.

    Once again, another example of politicians grandstanding with no idea of what they are talking about. Did you know, by the way, that the premise of the terrorist plot which recently hit the headlines--the plan to mix chemicals on the plane to produce explosives--was completely unworkable? You need a reasonably well equipped lab to control the reaction, keeping it at low temperatures, otherwise the chemical mixture will go off prematurely and all you'll get is a loud, smokey fizzle--enough to draw a lot of attention to yourself, but not enough to actually kill anyone, let alone bring down a plane. But none of the politicians could actually be bothered to ask a chemist about that, either. So now people can't bring any liquids on a plane, because our leaders are just too fucking lazy to do a little research...

  3. Inaccuracies in submitted text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Following up the banning of Bully by British retailers"

    1 retail group has banned it - and as the BBC article on the banning reported yesterday, it can still be bought from most of the high street retailers, thus is not going to cause anyone who wants the game any problems.

    "During the daily 'Question Time' the PM faces"

    While it would be fun for it to be daily, it is actually weekly, midday on a Wednesday during parliament.

  4. Obligatory Links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Posting Anonymously for non-karma whoring.

    Go to straight to the source: Official website of PM's Question Time.

    Direct links of the Oct 18 session:
    Windows Media.
    Real Player.
    Transcript

  5. I played it a lot yesterday by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 2, Informative
    My big beef is load times. A lot of time you're going from the outdoor zone into the main school building (or another peripheral bldg) and it's

    Always

    Loading

    Which can be a pain in the ass. It will really depend on if it drops off past chapter 1. Chapter 2 I just started (which according to most reviews is where the game officially "starts") and it's pretty neat.

    The school classes you must attend are all minigames, some good some bad. (Art is very similar to the arcade classic Qix . . . and is much fun)

    I can't give any sort of definitive review at this point because it feels like I'm at that point with a lot of games where I've gotten a good 4 hours of play out of it that has been fun, but it could swing either to Really Annoying and Repetitive or Fantastically Cool Game.

    So far it seems to be a really big hit if you like minigames. There's a shitload of them.

    And as an aside, the whole "you're helping little kids fight back" P.C. line is total bullshit. You're pretty much a bully in the game through the first act, and if the fighting moves and the like are any indicator, that's the case through the whole game.

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  6. I don't think you've played it by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 2, Informative
    Since that's the line that was fed me as well.

    I've played the game for a few hours. While you can't hit girls and get away with it (mostly - you CAN get away with it but it's really tough to do) you're a bully in a school of bullies.

    You're not helping the little guy in any meaningful way, except in side montages propelling the plot forward.

    You're beating people up all the time. You can humiliate them and while it raises your threat level incrementally, it doesn't impact the game through the first 2 chapters at all.

    Frankly, I think both sides are guilty of lack of investigation. It's not a Columbine simulator, but there's mud to be slung.

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  7. Re:WTF? by mabinogi · · Score: 3, Informative
    >the two are completely unrelated and this story refers to the BBC TV program.
    No it doesn't.
    From the article (the first paragraph instead):

    Keith Vaz, Member of Parliament for Leicester East, called for a discussion of Rockstar Games' Bully (Canis Canem Edit in the UK) in today's Prime Minister's Question Time.

    Followed by (beginning of next paragraph)

    Vaz addressed Tony Blair in London's House of Commons...

    That seems to be pretty clearly the parlimentary Question Time (or Prime Minister's Questions or "Questions to the Prime Minister" as it's called in the UK), and not a BBC programme.
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  8. Re:I have a document they all should read there... by bri2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The strange thing is that that the statutory British Board of Film Censorhip (or Classification, as they prefer to cal themselves these days) who, amongst other things, have legal responsibility for age ratings for video games HAVE played Bully and rated it as a 15, meaning they really don't find it that bad.