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Judge Rules In Favor Of Spamhaus

Waylon writes "U.S. District Judge Charles Kocoras has ruled in favor of The Spamhaus Project. e360 Insight responded on its homepage, saying the judge's ruling was 'a devastating loss of personal freedom for all U.S. citizens'. As opposed to shutting down a voluntary service which tries to mitigate the millions of unsolicited emails that e360 Insight pumps out every single day." From the article: "In his order, Judge Kocoras wrote that the relief e360insight sought is 'too broad to be warranted in this case' and that suspending the domain name would 'cut off all lawful online activities of Spamhaus, not just those that are in contravention' of the default judgment. He also called e360insight's motion one that 'does not correspond to the gravity of the offending conduct.'"

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  1. Whew by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 1, Funny

    That's a relief, I really don't think I was ready to handle all that spam.

  2. Go to the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Please, for the sake of fairness, please go to the e360insight website Read for yourself what they have to say. Consider it carefully, go back later to gain additional insights. (Heh, I said insights.)

    1. Re:Go to the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh please, for the love of God, I plead with you not to abuse the internet resources of e360insight. These good people are concerned about YOUR personal freedom, which you'd know if you went to their webpage to read their material. Please don't flood their contact page with insults and don't post random email addresses. I don't want people to put a huge loan on their web server -- I simply want each and every person at Slashdot to make up their own mind, based on their own exploration the information on their website

    2. Re:Go to the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please, oh please! In the memory of my dear departed Aunt Myrtle please don't abuse their contact page! If you want to provide them with insightful (heh, I said insightful again) commentary, it is only reasonable to provide them with a real email address so they can reply! Using a random fake email address when you contact them would just be wrong. These freedom loving people are fighting for your rights!

    3. Re:Go to the source by 19061969 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was going to ask them if they were interested in C|@l!s tabs. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity, so maybe I should write a script to tell them a few thousand times?

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    4. Re:Go to the source by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny

      It doesn't matter - its just to pass the stupid email validation and rub their nose in it when they think the population is behind them. You can use george.bush@whitehouse.gov - though if you do, please make the message VERY supportive of them - (add in allusions to terr'rists on the net and how spamhaus is helping hide WMDs in North Korea and Syria).

  3. Loss of personal freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    e360 Insight responded on its homepage, saying the judge's ruling was 'a devastating loss of personal freedom for all U.S. citizens'.

    It's true! Our constitutional right to not be able to get a dns lookup on spamhus.org has been torn away from us. Why oh why does Judge Kocoras hate us so much? :(
    1. Re:Loss of personal freedom by Geak · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now we are going to need bigger tubes to handle all the extra internets that will be getting. Does anybody know this judges email address and perhaps have a copy of spamhaus's RBL? Perhaps the judge's email address should be handed over to every spammer in the RBL. Then he will need a bigger tube to handle all the extra internets he will be getting. Maybe he will buy some of the Viagra advertised in the internets so he can have a bigger tube.

  4. Damned activist judges... by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...making law from the bench! This one ruling for some fooreen company over a good-old, red, white and blue U.S. homegrown! How dare he! Probably a Democrat and communist, too.

    What?

    Spam? Yeah, it is good with a little cheese and...

    Oh, THAT stuff!? Those guys need to be publically whipped and castrated! There ought to be a law that protects decent citizens from all that perverted material arriving in your mailbox without asking. I mean, one visit to whitehouse.com, fill in one little form and give 'em one little credit card and all of a sudden I get this crap in my mailbox! What if my kid opens my email?

    Won't somebody please think of the children?

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    1. Re:Damned activist judges... by Suhas · · Score: 3, Funny

      >>Won't somebody please think of the children? I am sure Mark Foley is thinking of the children.

  5. The straight dope by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's make one thing clear, the original judgment is of no value.

    Lindtard, e360 insight lawyer, actually LIED to the court by stating that Spamhaus did business in Illinois. This is patently false.

    Spamhaus has stated such to the judge, but the judge chose to ignore that advice and press forward with the case.

    Upon seeing that it would not be able to get heard by the court, Spamhaus wisely decided to withdraw completely. Being based in Britain, Spamhaus would not be bound by any judgment that would arise, and since the court chose to be bamboozled by the chickenboning spammers, the judgment rendered would be of no value anyways.

    The judge ruled in favour of the plaintiff by default, but such a judgment is ineffective as US judgments do not apply to the UK.

    The case redux came about when chickenboning Lindtard drew an amazingly broad order that the judge refused to enterinate, as being "far too broad in regard to the violation effected".

    However, given the potential disruption if Spamhaus.org would be suspended, a prominent Chicago law firm has offered it's services pro-bono.

    So we can expect the chickenboning Lindtard's gang of e360 insight to have their gonads flattenned pretty quick by the court pretty soon (if not by Angel's Anvil Delivery Service)...

    Let this be a warning to spammers: YOU CHICKENBONERS CANNOT EXPECT TO WIN, AND AS PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE TIRED OF YOUR SHENANIGANS, YOU CAN BE EXPECTED TO BE HUNTED AND SEE YOUR SPAMMING OPERATIONS KILLED PRETTY MUCH EFFECTIVELY.

  6. The important thing to take away from this by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.e360insight.com/index.html

    You will notice that, at the bottom of the page, there is a contact us type button.

    I think we've all learned something important here today.

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    1. Re:The important thing to take away from this by dubbreak · · Score: 4, Funny

      As long as you are visiting the site you may as well download this 191 page pdf. If we all download it we can better understand the case. This 27 page pdf might be worth checking out as well, you know, to get the facts straight.

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  7. Re:Finally common sense, thank you by AgNO3 · · Score: 2, Funny
    All i have to say about it after seeing 568 messages today in my mailbox. Yes, 2 is a valid mail, the rest is buy viagra and get a college degree scam.

    cheers


    College degree Scam??? You mean I am not really a Ph.D.?
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  8. Re:Why by Legion303 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "isn't there be an easier way to get rid of the pest at the source itself?"

    Yes: a good rifle.

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    Anyone hooked on meth tonight and feel like making a few phone calls?

  10. Re:Note to E360INSIGHT: FUCK YOU by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Funny

    For those that think I'm trolling, look at my slashdot ID number, I've been around a long time.

    Newbie.

  11. Re:"a devastating loss of personal freedom for..." by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Funny
    Don't you have a war to sign up for, you YELLOW Republican.
    Don't you have a five year plan to work on, you commie PINKO. :P

    (This is fun! Now someone do a libertarian one!)
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  12. Re:GMAIL FTW! by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I fixed a Microsoft Exchange server once. I installed Debian and Exim on it.

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  13. Re:"a devastating loss of personal freedom for..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    (This is fun! Now someone do a libertarian one!)
    Don't you have an environmentally unfriendly industry to deregulate, you anti-GREEN libertarian?
  14. You misspelled that... by ZxCv · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's spelled "N00B13".

    ;-)

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