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ChatterBlocker — Block Distracting Speech at Work

An anonymous reader writes "ChatterBlocker is a PC program that uses digital audio technology to neutralize the sound of speech and other distractions so you can stay focused at work or elsewhere." Personally I just crank the tunes. Anyone know if this actually works or if it's a scam? Or is it just a white noise generator?

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  1. Free Speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I dunno. Sounds like it would have a chilling effect on free speech to me.

    1. Re:Free Speech? by CdXiminez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, it supports the freedom to choose what to listen to.
      One does not have an obligation to listen to everybody's use of free speech.

    2. Re:Free Speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hear that "whooshing" sound? That's the joke/subtle jab going right over your head.

    3. Re:Free Speech? by stunt_penguin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, phew! I thought it was the sound of my latest deadline whizzing by!

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    4. Re:Free Speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. Just a moment..."
      "Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. Just a moment..."
      "Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. Just a moment..."

  2. obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nothing to hear here, move along.

  3. Earplugs by owlman17 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earplugs ought to work just as well, if not better.

    Cheaper too I'd suppose.

    1. Re:Earplugs by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In his first novel World of Ptaavs (now part of the Three Books of Known Space omnibus) Larry Niven suggested that over the next couple of centuries people would evolve to be able to more powerfully focus on relevant conversation and filter out noise. The growing population, he suggested, would result in all public spaces being much more full of chatter than now. People would be driven mad if they didn't adapt.

      It seems a better solution than earplugs, which would block out everything, even useful sound. But the idea is fanciful, for instead of biological or psychological progress, it seems that these sort of technological advances as described in the article will serve to keep the world around us quiet.

    2. Re:Earplugs by ahertz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, as someone who works with a bunch of chatty people, I've found that earplugs do a pretty lousy job at blocking out conversations. The problem is that the best earplugs you can buy at your local drug store only attenuate noise by ~32 decibels. But a typical conversation, at close range, is ~60 decibels. You wind up just blocking out all the low-level background noise (computer fans, air conditioning, ...), leaving the voices even more distinct.

      I've found the best solution for me is a pair of headphones that seal pretty well, combined with music. The sealed headphones drop everything, so the music can be much quieter and still drown them out.

      I'm actually thinking of picking up a pair of Shure E2C earbuds for just this purpose. Has anyone got any experience with them? Will they do what I want?

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    3. Re:Earplugs by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

      Using different densities & materials, earplugs can (to a degree) be tailored to block certain frequencies.

      Also earplugs are generally better at blocking high frequency sounds, while earmuffs are better for the low freq noises (or vice versa, but I think I have it right). And you should wear both if things are going to be really loud.

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    4. Re:Earplugs by parc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have the prior generation of these earplug/headphones. A couple things I've learned:

      1) You have to stick them WAY inside your ears to get the full effect. It feals like you're poking your brain stem.
      2) They work incredibly well.
      3) You'll suddenly discover how crappy your home and car speakers are, and how REALLY crappy normal headphones are.

      If you're really serious, get a good set of musician ear-moldings. They'll fit the E2C earphones, IIRC, and they're much more comfortable from what I'm told.

    5. Re:Earplugs by Desult · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've got the E3c earphones, and I've had them for about a year and a half. I bought them for plane trips, and they're quite good at reducing the overall noise. It's not total silence when you put them in but it is definitely a significant reduction, especially in background noise/talking. As an example, I have to take them out to hear the flight attendant, or someone sitting beside me, but I can typically hear loud noises (e.g. the "ding" for the PA). With music or movies playing you can miss even louder sounds.

      As a general recommendation, I've found them to be OK sound quality and good build quality - the cable and connections are still in quite good condition even with regular use over the past 18 months. The E3c model came with a bunch of different "plugs". I find the gray soft rubber ones the most comfortable and best sound reduction, but the harder clear ones the easier to use (i.e. stay in your ears and keep clean). I don't know if the E2cs come with different plugs, I seem to recall that was one of the selling points for the E3cs. The E4cs were recommended to me as a better bass response, which at the time I didn't think was that big of a deal. I still think it might be better for my hearing to skip the louder bass, but that is one area where the E3cs are slightly lacking. The bass response is OK but never stands out (does not compare to even a low end set of good headphones imo).

      Just as an aside, I've found that they are somewhat inappropriate for office use. With music playing they will basically silence anyone who might be talking to you directly, potentially even your phone ringing if it's not loud enough. I have a cheap set of normal over-the-ear headphones that do NOT cut out direct noise that I use when I'm in an office environment, that's always been good enough for me.

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    6. Re:Earplugs by turtledawn · · Score: 3, Informative

      I also have the E2Cs, and I didn't have the problem of feeling like i was sticking things too far into my ear- of course, I've been shooting rifles since I was six which means that I've been using ear plugs since i was six, and am quite accustomed to them. In my work environment, there's a fair bit of background noise (about twelve computers, a large refrigerator, a fossilized air conditioner compressor, three centrifuges going on and off) and at the time i bought the phones, two coworkers whose constant, shrill, incredibly loud laughter reminded me of hyenas. The Shures saved my bloody sanity until i got the promotion and PHB said I had to "be available to answer employee questions at all times." Fortunately one hyena-woman had left by then... They worked really well for my needs, a mix of constant background hum and sharp high-frequency outbursts, though the high pitch stuff still came through enough to detect.

      My problem with the E2C actually was that in combination with my Rio Carbon I could not turn the music volume down _low_ enough to be 100% comfortable all the time. I couldn't listen to rock music with them, for example, because I found it painfully loud. This is not a problem for most people, I'm told :)

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    7. Re:Earplugs by mrderm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ive been using shure E3Cs for nearly a year now, on a train, and to block out a noisy office. Wearing the headphones I will usually not hear any train noise - not even the 'ding' for the PA - unless I lean my head back onto the train seat headrest and enough sound will conduct through the back of my skull.

      In the office environment there is really no doubt that they block *everything*. (Even telephones..... why do they put alarm bells on those things?). They score highly for comfort too, which is important if you are wearing them for a full working day. I can turn down the volume to the level I want for the music, rather than the level I need to block out the chatter. One disadvantage is that you need to remove them to have any conversation, or even to get up and walk around in safety. And then you need somewhere hygienic to store them when they are not inserted.

      The E3Cs come with a range of different ear inserts, in different sizes. I recommend you take your time in trialling the different options. I was nearly ready to give up on them before finally trying the *small* soft inserts. I think that is the first time I have needed the 'small' in anything.

  4. useless by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    I downloaded the demo, turned on all the options, set the reverb to high, and now I can't concentrate on anything at all. This thing is totally useless.

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  5. Worst. Article. Ever. by Snover · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From the FAQ:


    How does ChatterBlocker work?

            ChatterBlocker masks unwanted office chatter using a soothing blend of nature sounds, music and anti-chatter voices.


    WOW. MINDBLOWING.
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    1. Re:Worst. Article. Ever. by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So basically they charge 35 dollars for a bunch of wave files and some marketing on drool proof paper.

      You have to admit it's quite ingenious.

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  6. perfect by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    After playing with it for a few minutes, I think I've found the perfect setting to keep people away from my desk--turn everything off except for Cypress Goats.

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  7. pure snakeoil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    snakeoil ...

    Quote:
    "ChatterBlocker includes bell sound loops that can be used as periodic reminders to breathe"

    now, come on ... people buying this may be stupid. But reminding them to breathe ?

  8. Try the Demo! by Simon+(S2) · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Personally I just crank the tunes. Anyone know if this actually works or if it's a scam? Or is it just a white noise generator?


    Why did'nt you try the demo? I did, and this stupid program does nothing more than generate sound. This way you have even more noise around you.

    Really, worst article ever.
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  9. Re:Noise cacellation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's NOT noise cancellation. From the FAQ:

    Does ChatterBlocker use noise cancellation?

    No. Noise cancellation would not be effective over speakers, and noise cancelling headphones have limited effectiveness in silencing voice.

    Good quality noise cancelling headphones are great for reducing low-frequency sounds, such as airplane engine rumble, but they are not as effective in the 2 to 8 kHz consonant range that conveys much of the speech intelligibility.

  10. Can you hear what my mouth is saying? by rjamestaylor · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just keep a bowl of crunchy cereal at my desk AT ALL TIMES.

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  11. Re:Noise cacellation? by cnettel · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, that's simple enough. If the boss is screaming from the other end of the corridor, you just put the microphone there. If the corridor is long enough, that gives you a plenty of time for the OS to get the sound at the signal propagation speed, while it reaches your ears from air. Then, you'll just need to tune the system to model the time-frequency response distortions through mic, corridor sound reflections and the pecularities of your amplifiers and speakers.

  12. Hardware version by ConversantShogun · · Score: 5, Funny

    My computer came with a hardware version. It sits near the back and blows air out a vent to create speech-canceling noise.

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  13. Taco Taco Taco by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If anyone has ever wondered if Taco and the other editors even bother clicking on the links in the summaries, here's your answer: "Anyone know if this actually works or if it's a scam? Or is it just a white noise generator?"

    Anyone who's taken even 15 seconds to look into this will instantly know the answer.

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  14. Re:Er,,, by ReallyEvilCanine · · Score: 4, Informative
    You're an idiot and so is the mod who called you "Insightful". Read your own link:

    They work well for sounds that are continuous, such as the hum of a refrigerator, but are rather ineffective against speech or other rapidly changing audio signals.

    Noise cancellation requires hardware. Headphones use microphones to pick up the sounds which are then cancelled by phase-inversion. It gets vastly more complex when dealing with open spaces. This is nothing that software alone has a solution for.

  15. Re:From the site: by ectal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do you have any idea what kind of energy is released when chatter voices come into contact with anti-chatter voices?

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  16. Not a scam, but.... by 3seas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...when I'm irratated at work, even silence can be distracting.

    And there are those who have just the right irratating, cutting thru anything (even head phones blasting) voice sound, change in volume, starts to say something five different ways before they stumble it out, etc..that you just have to know ain't nobody going to custom create sounds to drown these unique voices out.

    But this is not a scam as I'm sure it is capable of smoothing over common chatter. I think what helps me to believe this is that I saw some short clip on TV about movie sound effects. Ever notice that background murmer of people talking in a scene where there are lots of people but you really only hear the actors in focus? This is only one example, but there is at least one company that does nothing but deal with teh talent that is hired for these background effects.

    My reasoning is that if you can create such chatter that is not so distracting, you probably have a good idea as to what is distracting and that should make for a good start at address the problem,

    Now if you check out the site, you'll see they are far from being new to the sound industry.

    It may not work as well as you like against those uniquly distracting voices but for alot of offices it probably would help.

    As to mind focusing sounds, this is also been researched. I myself sometimes listed to Yani to help life my mental state and I read something where during the playing of some mathmatically/logically correct classical piece (bach or batoveen sp?) it is difficult to lie.

    I suppose the trick is to take the distracting noice and add such pleasing noise to the mmix that blends the distraction into the acceptable.

    I've noticed some music works better than other at drowning out specific office noise.

    Someone saw me with head phones on and ask: Rocking Out? I said: No! Drowning out....

  17. RTFA by LordEd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Does ChatterBlocker use noise cancellation?

            No. Noise cancellation would not be effective over speakers, and noise cancelling headphones have limited effectiveness in silencing voice.

            Good quality noise cancelling headphones are great for reducing low-frequency sounds, such as airplane engine rumble, but they are not as effective in the 2 to 8 kHz consonant range that conveys much of the speech intelligibility.



            How does ChatterBlocker work?

                    ChatterBlocker masks unwanted office chatter using a soothing blend of nature sounds, music and anti-chatter voices.

                    It also offers mindfulness meditation tracks intended to increase concentration, reduce distractibility and minimize the stress response to office noise.


    So i guess the way it works is by making sounds that blend with other background noises, but aren't as annoying (in theory).
  18. Developer's reply by evickers · · Score: 5, Informative

    ChatterBlocker uses nature sounds, music and background "anti-chatter" voices (or "walla") to mask the intelligibility of unwanted conversations. It does not use noise cancellation (which, as has been pointed out, would not work using speakers and has limited effectiveness at voice frequencies).

    It's obvious from your feedback that we did not make this clear enough. We discuss this in detail on our FAQ page, in the "More Info" page and in our white papers, but we have now added additional clarification to our home page. I thought I was doing a good thing by taking off my engineering hat and putting on my marketing hat, focusing on the benefits not the technology, but obviously this has derailed the discussion toward the topic of noise cancellation.

    Our testers felt the program was useful for masking unwanted conversations, and less distracting than listening to pop music. If you're interested, give the demo a try. We welcome your feedback.

    Earl Vickers
    The Sound Guy, Inc.
    http://chatterblocker.com

  19. Re:Earplugs and leet skillz! by cloricus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm interested in these results Larry suggested. My friends and I for the last year have been working on a skill, one that we wondered if it was possible while bored in a lecture one day, where as usual you filter all noise that is irrelevant (the venues in our cases include lecture theaters and filled refectories) and touch type on an assignment or other wise engaging task with the added difficulty of holding a detailed conversation on another topic with some one else. In the beginning it was rather impossible though surprisingly enough it is rather doable as we have found with only a little practice and then a lot of usage to get the words per minute ratio up.

    Laptops allow you to be anywhere and we know we can filter noise and information a lot better than is currently done (and with less effort than at least I expected) plus the human brain is perfect for multitasking. I wonder if this sort of thing is indeed the future of at least geekdom, maybe of office space in general?

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  20. Re:Noise cacellation? by hankwang · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems that nobody in this thread understands the problems with noise cancellation. Of course it is trivial to build an analog circuit that substracts the signal from a small microphone from the signal that goes to the headphone speaker. Unfortunately, that won't work. The problem is that a headphone typically has a very complicated frequency response resulting from the resonances in de closed volume between the eardrum and the headphone loudspeaker, and the attempts of the headphone designer to compensate for these resonances. (see for example here). The net effect is that the impulse response of the headphone/ear system with respect to electrical signals going into the speaker is about 1.5 ms. That means that even if you have full knowledge of the interaction of the headphone with a particular ear, you need to know what sound wave to cancel 1.5 milliseconds in advance. In this time, the sound can travel about 50 cm, which is obviously more than the 1-2 cm between the headphone speaker and the microphone.

    So to make an effective noise-cancellating headphone, you have to compromise on sound quality in order to give it a quicker impulse response. Then you will have to accept that you will never be able to effectively cancel out high frequencies (above 1 kHz or so). Finally, you will still need to build some kind of lowpass filter such that you won't substract the higher frequencies with the wrong phase and thus increase the noise rather than decrease it. With all these constraints, you can be happy if you achieve 10 dB reduction.