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The Netscaping of Symantec and McAfee

rs232 writes to mention a C|Net article about the uncertain future of the popular anti-virus software companies. "I mention Netscape because, if you believe Symantec and McAfee, a similar situation is about to unfold within the security industry. Microsoft, again recognizing late that it had failed to seize upon this thing called security, is now about to bundle its own security solutions within Windows Vista and further enforce new security policies that lock out some third-party security solutions altogether. Vendors Symantec and McAfee have looked into the future and realized that people may one day speak of them in the way that we now speak reverently of the early builds of Netscape."

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  1. Speak reverently of Symantec? by xs650 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Vendors Symantec and McAfee have looked into the future and realized that people may one day speak of them in the way that we now speak reverently of the early builds of Netscape."

    Speak reverently of Symantec...... Bwahahahahaha

  2. Re:But they are already unusable monsters... by krell · · Score: 4, Funny

    "symantec in particular brings a system to its knees"

    But that is security! Studies have shown that a system brought to a complete 100% standstill is impervious to malware and virus infection.

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    Where were you when the voynix came?
  3. News Flash! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This Just In: Symantec sues Linux for creating a secure product, denying the company a potential revenue stream.

    I'm no fan of Windows, you'll never see me use an OS that requires fifteen free gigs just to install, but if they're finally getting their security right then I guess the security vendors are S.O.L.

  4. Re:This is NOT the same thing by AdamKG · · Score: 5, Funny

    And, in this analogy, Linux users are still immune!

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    groupthink: It's good for self-esteem.
  5. What's truly maddening about this is... by AmazingRuss · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I spent years getting people to buy antivirus software...and now as you say, the antivirus software has grown into a problem of its own.

    People look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them their paid antivirus software is causing their computer to suck, and I need to replace it with free antivirus software. Their poor little heads just spin as they smile, nod, and slowly back towards the exit.

  6. Re:This is NOT the same thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    McAfee is about as horrible as Symantec


    Agreed. McAfee software crashed my XP installation on my Dell 4600, requiring me to purchase a new HDD to reinstall. Now, with two HDD's, the power supply is ailing, I have ordered a new heavy duty one for $140.00.


    All because Windows is not secure, and Dell thought that McAfee software might help, so they bundled it in the package. Wound up putting Symantec software there, that is costly also, and take lots of time to scan for viruses.

  7. Windows _____ - now with more security! by DonChron · · Score: 3, Funny

    How often have you heard that the new version of Windows is "more secure" than the last version? A quick recap:

    Windows 3.1 - no real security, but it's prettier than DOS!

    Windows for Workgroups 3.1.1 - now with a login screen (but still no real security)!

    Windows NT 3.51 - now with ACL's (and mostly not compatible with Win3.1 apps)!

    Windows 95 - also has a login screen! no real security, but prettier than WfW!

    Windows NT 4.0 - now with shared ACL's (domains) - the most secure Windows ever!

    Windows 98 - Slightly less likely to crash than Win95! No NT security features!

    Windows ME - Now with some system-software protection, but still no ACL's!

    Windows 2000 - An improved interface and kernel! Active Directory 1.0! Now, the most secure Windows ever!

    Windows XP - The successor to the Win2k and Win9x kernel products - super duper secure! Home users still run as the super-user, but it's less likely to crash! ACL's for Professional users and a very limited firewall make this, yes, the most secure Windows ever!

    Windows 2003 (server) - The XP kernel in a server! Hardly anything runs by default! The Most Secure Windows Ever!

    Windows Vista - Still with ACLs! New ways to limit access! Everyone's running as superuser, but with more warnings!

    Windows Longhorn (server) - Not fully designed, but looks a little less secure than Win2003 - possibly *not* the most secure Windows ever!

  8. Re:This is NOT the same thing by Compholio · · Score: 2, Funny
    And, in this analogy, Linux users are still immune!
    So what are we then? eunuchs? Thats's no fun...
  9. Re:This is NOT the same thing by Andrew+Kismet · · Score: 2, Funny

    Eunuchs, unix, close enough...

  10. Re:This is NOT the same thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Unethical things such as what you are describing are not common business practices, especially when you are talking about a multi-billion dollar software company.

    Microsoft, the convicted monopolists par excellence, wouldn't do something like this?

  11. Re:This is NOT the same thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The use of "sic" is indication to the reader that all though [sic] the quotation looks funny, it really was originally written thus.

    Heh.

  12. Re:This is NOT the same thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Nooo, multi-billion dollar companies never do anything unethical...

    HP, Enron, The Oil Companies... Microcoff

    G.

  13. Re:This is NOT the same thing by smasm · · Score: 2, Funny

    MS literally has a golden-egg laying goose? So that's where all their money comes from...