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Privacy Pitfalls in No-Swipe Credit Cards

Nrbelex writes to mention a New York Times article about the privacy pitfalls of 'no-swipe' credit cards. Despite assurances from the card companies, researchers Tom Heydt-Benjamin and Kevin Fu were able to easily retrieve data from the new cards ... data available without encryption and in plain text. From the article: "They could skim and store the information from a card with a device the size of a couple of paperback books, which they cobbled together from readily available computer and radio components for $150. They say they could probably make another one even smaller and cheaper: about the size of a pack of gum for less than $50. And because the cards can be read even through a wallet or an item of clothing, the security of the information, the researchers say, is startlingly weak. 'Would you be comfortable wearing your name, your credit card number and your card expiration date on your T-shirt?' Mr. Heydt-Benjamin, a graduate student, asked."

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  1. Pickpocketing at a new level by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the old days, you used to actually have to stick your hand into someone's pocket or purse.

    In the new days, you apparently only have to sit next to them on the bus.

  2. Geeks Rejoice! by narftrek · · Score: 5, Funny

    FINALLY! Us geeks have something to be happy about. For once we can walk confidently sporting our tinfoil wallets and WE'LL be the ones laughing...all teh way to the bank!

  3. Oyster Cards on the London Underground by QuatermassX · · Score: 5, Interesting
    In London, TfL can track my movements for the past several years, but I do wonder how often people have their Oyster data swiped. Of course, what would the purpose be, really ... use and abuse that season ticket? Hmmm ...

    Of course, I found this interesting blog post from several years ago: http://www.spy.org.uk/spyblog/2004/02/foiling_the_ oyster_card.html

    I just wish TfL would get the bloody Silverlink / North London Line railways on the system rather than posting stormtrooper rent-a-cops at selected stations on random mornings. I actually do pay my fare, but I'm deeply distressed by the rudeness of some of the non-TfL staff. Treat customers not as potential fare-evaders but customers!

    1. Re:Oyster Cards on the London Underground by CowboyBob500 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Take anything on that Spy Blog with a very large sack of salt. They wrote about one of the projects I was involved in a few years back, and it was just about the most complete load of uninformed bollocks I've ever read.

      Bob

    2. Re:Oyster Cards on the London Underground by SenseiLeNoir · · Score: 5, Informative

      Silverlink Metro will be coming under the new tfl "London Overground" system in 2007. And yes will be fully oysterised.

      I do know about the thugs who pose as Ticket inspectors... I was once getting off the SilverLink COunty service from Euston to Harrow and Wealdstone, and the "thugs" were waiting on the stairs.. I shown my Oyster (travelcard, not pre pay) and he checked with the reader, then grunted in a few loud syllables that would make an orangutang proud "Not Valid". And pushed me aside.... (for once i was glad there was CCTV in the area).

      I piped up, louder "Of course its bloody valid!" and fished out my record card. It seems there was another chap also given the rough treatment...

      Mr gorrilla, said "That record card must be fake!" with obvious snicker.

      "Call your manager NOW, before I call the Police!"

      He was saying "You do that sonny," when his supervisor came to see what the commotion was about (The other guy next to me was makign an equally loud commotion)..

      He checked my record card, and saw it was perfectly valid.. then checked the readers of the baboons, and found them set for zone 6.. WTF.

      With a lot of apologies, we were allowed to move on.

      My suggestions for anyone who has an issue with these blokes, write a letter to both TfL and Silverlink.

      I do understand they do need to check for tickets, they are loosing millions of pounds a year thanks to fare avaders. And nothing annoys me more than watching people chance it.

      However, their bahviour is not on.

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      Have a nice day!
  4. Why are we upgrading again? by boyfaceddog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Okay, magnetic swipe cards are better than the old way of making a carbon from the raised info on the little plastic cards, but what is the advantage of an RFID credit card? I still need to get the RFID-thing out of my wallet or out of my pocket to use it. Is saving five seconds such a big deal that I wouldn't spend that five seconds in order to protect my identity?

    Upgrades for the sake of the "wow-factor" are stupid.

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    Here will be an old abusing of God's patience and the king's English.
  5. If you are innocent by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...then you have nothing to hide, right? So why are you bothering hiding your credit card from the other law abiding citizens, are you a terrorist?

  6. How they think about fraud by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a former employee of one of the credit card companies, I'd like to explain a little bit of how they think. Banks and credit card companies take fraud for granted. They have departments which analyze potential and reported fraud. They set certain thresholds which they consider acceptable. Since they know it's going to happen they study it and figure out the best way to flag accounts. To the credit card companies it makes the most financial sense to not bother with the technological blocks and catch the fraud on the tail end. For example, with smaller purchases no longer requiring a signiture, card use for small purchases has gone up. If a few percent of those purchases are fraud the banks and credit card companies don't care because in the end they're making more money. People who notice fraudulent transactions on their statements will make calls and the banks will eat the cost of the purchases. Banks who suspect fraud has taken place simply block the accounts until the card holder calls. It all works out to the benefit of the banks and credit card companies.

    So even though the credit card companies should do more to protect the information from a logical and PR perspective, they've already decided that the small potential increase in the cost of fraud is outweighed by the increased use of these cards that some people consider more convenient.

  7. Why we're moving to non-swipe cards by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I probably sound like a paranoid nut, but banks are pushing this 'touchless' card technology because we buy more when we use it. By 'we' I mean consumers. And we buy more when using plastic than when using cash. In this USAToday article - http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/credit/2006-10 -09-credit-cards-usat_x.htm - a great quote sums it up:

    Merchants, too, benefit from faster no-signature transactions, credit card companies say, because the stores can serve more customers -- resulting in higher overall sales. And "people will spend more if they come in with a card vs. cash," says Gareth Forsey of MasterCard Worldwide (MA).

    "People will spend more".

    So, if people already spend more by putting a card in a reader, it stands to reason that they'll spend even more when they don't even have to get the card out of the wallet - just wave it around in front of the reader. The speedpass technology is pretty much doing this already, and McDonald's adopted it a few years back. Obviously it was a pretty big expense for them to put the machines in, refit their networks to accomodate it, etc. Why would they do it unless it meant people were buying more? In fact, Visa's own website (http://merchants.visa.com/solutions/qsr.jsp) states that

    A recent Visa study of 100,000 QSR transactions showed that customers using payment cards spent an average of 30 percent more than those who paid with cash. Other industry studies suggest that the average spread may be even higher.

    So for everyone saying "when did we get so lazy?" and similar notions, it's not that we're lazy. We simply spend more the less psychologically painful it is to do so. If I lay down 5 $20s to do my grocery shopping, it's more painful than swiping a card, because it's not as real at that moment. When I get view my statement later, yes, it all tallies up, but there's no difference between using plastic for groceries, clothes, the movies, or anything else, even if all the prices are wildly different.

  8. Re:Hah. Screw it. by ac7xc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When there is credit card fraud the merchants get stuck with the bill and you end up paying higher prices.

  9. Re:Dumber then not signing by spectral · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Encryption isn't magic. All you've done is substitute one set of unique information for another set of unique information, the fact that the information means nothing to you doesn't change it. If I read "CastrTroy, 1234-5678-9012-3456, 12/09" from a credit card, stuck ", $1000" on the end and sent it to the credit card company, that's no different than being able to read "oinasdfomasdfpmweasdfhqervsad, $1000". The credit card company still associates that random crap with you. It's always the same, so it means nothing.

    There are ways around this, but maintaining the physical security of the card is one of the better ways. Not being able to shoot your wallet with radiation and get money back seems like a good first step.. having the data only available after physically plugging/sliding the card in to a reader AND be encrypted while still on the card (smart chip) using a public key granted to the store (so the store would be able to reproduce the data, but you wouldn't have any real information available to you to use on a different place, so all the stolen transactions are quite quickly tracked back) would be a good first start.

    There's probably flaws in that plan that I'm unaware of.. though the fact that my credit card has one of these chips and I didn't ask for it to and have no idea how to turn it off is one of the flaws, I'm suspecting. :P

  10. Re:Dumber then not signing by Alpha232 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Working in the hotel business, I handle a large number of credit cards. The trend I have seen for people wanting to "disable" the RF portion is to use a hole punch through the chip. I've seen about ten or so this past month, all have the little radio icon on the back and a hole punched right through the card. Not a bad way to do it I must say.