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Male Blood Elves Get Pumped Up

Kotaku reports that the Male Blood Elves, from the upcoming World of Warcraft expansion Burning Crusade, have been made more masculine by their Blizzard overseers. Which totally makes sense, because when I think elves I think paragons of masculinity. From the article: "You changed it because your constituency is a bunch of capslock-riding asshats who are threatened by bishy player characters. The reason Blood Elves were Horde in the first place is because everyone was whining about all the Horde races being ugly juggernauts. The point of Blood Elves was to inject some swish into a very physically intimidating set of races. They're not exactly chunky now, and I do not begrudge a game company making prerelease aesthetic changes, but their reasons for doing so are pathetic. " Before and after photos are available in their post.

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  1. congratulations, blizzard by blackcoot · · Score: 5, Funny

    you've taken characters that were previously more like sensitive, artsy types and made them look like hulk hogan in drag. bravo.

    1. Re:congratulations, blizzard by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is this news?

      Because it is so much more "news for nerds" than the info Apple posted about adding application signing, mandatory access controls, resolution independence, OpenGL 2.1, and automatic threading to use multiple cores for single threaded OpenGL applications in Leopard, that I submitted and had rejected yesterday.

    2. Re:congratulations, blizzard by hymie3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      If by "bad" you mean "blocked because it includes a link to gaygamer.net", then yes.

    3. Re:congratulations, blizzard by blackcoot · · Score: 4, Funny

      because there's a sensitive, artsy type amongst the editors that resents being forced to look like hulk hogan in drag?

      your guess is as good as mine.

    4. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      So they're like Mac users who converted to Windows?

    5. Re:congratulations, blizzard by bryanb80 · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...because Blizzard's market share is larger than Apples?

    6. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately many more people find this minor tidbit of information more interesting and relevant than a tedious discussion about program controls for a minor platform.

      A less hostile way of stating it is: to appeal to the masses you need to aim for the median, to appeal to the specialists you need to be specific.

      If you're uninterested in gaming content, you can unsubscribe from that channel in Slashdot.

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    7. Re:congratulations, blizzard by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately many more people find this minor tidbit of information more interesting and relevant than a tedious discussion about program controls for a minor platform. /i>

      Yeah. Those people are called "nerds." Oh well. I'm sure I can half-heartedly pay attention to a horribly misinformed discussion about these features in ten years, when Micrososft gets around to copying them.

    8. Re:congratulations, blizzard by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oddly, I can access gaygamer.net just fine.

            Well, isn't that just... special

      (not that there's anything wrong with that)

  2. so... by mmmmbeer · · Score: 5, Funny

    So a bunch of whiny pansies are bitching about Blizzard giving in to a bunch of whiny pansies? Will that make them change it back?

  3. "Some swish"? by Canthros · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Bishy"?

    Are we reading the rantings of some crazed slash-fiction writer? This has to be the most mind-numbingly stupid objection to a change that I've ever heard.

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    1. Re:"Some swish"? by Ironsides · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Bishy"?

      Bishy: Short for Bishounen.

      Bishounen: Japanese word translating roughly as "Pretty Boy". Used to refer to males who are very handsome/pretty and sometimes very androgynous. Wiki Link

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    2. Re:"Some swish"? by blueZhift · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Bishy"?

      This probably refers to the Japanese term, bishonen, which means "beautiful boy". Just think of Orlando Bloom who plays Legolas in the LotR movies. You'll also see this in Japanese RPGs such as the Final Fantasy series. I guess some guys are too macho to play as bishonen, eh?

    3. Re:"Some swish"? by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      In other words, if it doesn't affect you personally, you don't give a damn how other people feel.

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    4. Re:"Some swish"? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Informative

      He could have used the (somewhat) more mainstream term "Metrosexual" which means roughly the same thing, but is actually meaningful to people who don't spend half their lives watching crappy cartoons from halfway across the world.

      Anyway, the objection that the horde didn't have any "attractive" characters was/is entirely valid. That's why, IMO, the majority of servers have a lot more population on the alliance side than the horde side. Who wants to look at a tauren's ass all day when you can look at a sexy night elf's ass?

  4. *CLICK* by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 5, Insightful
    *CLICK*

    That's the sound of the WoW playerbase not giving a damn and picking whatever race gives them the best bonuses for their class. While I love Kotaku, this honestly strikes me as one of the whiniest posts I've ever read on there. Boo hoo, Blizzard "nerfed" the character model by making it buffer. While I think its high time Blizzard enable characters to alter more of their physical appearance similar to City of Heroes, I have to wonder...is this really worth posting on the front page of Slashdot?

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    1. Re:*CLICK* by Thansal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      heh. Thank you.

      This post (and the others I have seen complaining about it) just came off as silly. I decided to poke around and found some screen caps of old vs new and the new basicly just looks like a Night Elf male body. This isn't a "bad" thing. This is a "so friken what" thing.

      Combine that with the fact that your race realy is not visible startign in the mid to late game where every one has the same friken armour and the only way to guess someone's race is if they don't have a helmet displayed or if they are a friken dwarf/gnome.

      (I like the work frick.)

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  5. "constituency"? by ObjetDart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's an interesting euphemism for "customers".

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  6. One body size does not fit all by snuf23 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hate the way WoW only has one body shape per race/gender. All of the males are over muscled. I suppose that's fine for a warrior but why should a mage have biceps like Ahnold? The same goes for rogues, you can't make a slender male thief.

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    1. Re:One body size does not fit all by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention the human females all look like contestants for Miss Azeroth. I get a little worried when I see a "Heavy Mithril Breastplate" jiggling when my character runs. What do they make these thing out of? Mithril foil?

    2. Re:One body size does not fit all by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Heavy Mithril Breastplate is made out of Flex-Mithril, brought to you by Dupont.

      "Not to mention the human females all look like contestants for Miss Azeroth."

      to which I reply Thanks, and God bless Blizzard.

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    3. Re:One body size does not fit all by TheWormThatFlies · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because "can walk through a door without turning sideways" = "girly man", evidently. Aaah, comicbook aesthetics. :/ The original model wasn't buff enough? Good grief; it looks nothing like an elf -- the only way you can tell what it's supposed to be is that the ears are pointed.

      I don't play any MMORPGs, so I don't really have anything to complain about, except the principle of the thing. If I did play, I would like to have a character which is aesthetically pleasing to me. It would be nice if at least one race or class did not have men with huge muscles and women with ginormous cleavage. There are so many character types to choose from -- why do they all have to look the same? Surely there is room to have something for all tastes.

  7. Changing content based on customer feedback? by bunions · · Score: 2, Funny

    THOSE BASTARDS!

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    1. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Funny

      Make love, not Warcraft! :P

      Hmmm, "Lovecraft" a new MMORPG where you build a custom avatar (male, female, andro, or herma), dress it from our selection of fashionable apparel, and then have to build up your sexual prowess and skill by boinking everyone else and NPCs. I see a new market. Now if we can just keep it from being populated with Cthulu fans I can make a mint.

    2. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, the South Park people will have to come out with an episode called, "Make War, Not Lovecraft".

    3. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Dexx · · Score: 2, Funny

      I kept thinking that sentence had to end with ".. and see them devoured by unspeakable horrors from beyond."

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    4. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by BetterThanCaesar · · Score: 2, Funny

      You've better look out for my slutty undead mage, she'll get you with her burning ring of fire. And it burns burns burns...

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  8. I'd rather have a choice by LocoMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know, but one of the things I'd like to see improved in WoW is the "everyone has the same body type" thing, maybe sliders for how thin/muscular/fat/tall/short you want someone (with limits, of course, so that humans are always taller than dwarves, for example).

    I just think it would help set characters apart from everyone else, so you could play (for example) a fat priest like friar tuck on Robin Hood, or a thin tall albino guy like Elric of Melniboné. No idea how hard would it be to implement that, though. I'm still rather new to the game, probably would be problems scaling the armor that are actual models (instead of just different textures) when they're on the characters.

  9. you have to be kidding me by Edgewize · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a non-story. And it's rather insulting that it made it ANYWHERE let alone a major news/blog/whatever site. Who is the source? Oh, that's right, some random "offended" person at http://gaygamer.net/index.php?id=1632 who is complaining that the team behind a currently-in-production game made an art decision.

  10. Dear Blizzard, by chowdy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I feel that the female blood elves wear far too much clothing. This expresses an extreme imbalance in the WoW gameplay. It is completely unfair that male night elves may go topless, while female night elves cannot. This imbalance in gameplay must be addressed, or else i will cancel my subscription.

    Sincerely,
    Whiny Blizzard Customer

  11. SWG had a nice system by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought that Star Wars Galaxies had the best customization I've seen. WoW is a bunch of the same looking people wandering around wearing similar clothing.

    SWG had a much more diverse feel.

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    1. Re:SWG had a nice system by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should see City of Villains/Heroes. The charater customization allows you to change nearly everything including nose size, jaw size, and costumes. You can also unlock multiple costume slots so your character can have multiple looks for different moods or occasions.

    2. Re:SWG had a nice system by tourvil · · Score: 4, Insightful
      SWG had a much more diverse feel.

      Yes it did. It also lagged all to hell when you were in a slightly populated area. I wish WoW was more customizable too, but I think they did that on purpose to reduce the amount of character info that needed to be passed around to other players.
  12. femme? by illegalcortex · · Score: 4, Informative

    It just goes to show how superheroically drawn the characters are drawn when the "femme" version is more muscular than most men in the real world. I know I wish I had pecs and biceps like that... Couple more before/after pics here.

    I REALLY wish wow had better options for customizing the build/appearance of the players. I get so tired of seeing the same old faces and same old bodies. But I guess there's just no money in it.

  13. Re:If you ask me... by chrismcdirty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I played, it always seemed that the Horde were the adolescents who just wanted to play as a bad guy, all the while deriding the Alliance for choosing characters who look pretty. And that was the attitude from day -14 or so. Personally, I didn't care, as long as the stats were there for the class I chose.

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  14. *rips off yellow tank top* by BeeBeard · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Let me tell ya something...brother...the Hulkster doesn't appreciate his likeness being used without permission. Blizzard, I'm calling you out right now. You hear me? You and me, in the ring, Smackdown..."

    1. Re:*rips off yellow tank top* by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      OK Hulk, don't forget your cane...

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  15. It's fun to stay at the... by QuantaStarFire · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow. I can totally see these new Blood Elves spending all their time in the woods, lifting trees, spotting each other, getting into the shower together after a long workout and having hot, sweaty se--um, yeah.

    You gotta feel sorry for the Blood Elf women though; they can look, they can dream, but they know in their hearts that it can never be. To make things worse, they don't have the nice human gentlemen callers to fall back on; that ship sailed more than 4 years ago.

  16. Nah, go for the HP fans, it'll be a hoot! by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmmm, "Lovecraft" a new MMORPG where you build a custom avatar (male, female, andro, or herma), dress it from our selection of fashionable apparel...

    ...and then blow your first d100 roll and have your new character run screaming into the night to be devoured in a pit of Dark Young.

    Thanks for playing!

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  17. In Other News... by dthx1138 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Valve announced today that the wood texture on the AK-47 in Counterstrike will be made slightly darker.

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  18. Re:Some real problems in this article by HybridJeff · · Score: 2, Informative
    "Two things: first off, there's no such race. This is a race which will first appear in 2008 when the expansion is released. It does not exist at all now, so I'm not sure where you're getting this information about the population distribution of BEs...."

    FYI The expansion is scheduled for release at the end of January 2007 (the 22nd I believe). If you count the Beta servers (invite only) Blood Elves actually do exist in the game now. THat said, it will still be a few months untill they hit retail.

  19. Perhaps it's been done for a reason? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 2, Funny

    To match the "pumped-up" right arms of all the teenage male Kotaku reading WoW players?

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  20. Want to see a Twig? by Bryansix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Look at the Dark Elves in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. My character is like a twig. He has less muscle mass then me in real life and that is saying something.

  21. Re:Some real problems in this article by rk · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Two things: first off, there's no such race. This is a race which will first appear in 2008 when the expansion is released."

    Did you know that WoW is based on previous Blizzard RTS games?

    Blood Elves in all their glory... introduced in Warcraft III, way back in 2003.

    Nobody gives a damn about history anymore, even in made-up worlds.

  22. Most likely a technical decision. by Kaboom13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real reason behind this probably has little to do with player demands. Wow has always been plagued with horrible clipping and armor fitting problems. Many of the issues are still around from release. Most likely Blizz realized geting the male armor models to fit the extremely skinny blood elves correctly was going to be difficult. Male BE are now almost identical to male Night elves. I actually support the change, however, because Warcraft elves (before and after their change to blood elves) were thinner then normal humans but never the impossibly thin elves of some fantasy worlds. The new elves look a lot more like the elves in warcraft 3 imo.