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30 Years of Public Key Cryptography

An anonymous reader writes "Public key crypto turned 30 last night, and the biggest names in crypto turned out to celebrate at an event hosted at the Computer History Museum. Voltage Security teamed with RSA to bring together some of the most famous cryptographers of yesterday (Whitfield Diffie and Martin Hellman) and today (Dan Boneh), along with luminaries Ray Ozzie, Brian Snow, and Jim Bidzos. From the ZDNet article: 'NYT reporter John Markoff, who has covered Silicon Valley for 30 years, was master of ceremonies, and started off by saying that no technology has had a more profound impact than cryptography, and that public-key cryptography has been underappreciated for its role in the Internet. Without public key cryptography, ecommerce would be an idea as opposed to an enabler of billions of daily transactions.' You can view the podcast and pictures of the event at the Voltage Security site.."

83 comments

  1. Celebration! by krell · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's celebrate the anniversary! Party at d$3vF434. $D%f$sdsN4. Don't miss it!

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    1. Re:Celebration! by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 1

      The magic address is Squeamish Ossifrage.

  2. Damn! by elronxenu · · Score: 1
    Can't make sense of it - what's the passphrase?

  3. When cryptography is outlawed, by Myself · · Score: 2, Funny

    bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

    (If you do a run of stickers with that on them, kindly tell me, and I'll buy some from you.)

    1. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm confused. Would you prefer the stickers to be printed with the rot13 or the cleartext?

      PS: Either way, me too! ;)

    2. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by laejoh · · Score: 0

      Let's hope noone will sue me because of the dmca.

      It's a simple substitution cypher:

      a -> n

      b -> o

      c -> p

      e -> r

      f -> s

      g -> t

      h -> u

      i -> v

      j -> w

      l -> y

      n -> a

      p -> c

      r -> e

      v -> l

      y -> l

      Fun to decrypt with frequency analysis, specially because the most frequent 'e' is only used once :)

    3. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're one of those guys who uses trigonometry to prove that 2+2=4, aren't you?

    4. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by laejoh · · Score: 0

      Well, if we define true as one, then: cos 2pi

    5. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Anybody who is *still* wondering what this is, there is a leetkey plugin for firefox that can "decrypt" such messages for you:

      https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/770/

    6. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by Andrew+Kismet · · Score: 1

      You're not using Firefox 2? Shame on you!

    7. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever heard of "rot13"?

    8. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by TheUnknownCoder · · Score: 1

      Damn! I just used my last mod point. Otherwise I'd mod you up Informative... I really like this little plugin!!!

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    9. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by Progoth · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're not using Nightly Tester Tools with Firefox 2? Shame on you!

      (for the uninformed, NTT allows you to easily install extensions that are only marked for compatibility with older FF versions)

    10. Re:When cryptography is outlawed, by chgros · · Score: 1

      You can even do this with a bookmarklet.

  4. 30th birthday of what exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So, is this the 30th anniversary of the public discovery of public key cryptography or the 30th anniversary of the official (publicised) date on which Clifford Cox and co secretly discovered it for a very non-public organisation?

    1. Re:30th birthday of what exactly? by Al+Dimond · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wikipedia says that Diffie and Hellman published their work in 1976, and that the earlier secret work was going on in the early 70s. So it looks like they're talking about the public discovery, assuming both that Wikipedia is correct and that I can add small numbers in my head accurately.

    2. Re:30th birthday of what exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, public key cryptography was first discovered by Clifford Cox (of the British GCHQ) in 1973 (in contrast, RSA was invented in 1977 according to wikipedia). But, because Cox' research was kept secret until long after RSA had become mainstream it did nothing to advance cryptographic research. Same applies to the first computer - We now know that Colossus was the first computer [1] and not Eniac, but since Eniac was not kept secret it literally became the grandfather of all computers in spite of Colossus; because, lets face it, Colossus has nothing to do with the linage of computers we have today. Sure, the britts were first but because of their lack of vision and secrecy, they may always be remembered as the "mee too"-guy.

      [1] Actuallly, some claim a German beat them to the punch.

      I assure you I'm not American. I just feel the Americans deserve a hell of a lot more credit for this stuff because without RSA we might never have gotten public key cryptography. IIRC Clifford Cox's work was only made public because RSA became widely known.

    3. Re:30th birthday of what exactly? by pthisis · · Score: 1

      I just feel the Americans deserve a hell of a lot more credit for this stuff because without RSA we might never have gotten public key cryptography

      Diffie/Hellman/Merkle's work was pointing the way; I have to think public-key would've happened in relatively short order (within 5-10 years) without RSA.

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  5. first papers on PKC by ei4anb · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It was a fun time.

    I was a math undergrad interested in large prime numbers and numerical computing when the first hints on what RS&A were doing came out in Scientific American. At that time I had only 3 years programming experience and it was a big thrill to get a public key crypto email system working (first in Pascal on a DEC-20) but I only distributed it to a small group as the university was not yet on the Internet.

    I told the story to PZ at a conference about 8 years ago and we had a good laugh wondering how things might have developed differently had that program been distributed on Usenet by someone outside the USA!

    1. Re:first papers on PKC by coderpunk · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Was PZ at this event? PGP did more than anything to bring public key crypto into the mainstream.

  6. May be older than 30 years old by Yahma · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Historians of science will certainly spend time sorting out the various claims. David Kahn, the author of the best selling history The Codebreakers, said that he recently asked the National Security Agency to declassify some documents so he could write the proper history of public key cryptography. He said an NSA staff member told him, "I've spoken to the guys who did this, but they don't want to be interviewed now." This suggests that the NSA also may have discovered public-key systems or had a hand in exploring them. Kahn hopes that the NSA will follow in Britain's lead so an accurate history can be written.

    It is likely that the NSA discovered public key Cryptography in the late 60's or early 70's. Public Key Cryptography may be as old as 40 years old at this point, but without clarification from the NSA, we will never be certain.


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    1. Re:May be older than 30 years old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. Public key cryptography was first discovered in EhZO032Kk3o4IfJ= by the NSA!

    2. Re:May be older than 30 years old by LandruBek · · Score: 1

      You're both right. Actually the party was supposed to celebrate "Public public key cryptography" but someone's word processor along the way saw the repeated word and took it out... :-)

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  7. 30 years eh? by onetwofour · · Score: 1

    Time for it's mid life crisis then, well with the UK Government wanting all our keys soon then it's nice and apt.

  8. No technology with a more profound impact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
    no technology has had a more profound impact than cryptography

    I hear that the wheel had quite an impact. Oh yeah and the steam engine. Not fogetting the printing press. Or even plastic. Seriously, do they even think before parroting this nonsense?
    1. Re:No technology with a more profound impact? by lheal · · Score: 1

      The transistor, Unix, and PERL, probably each had as big an impact as PKC.

      Insipid journalists.

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    2. Re:No technology with a more profound impact? by jcmb · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If PKC isn't as important as you say it is, then why do we have a multibillion dollar agency (which hires the most brilliant mathematicians and computer scientists in the country) almost entirely devoted to cryptography? Plus, it's illegal for us to use certain key sizes because the NSA considers it to be a weapon!

      PKC and other forms of cryptography are extremely important and vital to the success of NATIONS. Plus, imagine how hard it would be to communicate over the Internet without PKC, you'd have to syncronize keys with the second party all the time!

    3. Re:No technology with a more profound impact? by lheal · · Score: 1

      I know cryptography is important. But it's like saying the lock is more important than the house, or keyed ignition more important than internal combustion.

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    4. Re:No technology with a more profound impact? by Gandalf_the_Beardy · · Score: 1

      They'd be screwed without electricity though. Mind you governments managed without that as well.

  9. GCHQ in 1973! by spoonist · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:GCHQ in 1973! by leob · · Score: 1

      Right, and Native Americans invented the wheel.

      At GCHQ, they did not understand the importance of it.

    2. Re:GCHQ in 1973! by stevey · · Score: 1
      At GCHQ, they did not understand the importance of it.

      I think if they hadn't understood the importance of it they wouldn't have kept it classified.

    3. Re:GCHQ in 1973! by Sanity · · Score: 1
      At GCHQ, they did not understand the importance of it.
      Even if that were true, and I see no evidence to suggest that it is, it still wouldn't change the fact that they invented it first.
    4. Re:GCHQ in 1973! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Did you know...
      "GCHQ employs more mathematicians than the average university maths faculty?


      And fewer English majors than the average Englishes faculty.

    5. Re:GCHQ in 1973! by shma · · Score: 1

      I would suspect that they are celebrating the 30 year anniversary of PKC being available to the general public. Still, it is only fair to credit the original inventors.

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    6. Re:GCHQ in 1973! by leob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've attended the meeting, I've seen that evidence. The GCHQ articles on PKC had quite dismissive titles.

    7. Re:GCHQ in 1973! by leob · · Score: 1

      All their notes are classified by default. They did not bother to declassify it.

  10. Missed opportunity by agent+dero · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    the biggest names in crypto turned out to celebrate at an event hosted at the Computer History Museum.

    I'm disappointed that our government missed this key opportunity to ensure their surveillance will go forward willout having to deal with that silly "encryption" and such ;)

    Then again, maybe on that note, we can organize a "Islamic Fundamentalist Luncheon" and let some mob-folk "take care of things."

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    1. Re:Missed opportunity by starfishsystems · · Score: 1
      The cat's already out of the bag, lad.

      The real "missed opportunitity", if you think of it as such, was from the middle of the last century in Bletchley Park and elsewhere. That's when cryptography and computer science started to come together.

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  11. OB Star Trek Reference by notnAP · · Score: 1

    So, then, by the book, crypto has only been around for, what, 30 hours?

  12. Great to see Ray Ozzie in that list. by CFD339 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A lot of people seem to forget that one of the first really widespread products that end users in corporations used that fully integrated public/private key encryption was Lotus Notes. I started using it in 1991, but I believe as early as 1989 it was functionally part of the product.

    Sure, others used it before then, but in terms of a widely used corporate end user audience, it was (and still is to some extent) unique.

    Yes, you may now rag on Notes if you like -- of course, keep in mind it remains the only real solution for a major corporation that by public key authentication and encryption by default, has a fully functional smtp mta built in, handles the front end needs of end users well enough for salespeople (not like a typical pop or imap client) and of course, fully supports linux as a server platform (and within a few months as a client platform as well). :-)

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    1. Re:Great to see Ray Ozzie in that list. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1
      Yes, you may now rag on Notes if you like -- of course, keep in mind it remains the only real solution for a major corporation that by public key authentication and encryption by default

      Like many other good ideas I believe it was given a bad reputation by the lusers who invested their careers in notes as a platform for everything.

      Once standardisation sets in notes becomes a reason not to do stuff, or at least not to bother trying.

  13. No Zimmerman? Where was the real party? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No Zimmerman? Where was the real party?

  14. Actually I'm SURE it is by Cougem · · Score: 1

    When I was at school we saw a film on crytography saying a British mathematician had come up with the idea before it had been published to the public by a fairy long time. It was for government use though, and so very classified.
    Can anyone back this up? I definitely remember watching the film, and feeling very sorry for the poor bloke who got basically nothing for his idea.

    1. Re:Actually I'm SURE it is by h2g2bob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA) says it was first invented by Clifford Cocks at good ol' GCHQ. I also read that somewhere in a book, so it's probably right.

  15. Re:No Zimmerman? Where was the real party? by danielsz · · Score: 1

    PGP nostalgia?

  16. eCommerce possible without public key crypto by Roger_Wilco · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't like to take away from their excellent work, but it is possible, though inconvenient, to do private-key crypto for such things.

    Your bank, for example, would need to [paper] mail you a private key to type into your machine (or give you a thumbdrive with it, whatever you like). Inconvenient, yes; you'd need a new key for each company you interact with. Probably it would encourage a few monopolies (amazon and eBay) to dominate, since you'd only need to interact with them by paper once. But not impossible.

    1. Re:eCommerce possible without public key crypto by wkk2 · · Score: 1

      For most transactions, you only really need a private key shared with your credit card provider.
      Merchants could do the same and the problem is mostly solved without a PKI. We still might need to do this anyway.
      One time tokens anyone?

    2. Re:eCommerce possible without public key crypto by TheUser0x58 · · Score: 1

      would need to [paper] mail you a private key

      This would not work at all, because someone could easily intercept your mail at the mailbox, post office, etc. Sending plaintext by snail mail is just as secure as sending plaintext over the net, i.e. its not.

      For this to be secure you would probably have to go and pick up your private key at the bank yourself.

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    3. Re:eCommerce possible without public key crypto by daverabbitz · · Score: 1

      Well how do you get your password for online banking.

      It's (snail)mailed out to you, then you login and change it.

      I don't see the difference between this and mailing you a key.

      And yes i know them mailing personal authentication data to you is horrendously insecure, but that's not the point.

      The real advantage to PKI is that you can set up the encryption prior to the exchange of authentication data, which makes application design much easier.

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    4. Re:eCommerce possible without public key crypto by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      That's not exactly how it works, there are two keys one private (bank) and one public (customer). The public key does not need to be a secret since it can't be used to decrypt the message only encrypt it. The "one way" math function is based on the difficulty of factorising large numbers (thus all the interest in large primes). Having a one way function is why PKE is different to other forms of encryption, it means you don't have the problem of distributing a single secret key.

      Eg: SSL uses public key encryption and you don't need a "new key on a bit of paper" for each store. Note that SSL only makes the communication secure, you still need the credit card details to buy stuff.

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  17. No OpenSSH developers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why didn't they invite theo de raadt, responsible for getting ssh into the mainstream?

  18. Wrong Date by gilgongo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Public key encryption was invented in 1973 at GCHQ in Britain.

    I suppose the commercial victors get to (re)-write the history books then.

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    1. Re:Wrong Date by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      Yes. Publish or perish.

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  19. How many use it? by steevc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've had a public key for a few years and have cross-signed keys of a few people I know, but most do not encrypt or even sign their emails despite knowing the insecurities of email. I'm surprised that it is not used more commercially, but I have never had a signed or encrypted email at work and that often involves commercially sensitive information.

    Could it be that encryption is still to complex for most people?

    I will continue to encrypt emails to those I know can handle it and will sign others.

    1. Re:How many use it? by cryfreedomlove · · Score: 1

      You are right that it is not in common use for emails. However, the fact that it is there and available for private individuals is comforting to me.

    2. Re:How many use it? by SLi · · Score: 1

      It's not very common with e-mail (and that makes me sad), but it's very common in WWW. Every time you access a https-URL you use public key cryptography.

    3. Re:How many use it? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Do you do any online banking? Have you ever bought anything from a web site? If you have, then you have used HTTP tunnelled over SSL. SSL is an example of public key cryptography.

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  20. stop spoiling the Americans party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny


    oh come on everyone knows the Americans cracked the Enigma code and single handedly beat the Germans in WW2, invented the steam engine, electricity, telephones, TV and are the World champions of baseball and football !

    GO USA #1 *

    *not applicable in 191 countries

  21. implementations? by xmodem_and_rommon · · Score: 1

    Can you please point me to either a free email client that is easy enough to use and has a decent interface? Or a plugin for an existting one, that supports this? I'd be very interested in doing this (although I don't know anyone who has the technical capacity to figure out how to read it that wouldn't just ask me to send it unencrypted)

    1. Re:implementations? by lifebouy · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:implementations? by xmodem_and_rommon · · Score: 1

      That list looks a bit outdated. Netscape mail, but no thunderbird? At this stage i'm using Mac OS X Mail as my mail client, but the GPGMail site says: "GPGMail is a complete hack, relying on Mail's private internal API. Use it at your own risks!" From the number of times ive almost lost large portions of my email because of Mail's less-than-ideal database sytem, i'd rather not risk it. Plus the screenshots are obviously from like OSX.1 o2 X.2. Although the last updated date is fairly recent. I might ry it out on another user. -Richard

    3. Re:implementations? by starfishsystems · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're talking about S/MIME, it's standard in most mailers. How about Thunderbird, Evolution, or even Microsoft Outlook?

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  22. In another 30 years... by jonwil · · Score: 1

    Hopefully in 30 years from now, we will live in a world where encrypting email, IM conversations, personal documents and anything else that you would rather not be public becomes something everyday people do and not something that "geeks" do.
    Hopefully we see a world where the major email clients (including Thunderbird/Seamonkey) come with easy to use email encryption out of the box.
    Hopefully we see a world where your communications and data are safe from people you would rather didnt see them (black-hat hackers, identity thieves, your worst enemy, your boss, the RIAA etc etc)

    1. Re:In another 30 years... by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      I suspect that what might work without overhauling SMTP completely (and this is very much a blue sky idea).

      1a) Mail servers that start caching SSH-style public keys for servers that they talk to. Then encrypt the transport between the two servers. There are definitely MITM attacks that could be mounted, but the outbound MTA might simply keep track of key-changed events in the log files. Let the admins worry about it, if they do.

      1b) IPSec with opportunistic encryption for encrypting the transport. Maybe you get DNS (or secure DNS) involved for proving the validity of the public keys. Or maybe you take a page out of the SSH playbook and simply tell the user that the mail may not have been delivered to the system that we think it should've been delivered.

      2) Mail clients that create a public key and hand it the POP3/IMAP server. Then the server could simply encrypt the message files as they get written to the disk using the user's public key. This runs into all sorts of issues (no web-access to your mail folder, difficulting in retrieving e-mail with another e-mail client, lost e-mail if you lose your private key). So I don't know how well that would work out in principle (probably not well).

      Personally, I think securing the SMTP link is probably the most realistic. Paranoid MTA admins could decide that all keys have to be pre-validated before e-mail can be delivered to the remote system. The rest of us could simply accept the small risk of MITM and watch our log files for keys that change. Or check our destination keys against public lists of server keys (sort of a reputation service).

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    2. Re:In another 30 years... by jonwil · · Score: 2, Informative

      You dont need to make it that complex.
      Essentially, if the recipiant supports encryption, the recipiants public key is pulled from a key server. Then, the email client encrypts it using something similar to PGP or GPG. Something thats standard enough that anyone can implement it.
      At the other end, it is decrypted by the mail client using the recipiants private key.
      All that the servers in the middle see is an encrypted email (same as they would see if you encrypted an email right now with PGP or GPG or whatever). The servers dont need to know about the encryption or be changed in any way.

      No issues with being able to access the email from anywhere, as long as you have your private key, any email client with the right encryption support would be able to decrypt the email (including web based email clients if you were willing to trust uploading your private key to a https:/// server run by whoever provides your email)

      And with this, mail servers (and mail server admins) never see the unencrypted email.

      Assuming the key management is good enough (i.e. that you can trust that who the system says owns the key actually owns it), it can also be used to verify that the sender is who they say thay are.

      The downside is the need to en- and de-crypt on the client side which might be an issue for some embedded applications (although these days most mobile phones, PDAs and the like that have internet/email generally have web browsers that understand SSL and if they have the CPU to handle SSL, they can probobly handle encrypted email)

  23. 30 Years of *Public* Public Key Cryptography by szyzyg · · Score: 1

    We all know public key cryptography was a secret for many years before it became public. Officially GCHQ got there first.

  24. John Markoff by Progoth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is this the same John Markoff that got Kevin Mitnick thrown in jail for lying about him in the New York Times?

  25. The evils of public-key cryptography by Myria · · Score: 3, Informative

    For all the legitimate uses of public-key cryptography, I seem to think that most uses of it are bad. I see the Xbox, Xbox 360, Vista, Leopard and Tivo using public-key cryptography for nothing but removing the authority of computer owners to decide what software they run on their computer. I see VeriSign getting rich off the VeriSign Tax.

    I personally think that it would be far better to make use of shared-secret systems for when you need communication security, like logging onto banks. The solution to phishing is clearly to use a shared secret system, because things like IE7's anti-phishing filtering can be worked around. SRP6 is great, but unfortunately that is based on public-key technology (though doesn't actually involve a public key, like Diffie-Hellman).

    I hope that someday it is proven that public-key cryptography cannot be securely attached to an NP-complete problem, and that either a fast discrete logarithm algorithm (*) is found or quantum computers take off.

    (*) A fast solution to the discrete logarithm problem implies a fast solution to integer factorization.

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    1. Re:The evils of public-key cryptography by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      My mind boggles at your comment.

      "most uses of it are bad."
      You must have a different definiton of "most" from the rest of us.

      DRM can be implemented using either symmetric or public key crypto.

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    2. Re:The evils of public-key cryptography by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      How about SSL? Does the fact that millions of credit card transactions occurring over the internet are protect by public-key tech not register for you?

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  26. Overstatement by iamacat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Without public key cryptography, ecommerce would be an idea as opposed to an enabler of billions of daily transactions.

    Hardly. Phone conversations are not encrypted and can be/are intercepted, yet phone commerce is commonplace. Even in-person credit card purchases are hardly secure and there are a number of websites that do e-commerce without encryption. Without public key cryptography, more attention would be paid to security of the path between your ISP and the vendor. Websites could also have you set up username and password over a more secure channel and then use plain symmetrical encryption for the actual purchase.

  27. No Schneier, Zimmermann, etc? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    As important as Zimmermann is, Schneier's a must have. Also no Rivest, Shamir or Adleman? It sounds like a party for management by management.


    Sigh ...

  28. Barriers to use of email encryption by Sloppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Complexity may be an issue, but I think it's a relatively minor one.

    The biggest issue is that people simply really just don't care. When I try to advocate this stuff to laymen, by far the most common comment I hear is "So what if someone reads my email?" Most people don't think email privacy is worth protecting. Yes, even despite the news stories in the last few years (i.e. the government really is reading your email; it's not just a paranoid crackpot theory anymore).

    Another issue is something that has actually gotten worse in the last 10 years. Webmail is very popular. It's nearly impossible to do email encryption correcting using webmail instead of "real" (e.g. POP or IMAP) mail. You either have to trust a foreign system with your keys, or you have to have so much non-web-intelligence running inside the web browser (e.g. a Java applet or something) that it isn't really webmail anymore. And even if you make it sophisticated enough to run on the web browser, you lose one of the major advantages of webmail: checking your email from anywhere, including untrusted machines. (The only way to do it then, is for the user to do the crypto inside their head instead of using a computer.) It's a mess and it just can't be done right. As long as people want webmail, as long as they see it as a good thing instead of a bad thing, they can't have good encryption. (Well, unless they are the admin of the web server. e.g. One person at Google could conceivably use gmail as a secure webmail system. ;-)

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  29. Thanks for (holding back) encryption, RSA! by iansmith · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Without public key cryptography, ecommerce would be an idea as opposed to an enabler of billions of daily transactions.

    And without the patent on public-key encryption that covered not just the method but the very idea of it, we might all have secured communications by now. But instead we are not much further ahead except for ssh which at least helps network admins.

    I just have a hard time cheering for RSA which did nothing other than patent a mathematical formula discovered by multiple people and prevent it's dfree use in America and other countries that allow software patents.

    I was using PGP back in the early 90's and was frustrated that it's use was hamstrung by the patent and US laws on exporting encryption software. What a waste.

    1. Re:Thanks for (holding back) encryption, RSA! by mochan_s · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm wrong but there are other ways of doing asymmetrical encryption schemes (elliptic functions in Galois fields) that are not patent encumbered.

      Maybe there was no will to develop it?

    2. Re:Thanks for (holding back) encryption, RSA! by iansmith · · Score: 1

      The patent covered those methods too. In fact, it covered ANY implementation of public key encrypyion no matter what kind of math was involved, even if teh math had not yet been invented.

      Don't you just love software patents?

  30. 30 years - are you sure ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Public Key Cryptography was developed by the the British back in the 60's. The only reason that you Americans did not notice was that either they can keep a secret.

  31. The Dark Side of Cryptography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's probably a good time to reflect on the public key cryptography patents.

    These shut down public key cryptography work for a long time. It wasn't until those wretched patents expired that internet commerce finally took off. And what have we seen with every other patent since then? People avoid them until it expires. The best patent owners can do is 'submarine' them, a la Unisys.

    Rivest, Shamir or Adleman should go down in history as a group of assholes who were at the leading end of the malicious patent trade. When those guys die, I'll be sure to visit their graves and piss on them. Well, Rivest at the very least.

  32. Re:No Zimmerman? Where was the real party? by dodobh · · Score: 1

    He was there in an encrypted form.

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    I can throw myself at the ground, and miss.