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Munich Migrating To Linux

Rockgod writes with a progress report on the open sourcing of the city of Munich's administration. From the article: "The capital of Bavaria plans to complete its current migration of more than 80 percent of its desktop systems by 2008 and says that the first users of open software in the city's administration are pleased with the initial results. On Tuesday, Munich's mayor Christine Strobel said at the Systems trade fair that 'up to now, we are very happy about the results' of the migration currently underway. 'I am not a computer geek, but I must admit that it was easy to switch to the new software,' she reported. By the end of the year, some 200 workstations... will be running on a special LiMux client. If everything runs according to schedule, most of the approximately 14,000 PCs will be migrated to open source in the next two years."

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  1. You are going to regret it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    now the poor souls miss out on all that upcoming Vista goodness.

  2. Does it have solitare? by daeg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Officer workers don't care what their system has as long as it can run (a) solitare and (b) popcap games.

    Particularly government workers.

  3. Munich? Open Source? Free? by Kanaka+Kid · · Score: 5, Funny
    Oktoberfest will never be the same!

    Free Beer!

  4. It depends upon the requirements of the government by khasim · · Score: 4, Informative
    With so many distributions out there, how does a government decide upon which one to deploy?

    First off, they have to state what their requirements are. Just as with any other project.

    Then they look at what is out there and how closely it matches those requirements and how much time/money would be needed to fill in the gaps. Munich decided to go with a Debian base with KDE and OpenOffice.org.

    One of Munich's requirements seems to have been to become "independent of monopolists like Microsoft." In this, Debian's social contract would have been a major plus.

  5. Increase home adoptance of linux? by Salvance · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Over the next few years as we see more governments organizations (and some schools) moving to desktop Linux solutions, I think we'll see a corresponding upswing in home use. Maybe massive citywide conversions like Munich's will be the catalyst that the desktop Linux market needs to gain traction. For the everyday user, if they use Linux at work, they'll probably want to use Linux at home ... assuming they can get a distro that's easy enough to install and maintain.

    I'm sure it's been discussed, but I think the risk of losing home users is the real impetus behind Microsoft basically giving away software to schools, and offering STEEP discounts to governments.

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  6. My favorite line of this article by MassEnergySpaceTime · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "I am not a computer geek, but I must admit that it was easy to switch to the new software."

    It's lines like these that give Linux more promise and hopefully brings out the "If they can switch, so can we" line of thinking among others.

    Conversely, I'm sure Microsoft HATES lines like these.

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  7. Eventually. by khasim · · Score: 4, Informative
    For the everyday user, if they use Linux at work, they'll probably want to use Linux at home ... assuming they can get a distro that's easy enough to install and maintain.

    But the problem with home use is NOT about being easy to "install and maintain".

    Home users tend to stick with whatever was pre-installed. Once you have a city using Linux, there is a financial incentive for OEM's to build boxes with 100% Linux friendly hardware and a nice recovery CD with all the Linux drivers on it. After all, a city buys a lot of computers and parts over the years.

    But that's just the base platform. That still doesn't address the apps (games) that the home users will want to run. So the market will ... slowly ... be changing. As grandma gets her Linux computer with Internet access, email, web browsing and basic photo editing (look at my lovely grandchildren), more ISV's will attempt to sell software to her.

    I'm on 100% Ubuntu Edgy Eft and it handles everything that the average home user would do with the exception of games and certain IE-only websites.
  8. Chicago's migration is from Solaris by jesterzog · · Score: 4, Informative

    From here, regarding Chicago:

    The city's infrastructure had historically been a multi-platform environment that included about 100 Solaris servers used to run a large number of Oracle databases and applications. As these servers neared the end of their life cycles the City of Chicago began the migration to cost-effective Red Hat solutions.

    Given that they're migrating their Solaris server boxes rather than Windows desktop workstations (as seems to be happening in Munich), I'm not sure if it's quite the same thing.

  9. I can't believe... by xor.pt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't believe how wrong they got the client name! ...LiMux?!

    How about Munix? Doesn't it sound a lot better?

  10. Re:Too long...!! by vivek7006 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why is it taking too long? Isn't this information about 2 or 3 years old? I thought they had completed the migration.

    They decided to go with Gentoo Linux couple of years back. They are still waiting for the damn thing to finish compiling

  11. ffs by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They have migrated less than 200 work stations. Can we wait till the project actually approaches completion before deciding upon its success

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  12. München not Munich by andersh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except Germans call their city München and not Munich.

    Oh, and there is no 'k'-sound in the proper german pronounciation.

  13. Re:common place by donaldm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually you have hit on the major reason why Linux is not popular in many Business because "it is not like Windows". The real problem with Linux is while it can happily inter-operate with nearly all distributions of Linux and Unix, *nix OS's don't inter-operate well with MS Windows, due to fact that MS Windows does not have open formats while Linux not only has open formats it also has its source open for all to see. Unfortuantely the desktop will always be the hardest to migrate since many Business are very conservative, the lead to the acceptance of the Linux desktop will come first from Government.

    The slow but steady adoption of Linux by Governments in Europe and Asia is not due to them being altruistic but pragmatic since the openness of the Linux (or all *nix) formats makes a great deal of sense and they are under scrutiny by their electorates and opposition (unless it is a dictatorship and then anything anti US business is acceptable) to cut costs. Once enough Government groups move to Linux, business and eventually the home user will follow.

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