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Testosterone Tumbling in American Males

An anonymous reader writes "Yahoo is running a story about a study that concludes that testosterone levels are falling across all age groups among American men. It says 'The testosterone-fueled American male may be losing his punch'" I leave it to you all to draw your conclusions about this, but I still wonder what my hours of laptop-fu does to me.

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  1. Testicular cancer by Skiron · · Score: 5, Informative

    Having being diagnosed, and having surgery and chemotherapy for this (like Lance Armstrong et al), there is a worrying trend. There is no known cause of this cancer scientifically proved, but after getting this cancer, and speaking 'hear say' to consultants, doctors. etc. one theory is that estrogen (oestrogen), the female hormone, is being dumped into the environment from products (baby products, nappies etc.). This chemical doesn't break down in nature - so drinking water, cows milk, fish, meat... all contain this bumped chemical up that would not otherwise be there. Too see how bad it is, there are even scientific reports of fish changing sex in estrogen rich rivers - do a google on this. This is not a subject to laugh at.

  2. Cure ... by foobsr · · Score: 3, Informative

    As a web-page of NYUMC suggests, Tai Chi may be of help.

    Quote: Enhanced Endocrine and Immune System
    One study found that tai chi was associated with increased blood levels of a number of hormones, including thyroid hormone, testosterone, and estradiol. Another study found that tai chi was associated with an increased number of T cells (cells involved in the immune response).


    CC.

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  3. Re:Any link to... by Frangible · · Score: 5, Informative

    Quite probably, yes. Adipose cells make an enzyme called aromatase, which converts testosterone into estrogen for the fat cell's use. (estrogen actually makes fat more metabolically active, so it's not really a bad thing per se) This, however, has the effect of lowering free testosterone in the body as a whole. If you lose fat, your testosterone levels WILL increase.

    However, keep in mind humans are the only animal species that actually get overall, most of their testosterone from DHEA rather than free testosterone in the blood. In addition to stimulating androgen receptors directly, DHEA is also metabolized by local tissues into testosterone (and estrogen) as needed. So free testosterone is one part of the picture. Androgen receptor sensitivity and density also matter, but I'm uncertain as to what factors dynamically affect those in adults.

  4. Re:lack of excercise and obesity AND PLASTICS by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 3, Informative
    Common plastics used to package convenience foods have estrogenic side-effects.

    Indeed, polycarbonate - which is in pretty much everything - is made from a chemical originally used as a synthetic estrogen, bisphenol A. Bisphenol A will leech from polycarbonate food or drink containers, especially ones cleaned with very hot water, or with bleach. (Some plastics are safer: #1 PETE, #2 HDPE are fairly safe from leaching and are easy to recycle, #4 LDPE and #5 PP are also said to be safe for food storage.)

    Many other chemical pollutants are also xenoestrogens. And there's also the widespread use of hormones in animal farming, as well as medical uses which means excess amounts being urinated out and ending up in the water supply.

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  5. Re:Obvious Reson by lewp · · Score: 3, Informative

    Are you suggesting that I'm fapping my way to femininity?

    Makes sense.

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  6. Another real reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    "... the brain's response to all the negative pressures of using testosterone. I mean the aggressive male is in decline."

    The other possibility is the males' levels of testosterone are dropping because they are biologically less able to produce it than they were in the 1980s. The Testosterone level in a male goes in parallel to his level of zinc intake. If you are a male who is zinc deficient, you are going to lack testosterone too. A decline of zinc in the American food supply or a changing American diet which contains less zinc rich foods like beef is going to lower the males' average testosterone level. Low zinc levels causes anorexia in females, which also seems to have worsened since the 1980s.
  7. Re:Obvious Reson by chgros · · Score: 3, Informative

    What whith the ubiquity of pr0n, avaliable readily for free and without embarrassment on the Intarweb Tubes, the testosterone no longer has a chance to build up in the male body.
    Interesting? You don't ejaculate testosterone, you know. I'm no specialist, but I don't see why there would be a "build up".

  8. Phasing out of the macho Western male by VanessaE · · Score: 3, Informative
    Amazing as it may seem, I actually RTFA, and I can't say I believe the study to be particularly accurate (too wide of an age range, baseline measures taken too recently, too small and too localized of a sample, etc), but that's not why I decided to resond to this. Rather, I'm responding to Kim du Toit's essay (the article YonderWay pointed to). My step-father is the very model of the macho hard-liner type that's seemingly called for in the essay, and he is, by far, NOT the sort of man this world needs more of. I call BULLSHIT on the entire essay, save for one or two positive things (opening doors for a lady is never a bad thing), and almost every man that Toit claims responded to him in agreement.


    Toit mentions wanting to take a .45 to his TV every time he sees some particular Cheerios commercial, just because it takes a tone of the father correcting his nutritional mistakes at his wife's suggestion. He then goes on to make nasty remarks about how he sees the gay community as trying to change the overall male population into something more woman-friendly. I couldn't stomach too much more of that essay, and gave up trying to pick out other good examples of his point of view. I believe in free speech, but as far as I'm concerned, you can take that be-a-"real"-man-and-fuck-everyone-else's-feelings attitude - and anything like it - and shove it as far up your ass at it'll go. That attitude has done nothing but hurt people, myself included, and that's where I draw the line on freedom of speech.

    I am the wife of one such "pussified" (as Toit puts it) man. My husband has diabetes and many of the usual complications that come with it, one of which is low testosterone (less than half the "normal" amount). You know what? I'm GLAD his attitude is the way it is. If anything, the reduced testosterone level has served to soften the hard shell he says he used to have. He's well aware of my feelings as well as his own, and he's not afraid to show them. He loves me deeper than words can describe, and I love him equally. He loves nature, cares about his and my health, and...well, you get the idea. I don't expect I'd find any of this in the macho type Toit is trying to rally.

    The way I figure it, the average Slashdot user is getting close to that time in their lives when they feel the desire to find a mate and maybe start a family. For the group of you folks who fall in line with Toit's attitude, face this fact: After hundreds of years of you men telling us women to shut up and get in line, your type is being phased out, whether you like it or not. The world does not need your crap anymore, nor does it need the sterotypical southern belle attitude some women used to have, either. Rather, all need to move away from the extremes toward some common, middle ground where men AND women can be happy.

  9. Re:Logical conclusion by JourneyExpertApe · · Score: 3, Informative

    The terms were defined as such to resolve ambiguity back in the 19th century to better describe intersexed, homosexual, and transsexual people.

    Way to "revise" history. The usage of the word gender to describe someone's personality as opposed to their biological sex was invented in the middle of the 20th century. It is technical jargon used by social scientists and psychologists. I'm really tired of seeing people "corrected" when they use gender as a synonym for sex. When the the Merriam-Webster Dictionary lists "sex" as a definition, it's good enough for me. Stop trying to impose what you were told in your Humanities electives on the rest of us.

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  10. Re:You are seriously confused. by Generic+Player · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, they don't put any estrogen anywhere. Chemicals which are superficially similar to estrogen are not estrogen. If you want to make the claim that those chemicals are just as bad as estrogen, that's another issue entirely. But the claim was that they are causing estrogen to be found in everything, and its simply not true. Trying to claim plastic has anything to do with estrogen in meat and milk is ridiculous.