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NPR Finds XM's Achilles Heel

PreacherTom writes "In the ongoing radio wars, one only has to listen to 20 seconds of Howard Stern's language to know that the lack of regulation gives satellite radio a distinct advantage. Of all the challengers, it seems that NPR has finally found a weakness in XM, which supplements its satellite coverage with earth-bound transmitters. A recent test found that 19 of these transmitters were unlicensed and another 221 exceeded their authorized power level, giving NPR an opening to press with an apparently sympathetic FCC. It certainly doesn't help that XM's own filings support their case."

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  1. A war over antiquated technology? by dada21 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    XM is cool -- I tried it out for a few months and actually found myself listening to the radio for the first time in a long time. That ended when the lady of the house gave me her old iPod, which is now my primary listening device. I download a ton of independent music, go to a lot of shows, and also produce a few bands so I get demos all the time. A few podcasts make their way to the little device, and I'm happier for it. I'm 32, but it seems that most teenagers don't even know what a radio is, except for 88.7 FM or whatever station their FM transmitter for their iPod uses.

    I think radio technology is old and dated, and I can't really see a future for it. I've been calling for the FCC to deregulate (or lessen regulations) on the old analog TV channels -- and it looks like others have too because the FCC is doing just that. Setting up large chunks of bandwidth for broadcasting is ridiculous, it would be like setting up large chunks of the Internet for one-way non-interactive websites. The future is about a la carte selections, narrowcasting, custom playlists, whatever. The future is not massive 50,000 watt transmitters hitting the numb masses, but about individuals selecting what they want.

    I think the future is either WiFi-based communications, or EDGE-network communications. I already stream my music from my home server to my PDA via EDGE (HP PDA with Bluetooth dialup to my cell phone). It works great and I have instant access to gigs of music (and limited video).

    I realize that I am in the minority here, but everyone who checks out my system loves it and asks how they can do it. For now, they can't do it easily, but I don't expect that to last as more cell phone companies embrace wireless access for the web. For now it will stay proprietary (t-zones, vCast, etc), but give it time and as more bandwidth is deregulated, more people will jump on the narrowcast system. I even download a podcast of a few bands that put an hour playlist together, and it is perfect for my drive. Interactive real-time broadcasts aren't that interesting to me.

    The short future will be both local and satellite radio stations bashing each other over legal infractions, and that's fine -- let them spend their money on lawyers and lobbying Congress for more power over the airwaves. That future is only good for a little while, though. Right now people love the web over TV because they demand what they want, and someone supplies it RIGHT NOW. As the TV becomes more copyprotected, more people will demand more of the web, and suppliers will meet their needs.

    As wireless connectivity reaches more of the masses, and becomes easier to use, and becomes faster, the days of broadcasting (TV, radio, newspaper, etc) will fall away, left as a memory to what the previous generation did. How antiquated. How cute.

    Sidenote: Funny how radio can not compete in the same way as XM because of the FCC. The FCC was created to support big radio conglomerates and keep out little competitors. They're still using the FCC to keep their monopoly, without realizing they're leaking customers like a sieve.

    1. Re:A war over antiquated technology? by jglen490 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have no problem with XM and Sirius doing what they do in terms of programming. But just as it is a subscriber's right to accept XM and/or Sirius service, it is other people's rights to not have their listening choices interfered with. The point of the article, and this discussion, is not about filth, trash, or the ears of the beholder, it is about deliberately interfering with signal already granted to surfaced-based broadcast media. It may very well be that the future is completely with satellite services, but until then the satellite servce companies DO NOT have a right to interfere with someone else's signal. So let's not redirect off the subject.

    2. Re:A war over antiquated technology? by brunes69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the future is either WiFi-based communications, or EDGE-network communications. I already stream my music from my home server to my PDA via EDGE (HP PDA with Bluetooth dialup to my cell phone). It works great and I have instant access to gigs of music (and limited video).

      I realize that I am in the minority here, but everyone who checks out my system loves it and asks how they can do it.

      I don't want to know how you do it, that seems trivial. I want to know how you afford it.

      Around here GPRS/EDGE data costs $60 for a measly 25 MB. That'd be good for about what, 30 songs at 56kbps maybe?

      Wouldn't last me one commute.

    3. Re:A war over antiquated technology? by NoSelf · · Score: 3, Insightful
      A few points i can agree with - iPods are great for toting along your audio of choice, podcasts are great for one's ability to listen whenever one chooses, and the FCC has devolved into a monopoly-protection racket that carves up a public resource (the broadcast spectrum)for the good of increasingly few big corporations.

      The FCC wasn't always that way, but in the last >3 decades it has completely abdicated responsibility for ensuring both access to the airwaves and breadth/diversity in programming.

      My biggest point of disagreement is the assertion that radio is dead. Commercial radio has been effectively dead for years, i wish someone would finally pull the plug.But as someone who lives in a city with one of the oldest community-based FM stations in the country (KBOO in Portland, Oregon, second only to WBAI in NY and KPFA in SF), i'm convinced that community-based and community-oriented programming can make all the difference in a locale's sense of cohesion and identity, especially for groups underrepresented and underserved by Big Broadcast Corps (aka ClearChannel, merchant of blandness). Local news covered by local folks (unlike the local daily paper, which is owned by Gannett), and a full spectrum of music programming done by amateurs in the best sense of the word - lovers of the music. Can't beat it. Public-access cable fills a similar role, but has narrower reach.

      iPod-toting techsters are still in a minority - a lot of people still listen to broadcast radio.

    4. Re:A war over antiquated technology? by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Antiquated? Really? I can get both AM and FM just about everywhere in the US using a $10 Radio Shack radio. I don't have to have an expensive casting setup, don't have to worry about mobile service blind spots, don't have Wi-Fi or don't have EDGE service.

      I can hear content that nobody else wants to carry because the audience is too small. I travel a lot by car, and enjoy listening to local radio stations because they are the only evidence left that not all of the US sounds like New York or California. I once listened to a Navajo radio station while on a long trip. Can I get that on XM? Right.

      Radio is still the great equalizer because it is relatively inexpensive to broadcast and the listening devices can be as cheap as a couple of bucks or as expensive as thousands of dollars.

      Yes, it may be eventually supplanted by newer technologies, but it is far from antiquated.

    5. Re:A war over antiquated technology? by seriesrover · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually this is a very good point. I listen to BBC Radio 4 and BBC 7 (over the internet) from the US - whilst there are plenty of shows I'd like them to put on there are many that I've enjoyed that I wouldn't have done a search on.

      Similiarly, terrestrial radio I pretty much only listen to in the car on the way to and from work. Whilst I enjoy the current affairs and news opinions etc. its not something I would pay for.

    6. Re:A war over antiquated technology? by planetmn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now the point is, who the hell is going to actually have the Sirius tuned to a populated frequency?

      The people I've found waiting near me at a traffic light when my radio goes from playing NPR to a garbled mix of NPR, static and whatever crap that person is listening to.

      It's not a matter of could it happen, it's a matter of it does happen. There have been numerous complaints to local station operators about the material that people are hearing when tuned to their station. The material is not coming from the station, but rather from nearby FM modulators.

      Even the manufacturers of the FM modulators have admitted that they exceed the power levels and that it is a problem. They just don't care.

      -dave

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      /., where "Apple and Google provide Iran with nukes" will be refuted with "But Microsoft is a convicted monopolist"
    7. Re:A war over antiquated technology? by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      who the hell is going to actually have the Sirius tuned to a populated frequency?

      People who don't give a shit, those who are just assholes, and people who have no clue. The world is full of all three. I frequently run into people broadcasting over the station I like listening to at the upper end of the spectrum at stoplights on the way to work (maybe all the same person, my schedule is pretty regular), perhaps they had a device that let them pick any frequency so they set it to the one that they usually listen to just to save them the effort of pressing an extra button. Maybe they don't know that the guy in the next car over is trying to listen to the traffic report and can't get it because of them, maybe they do and they don't care, or maybe they picked the frequency for the fun of fucking things up for everyone else.

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    8. Re:A war over antiquated technology? by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

      And, in order to match the nature of your offense, the bill will be sent to your neighbour's home so that you can pick it up from them.

  2. If the signal is encrypted, so what? by maillemaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the signal is encrypted, and you have to PAY to receive and decrypt the signal, so what if it is filthy language? Who cares where the signal originates?

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    1. Re:If the signal is encrypted, so what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The problem is that people use FM transmitters in the XM or Sirius receivers to listen on their car radios. Most of these come tuned to transmit on 88.1 Mz. I frequently hear Howard, or Opie, or some other obnoxious DJ exercizing their satellite free speech habits on MY radio interfering with NPR programming. This is causing frequent complaints to the NPR stations. The post erred in that it is not the repeaters that are the problem, it is the in-car receivers. As unlicensed transmitters they are forbidden to interfere with licensed broadcasts. XM has admitted that many of the devices do not comply, they are too powerful and transmit over too large a distance. This was accepted by XM because they wanted to avoid having their paying customers being interfered with from other stations. NPR is fighting back.

  3. Re:Think of the children by Palshife · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And why is public broadcasting using public funds to research FM modulators. I don't want donate to that research.

    Government assistance only makes up a portion of NPR's funds. The rest comes from the support of its listeners and its advertisers. NPR spends that money investigating the news. That's what this is.

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  4. Why the anti-NPR slant? by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article says that NPR is filing a complaint with the FCC due to non-compliance by satellite radio broadcasters and devices. That's a perfectly reasonably thing to do. But both the article and Slashot summary imply that NPR has an axe to grind against Satellite radio. Is there some NPR -vs- satellite radio thing going on that I don't know about? It seems like that is pre-requisite knowledge for understanding this article.

    1. Re:Why the anti-NPR slant? by jonnythan · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. NPR has two stations on Sirius.

      Read the article for NPR's actual complaints. The summary is misleading. The article is a conglomeration of actions from the National Association of Broadcasters as well as NPR.

    2. Re:Why the anti-NPR slant? by renderdude · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem is that the transmitters have "excessive" power, and thereby leak into nearby receivers. Why NPR is involved is that most of the satellite to FM transmitters are, by default, tuned to the low-end of the radio spectrum, which by chance is where most NPR stations are located.

      NPR has received a significant number of complaints regarding the broadcasting of "filthy language" on their stations, without the complainers realizing that it was from another vehicle.

      As an FYI, I have a 20+ mile commute through a semi-rural part of Maryland on lightly congested roads, and my NPR signal gets interrupted by satellite and iPod transmitters a minimum of 5-6 times, sometimes for 5 seconds as a car passes in the other direction, or the entire trip if it's the car behind me.

      The amusing part of this is connecting people to their music, e.g., the burly construction worker listening to broadway musicals, or the soccer mom in her minivan listening to hard-core rap.

    3. Re:Why the anti-NPR slant? by planetmn · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-t e.radio26oct26,1,519954.story?ctrack=1&cset=true, below 89MHz is set aside for non-commercial radio. Hence why NPR is located there.

      -dave

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  5. Re:Pathetic. by iroll · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, pathetic that they do investigative reporting. Who listens to NPR for that? I want my "Delicious Dish."

    Something tells me you didn't feel bad to begin with. So why are you listening to NPR, if they offend you so much?

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  6. Re:YRO??!!! by NevarMore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps not your rights online, but it is affecting your rights.

    1. The FCC is involved. This is an agency that has some questionable pracitices and policies. Its primary purpose is to regulate the airwaves on the interest and behalf of the public. In this case the FCC can make or break a decision to give the public more choice in how it recieves its news and entertainment. This is a matter of your money (if you buy ANYTHING from the US or anything carring an FCC cert you have in some way paid taxes some of which went to the FCC) being used to control your airwaves and your choice for content delivered on those frequencies.

    2. Current media oligolopy. The traditional broadcasters (ie ClearChannel) are trying to maintain their hold over the radio market. I expect this kind of behavior from such agencies but NPR, though a private organization, has traditionally worked hard for the public. I suspect that NPR is invovled here because NPR isn't being broadcast on XM/Sirius because they can't pay or won't make enough revenue for the satellite providers. I personally find that not broadcasting public radio/tv is socially irresponsible, but it is well within their rights as a private corporation.

    3. NPR has an important role to play here. NPR is the friendly bully for all public interest and community radio. A lot of community/low power radio efforts can be assisted by the rules and regs that help the bigger public broadcasters like NPR and PBS. The social climate in the US is not currently favorable for public broadcasting. I would hope that in the long run people and corporations will realize that this is important and use their voices and dollars to support it. We need to put some other pressure on media rebroadcasters (cable compaines, satellite radio companies, regular broadcasters) to continue to push public interest programs and support the little guy, not because the law says they do, but because its what they ought to do.

  7. Re:Think of the children by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Informative
    What is that might "frog with wings".

    I have no idea how to parse that sentance (or sentance-like string of words, anyway), but from context I'm assuming you're expressing skepticism that an NPR listener might have Stern suddenly interrupt the program they're listening to.

    I can vouch for this, it happens to me about once or twice a week now. Not always Stern, sometimes it's classic rock, and there's one house I pass that's usually listening to what appears to be and all-Sinatra channel. They have some sort of repeater (like the ones people use to listen to their iPod via the radio, but much more powerful) that is set to broadcast the XM content on 88.1FM, the same channel as our local NPR station.

    So I'll have problems listening to FM 87.8?

    Dunno. Maybe. But I can state from my own direct experience that around here, you'll have trouble listening to 88.1.

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  8. Re:YRO??!!! by planetmn · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because you obviously didn't read the article. NPR is upset at the makers of satellite (and other) FM modulators. The modulators are overpowered and do not comply with FCC regulations. The manufacturers of the units have admitted this and just went on their merry way. So NPR is asking the FCC to hold these manufacturers to the regulations.

    This is perfectly reasonable. Think of it this way. If Linksys sells a router with increased coverage area (because they exceed the power limits imposed by the FCC), and your neighbor buys one which causes your router to stop working, don't you think Linksys should have to comply with the law?

    -dave

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  9. Re:Shills.. by jandrese · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Frankly, their interest here seems to be "let our listeners actually hear our content", which is pretty hard to argue against, especially when the other guy is flagrantly breaking the law.

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  10. Re:Local local local! by MaggieL · · Score: 2, Funny

    When modern-ish radio was first becoming commercialized, the belief was that programming had to be "local local local!" in order to generate any viewership...

    You'd think to generate any viewership it would have to be "television television television".

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  11. Need a designated low-power frequency. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've got a solution to propose: why doesn't the FCC just designate a "national ultra-low-power frequency"? It seems like we need one; everyone has their iPods and XM Radios and other things that they want to play into their car stereo, and it's a real PITA to find an open channel. Plus, if you drive more than 50 miles, you have to retune it, because the "open frequency" in NYC is in use in Philly.

    We need to take a single, or maybe a handful, of FM frequencies (probably at the low end of the band) and designate them for low-power portable operations -- usable only by transmitters below 200mW (or whatever the cutoff is for unlicensed FM transmitters now).

    That would simplify people's lives who use portable audio equipment, because they wouldn't have to hunt for unused frequencies, and it would also make electronics designers lives easier (you'd just need a selector switch to choose between a few of the low-power-designated channels, or maybe not even that), and it would keep the unlicensed broadcasts from interfering with existing fixed service. It would pretty much be good for everybody.

    It seems like this is just common sense; these sort of micro-FM-transmitters aren't going to go away anytime soon; in fact there are more of them being made every day. So the interference problem is only going to get worse if we don't do something.

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  12. Re:NPR abusing taxpayer money. by avdp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A SMALL (and ever shrinking) portion of their funds come from the government. The largest portion come from people like me, who donate $x/year to them so that I can continue to listen to their excellent content. Another large portion comes from corporate sponsors.

    - First of all, you have no idea how they funded this research and complaint. You're making assumptions. If let's say I donate x thousands of dollars for NPR to figure out why I am getting all kinds of interference while trying to listen to it, would that be something you think you should have ANY say about?

    - Second if it is funded by their government grant, why is it not ok? Making sure their spectrum is not being infringed by the competition is a perfectly legit use of their money regardless of source. It's called customer service. People seem to be saying they're trying to cause trouble to the competition. That is a weird statement for two reasons: 1) they pretty much are one of a kind, they don't have any competition that I am aware of. 2) NPR has a channel on either XM or Sirius (or both)