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Global Warming Debunker Debunked

Earlier this month we ran an article linking Christopher Monckton's attempt to discredit global warming. The submitter asked plaintively, "Can anyone out there go through this piece and tell me why it might be wrong?" George Monbiot has now done so. From the article: "This is a dazzling debunking of climate change science. It is also wildly wrong... In keeping with most of the articles about climate change in [the Sunday Telegraph], it is a mixture of cherry-picking, downright misrepresentation, and pseudo-scientific gibberish. But it has the virtue of being incomprehensible to anyone who is not an atmospheric physicist... As for James Hansen, he did not tell the US Congress that temperatures would rise by 0.3C by the end of the past century. He presented three possible scenarios to the US Senate — high, medium, and low. Both the high and low scenarios, he explained, were unlikely to materialise. The middle one was 'the most plausible.' As it happens, the middle scenario was almost exactly right. He did not claim, under any scenario, that sea levels would rise by several feet by 2000." And on the political front, the only major ally for Pres. Bush's stand on global warming, Australia's Prime Minister John Howard, is now willing to look at carbon trading.

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  1. What do you expect from Global Warming? by elmartinos · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What do you expect from Global Warming? Here are the results from a survey in Germany:

      3.8 % Bananas
    12.0 % The sinking of America
      8.1 % lower heating costs
      5.9 % a bigger penis
      2.1 % browner politicians
      5.0 % time off due to excessive heat
      5.0 % interesting new interessante neue diseases
    51.9 % more naked vixens
      2.3 % less social coldness
      4.0 % Samba the whole night

  2. um, hello? by Scudsucker · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    There are people who have been doing unbiased studies for decades. They're called scientists.

    1. Re:um, hello? by Scudsucker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Science isn't biased, but that doesn't mean scientists aren't.

      You seriously think that 100% of climatologists are going to ignore the evidence to support a hidden agenda? That they've been marching in lockstep for the last 30+ years?

      Yes, 100% - try finding a climatoligist today that dismisses global warming who isn't on the payroll of the fossil fuel industry. The scientific debate on wether or not global warming is happening, and wether humans are the driving cause, was settled a decade or two ago. Much like with Intelligent Design, there is no scientific debate on the subject, only a political one.

      Climate sceptics are either A) on the payroll of the oil and gas industries or B) the new flat earthers. Which one are you?

    2. Re:um, hello? by Scudsucker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Classic flat-earther responce. Just more handwaving so you can continue to ignore the problem - 100% stupid. But don't listen to me, try listening to the 30+ years of research and overwhelming consensus among climate scientists.

  3. Re:I really don't understand how people ... by Scudsucker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Fix it? Fix what?

    Carbon emissions. Duh.

    So far the science has not been able to tell us what is wrong.

    The hell it hasn't. To much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and humans are the cause.

    What we DO know is that we have had cold periods in the past and warm periods in the past.

    Yes there have been climate changes before. Go have a cookie. But previous changes were driven by human activity, as we know to be the case today.