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Novell Injects MS Lawsuit Exploit Into Open Office

F.M. Petain writes, "It looks like Microsoft's first move in the 'Linux owes us' game is to move a Pawn. A few days ago, a Novell programmer, Noel Power, submitted patches to add VBA compatibility to Open Office's spreadsheet module. This is great for people trying to convert the business desktop from closed source to open source, but is this gift really a ticking time bomb? What happens when Microsoft declares that the VBA code was stolen?" The patches may have been submitted only a few days ago, but the code must be considerably older; the article claims that nine distros in adition to SUSE already support the VBA extensions in their versions of Open Office. (Linux.com and Slashdot are both part of OSTG.)

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  1. Re:Poison pill by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Informative
    isn't the whole point of Opensource is everyone can look at the source and get rid of questionable code? so...what's the deal?


    Simple. While the logic of the situation is obvious to anyone who knows anything about computers, The Ballmer knows he only needs to convince a judge who believes that the internet is a series of tubes through which he may attach a penis pump that Micro$oft's IP has been stolen. Although, I am somewhat curious as to what the relation is between Donald D. Thompson and Jack Thompson, apart from the rather obvious meeting of the minds, as it were.

  2. Proof or STFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Q4. With this agreement, will Novell include Microsoft patented code in its contributions to the open source community?

    No. Novell will not change its development practices as a result of this agreement. It has always been our policy in all development, open source and proprietary, to stay away from code that infringes another's patents, and we will continue to develop software using these standard practices. If any of our code is found to infringe someone else's patents, we will try to find prior technology to invalidate the patents, rework the code to design around the infringement, or as a last resort remove the functionality.

    Novell is committed to protecting, preserving and promoting freedom for free and open source software.

    http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/faq_opensour ce.html

  3. Re:Please Microsoft, not THAT obious !!! by tannhaus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Read the article. This functionality has been available in Debian, Fedora Core, and Ubuntu already. SuSE is just finally adding it...a little behind the others. So, tell me again how this is Microsoft playing a trick...by distracting SuSE from patching so they're the last one to implement what may be an important feature to businesses?

  4. Re:Cut the crap by loconet · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Since when exactly does every little action by Novell employees deserve an article at Slashdot?"

    Exactly? I'd say 03:37 PM -- Thursday November 02 2006. The moment we learned Novell was about to sell its soul and add the community as desert.

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  5. Re:The word is "caution". by CYwo1f · · Score: 4, Informative
    Why bother? Patent violations can exist in either. Even copyright violations can exist in either.

    Of course, but how is it more likely to occur in this case than in any other open source project? Because Novell and MS are both involved (although only Novell directly)? I'm just not ready to take that as proof of poison.

    Given the recent events, a higher level of caution would be advisable. Whether you agree or not.

    A higher level of caution does not justify the baseless accusations present in the slashdot summary.

    This module was first documented a year ago from what I can tell. See the history on this wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VBA

    While it seems that Novell does maintain and develop the code now, I'm sure somebody familiar with the ooo-build repository can track down the original author(s).

  6. Re:*all* patches from Novell must be rejected by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 4, Informative

    Given Novell's recent actions I'm thinking of going back to Red Hat
     
    The macro that is included as a VBA demo in the article http://www.linuxtalk.co.uk/ooo_vba/hypocycloid-dem o.xls works with the OpenOffice that is included with Fedora Core 6. I just tried it on this computer. So the "evil patch" is apparently already present in Red Hat's OpenOffice.

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  7. Re:Poison pill by sphealey · · Score: 3, Informative
    === Sadly in the big corporate world that just isn't true, I wish it was (would make life a lot simpler). I get asked for Netware / eDirectory / Groupwise (you missed that one) integration all the time. ===
    I have never used Groupwise, although those who have and still do say it is an excellent product. My spouse uses their web-based client for work and it seems as good or better than any web version of a featureful mail system (for what that is worth).

    As far as eDirectory, and to a lesser extent Netware goes, I would respectfully disagree. eDirectory was and still is a very very good directory product. After fighting with inActive Directory for 3 years I would tell any enterprise with a large directory that is considering migrating off eDirectory that they are nuts - stay with it until Novell gives up the last gasp.

    sPh