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Intel Patents the "Digital Browser Phone"

tibbar66 writes, "This sounds like an invention that has been invented many times before (e.g. Skype). Yet on October 10, 2006 Intel was granted a patent for a 'digital browser phone.' The patent was filed on Feb. 25, 2000. Here's the abstract: 'A telephone system wherein all the functions of a digital telephone can be accessed and implemented on a personal computer alone, thereby eliminating the need for a telephone set. By means of the computer display and mouse, keyboard or other input/output command devices, a user accesses and implement all digital telephone functions without the physical telephone set, the personal computer also providing the audio function. A graphical representation of a telephone set or other telephone-related form is provided on the computer display and accessed by the mouse, keyboard or other command device, this being accomplished by a computer program providing graphical interface implementation. A significant advantage of the system is computer access to and utilization of digital telephone functions from a remote location with communication via Internet, LAN, WAN, RAS or other mediums.'"

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  1. Actually it's Intel by grimmy · · Score: 5, Informative

    If the submitter RTFP they would have seen that it was Intel, not M$.

    1. Re:Actually it's Intel by kripkenstein · · Score: 5, Informative

      If the submitter RTFP they would have seen that it was Intel, not M$.

      Indeed. But if the patent office doesn't read the proposals, why should the Slashdot submitter? (Granted, the other option is that the patent office did read the proposal, but the patent office worker was so ignorant it sounded like a new idea to him/her.)

      Currently there are so many variations on this theme already in existence (Skype, Jajah, even Ekiga etc., in a sense), that it boggles the mind such a patent was granted. Yet, TFP says that the filing date was "February 25, 2000". How many of those were around circa 2000? Skype only began around 2002-2003 IIRC...

    2. Re:Actually it's Intel by statusbar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I helped port one from win3.1 to win95 in 1996... It worked over the LAN and Internet... It looked like a phone... It supported GSM encoding, and full-duplex audio if your sound card was good enough. The company name was 'Telit', and does not exist anymore.

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  2. What would these guys have to say? by Maltese+Falcon · · Score: 3, Informative

    As well as countless others, as M$ tries to rewite history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VocalTec_Internet_Pho ne

  3. veracity check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was with the patent requestors technically until "A preferred program is commercially available from Microsoft Corporation and known as ActiveX control. ActiveX control enables one to develop sophisticated controls...". Now I realize this was some kind of joke.

  4. USPTO, wake up or go away! by hulkio · · Score: 3, Informative
    Seems to me that the USPTO is slowly but surely loosing its meaning. I mean, there was so much prior art on this one, how could they even consider the application in the first place? The more they accept these kind of patents, the less they serve their purpose. Their mission (from their site):
    USPTO encourages technological advancement by providing incentives to invent, invest in, and disclose new technology worldwide
    . Seems to me that their mission is more like:
    USPTO encourages its own financial advancement and the proliferation of unproductive patent law firms by providing incentives to create legal ammo for the big corporations that can afford the insanly expensive process of filing a patent
    . Oh well, we will just have to produce and sell our nice new inventions from China where they could not care less about respecting and enforcing all that nonsense.
  5. Re:It's an intel patent not MS by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So we get a Slashdot post about the USPTO not looking at the patent application properly, where the poster (or /. editor) did not look at it either. My brain hurts.

    Whatever, as someone else here said, Vocaltec started the ball rolling back in 1995. Maybe they only patented in Israel, not the US, but that won't help Intel here.

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  6. Consequences and [OT] patent rumor by Lord+Satri · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This story is just another reason to hate patents. If the iPod's clickwheel could be used by other manufacturers, than everybody and Apple would need to offer -more- and thus, innovate, to make sure they keep their customers and sell their devices. (ok. maybe it's not the patent themselves the problem, but how long they are enforced. I feel 2 to 5 years should be enough...) Same for this MS patent which sound a little too much obvious technology to me.

    And the off-topic part, Apple came up with an interesting yet-another-patent one for a configurable input system (patent screenshots included). In short: "The concept is based around adding physical/tactile controls over a touch-sensitive pad. By having such a modular system, an iPod or laptop could become even more multi-functional." As much as this patent is interesting and could help transform computers into something more versatile and useful, it's still a patent which impedes anyone else using the idea at the commercial level.

  7. Prior art? by gstovall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Heh? In 1994, we were already buying commercial softphone applications for PC to PC telephony. In 1995, we had the ability to click a button on a web browser and launch a voice session with a customer service rep in an ACD pool. In 1996, we demonstrated a macintosh running voip software connected to a gateway that put the voice session out on an ISUP trunk to an M-1 PBX. I'm having difficulty understanding the originality of a 2000 filing on this subject.

  8. Re:Typical MS patent, 'cept it's Intel... by rvw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I had an IBM Aptiva in 1997 with a phone system. I could telephone other people using the computer. This was done using a normal telephone line, no adsl or cable. The computer was not online. When somebody phoned me, I would hear a ringtone via the loudspeakers, and I could talk using a microphone. I used it several times, but it wasn't really practical, especially because of sound quality.

  9. More Slashdot ignorance by dilute · · Score: 4, Informative

    For a community so up in arms about patents, the level of ignorance here about patents is astounding.

    What a patent actually COVERS is what is in the CLAIMS. The abstract means NOTHING. Here is the text of the three principal claims of this patent:

    1. An apparatus, comprising: an interface to connect to a synchronous digital link and to send and receive digital signals to and from a telephone switch over the synchronous digital link; a controller to generate graphical display information and events based on the digital signals received over the interface; and logic to communicate over an asynchronous digital link, to convert the digital signals to an asynchronous format, and to transmit the digital signals and the graphical display information and events over the asynchronous digital link, wherein the logic is arranged to receive key press and hook state commands over the asynchronous digital link.

    3. A method, comprising: receiving digital data from a public branch exchange (PBX) over a synchronous digital communication link; generating graphical display information and events based on the received digital data; transmitting the graphical display information and events over an asynchronous Internet protocol (IP) link; receiving a key press and hook state command over the asynchronous Internet protocol (IP) link; translating the key press and hook state command to a different format; and transmitting the translated key press and hook state command to the PBX over the synchronous digital communication link.

    6. A computer readable medium including instructions that, when executed, cause a computer to: convert received light events and display updates to a graphical format; cause a first display device to display a digital telephone including the light events and display updates; convert received input device data that is related to the displayed digital telephone into a packetized format, wherein the input device data includes a key press and hook state commands over asynchronous Internet protocol (IP) link; and transmit the packetized input device data over the asynchronous Internet protocol (IP) link.

    Also, the patent was based on an earlier application filed on February 25, 1999. For most purposes, the date against which to shoot with any invalidating prior art would have to be Feb. 25, 1998 or earlier. Having to go back these two additional years makes it much harder to shoot down this patent than it would be if the relevant time frame was 2000, as implied by the lead post.

    I don't know if the patent is valid or not, but it certainly has a lot more merit than suggested.

    Plus, as has been pointed out above, the patent owner was Intel, not the hated Microsoft.

    But, after all, this is Slashdot, so why be burdened by any actual facts?

  10. Read the claims, not the rest of the patent by rswail · · Score: 3, Informative

    Only the claims have any real standing when testing a patent... the first claim is for:

    An apparatus, comprising: an interface to connect to a synchronous digital link and to send and receive digital signals to and from a telephone switch over the synchronous digital link; a controller to generate graphical display information and events based on the digital signals received over the interface; and logic to communicate over an asynchronous digital link, to convert the digital signals to an asynchronous format, and to transmit the digital signals and the graphical display information and events over the asynchronous digital link, wherein the logic is arranged to receive key press and hook state commands over the asynchronous digital link.

    So this patent only covers an interface that communicates over a synchronous digital link, ie, ye old PBX. It doesn't cover any of the VoIP/SIP/RTP solutions. The first claim is too broad, in that PBX's have had this sort of controller/logic etc, so the subsequent claims come into play.

    Claim 3 talks about receiving digital data from a public branch exchange (PBX) over a synchronous digital communication link; so it's talking about POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service), admittedly over the newer digital circuits. Again, not VoIP/SIP/RTP.

    Claim 6 talks about a "medium" wherein the input device data includes a key press and hook state commands over asynchronous Internet protocol (IP) link;. So if you're not sending the equivalent of key presses and on/off hook states over the IP link, again, you're outside the bounds of the patent.

  11. Re:Typical MS patent, 'cept it's Intel... by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You simply have too much common sense for patents

    Right; patents aren't about common sense. Patents are about suppressing creative thought because some fool got to an office first. Probably the single greatest stumbling block to technology and progress humanity has ever had the misfortune to allow to be thrust upon itself.

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