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UK Police Implement Roadside Fingerprinting Tools

mormop writes to tell us the BBC is reporting that police in the UK have implemented a pilot program that allows officers to fingerprint drivers using a small handheld scanner connected to a database of approximately 6.5 million prints. From the article: "Officers promise prints will not be kept on file but concerns have been raised about civil liberties. [...] It is primarily aimed at motorists because banned or uninsured drivers often give false names, although pedestrians could also be asked to give prints if they are suspected to have committed an offence."

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  1. So, lets review for a moment. by AltGrendel · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In the UK they have or will have:
    • 360 helmet cams for police.
    • RFID tags in department stores
    • Video surveillance on most streets
    • "Smart" passports
    • and now this

    There also was that street fee thing, but I forget what that was all about. Sounds like the beginnings of a police state to me.

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  2. Re:Probable cause by Who235 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Yeah, but don't worry.
    Officers promise prints will not be kept on file

    See? They promise not to abuse their power, so it's all okey-dokey. They won't put all your information in a huge database and track your every move until the day you lie deep in the cold, cold ground and are no longer a threat.
    In the US the police need "probable cause" but they usually just make that up if you object to a search or some other privacy infringing action.

    Probable cause? What a quaint, old-fashioned notion! Today, if you really piss them off, they can just call you an enemy combatant and disappear your ass to Gitmo. You can talk to your extreme renditioner "Mr Smith" about probable cause all day long while he's making you think you're going to drown and hooking your nuts up to a car battery. Don't fret, though. If you haven't done anything wrong, then you don't have anything to worry about. Just sit back, relax, and watch your rights sail out the window like everyone else's while we band together to bring those big bad terrorists, immigrants, uninsured motorists, pedophiles, deadbeat dads, and jaywalkers to justice.

    Jebus, people. This is really getting out of control.

  3. They'll drag out "implied consent." by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They'll just invent some form of "implied consent" just like they do when you're driving a car.

    Eventually it's going to get to the point where just by walking out of your house in the morning, you're going to automatically "consent" to being fingerprinted, having your DNA sequenced, your retinas scanned, and your anus probed; and if you don't, they'll invent some sort of punishment for noncompliance. Or just Mace the hell out of you and do it anyway.

    Sure, they'll say, you don't have to consent -- you can just live inside your house 24/7. Just like, theoretically, you can walk everywhere instead of driving a car. By creating a totally impractical straw man, they allow you a "choice" to give up your rights, only without any other realistic option.

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  4. Re:What about a driver's license? by IIH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't this what a Driver's License is for? Or do British not have licenses (or not require that drivers carry licenses)?

    No, you aren't required to carry it with you, but are supposed to produce it on request within a certain number of days.

    However, it is clear to me that this is aimed at forcing the adoption of biometric ID cards (or more accurately the ID database behind it), just in smaller steps.

    1. First it will only be used for those without their licence on them. (for reasons given)
    2. Then it will be used to verify they are the person in the licence (pictures can be faked, gotta check your biometrics, sir).
    3. Then as a result of 1 and 2 above, they already have biometrics of most people on file, so the database is mostly complete.
    4. Biometric ID cards introduced (usual reasons given) - "not compulsary" you know)
    5. We have everyones's biometrics, so send them a card whether they requested it or not (we have the data, we're being nice and making it easy for them)
    6. Then, then most people have biometric id cards, make them a legal requirement (everyone has them, and it "stops crime/bad guys")
    7. Viola.

    In short this is step one of the "Barcode Britain" process.

    A parallel step is happening in 2008, where non-EU nationals in the UK will require an ID card to receive several services, but eu people won't, but the obvious question is how will someone prove they are an eu nationals? Result - forcing people to get an ID card in order so they don't need to show ID card. Only a government can think that twisted!

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