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Amazon Collapses Under Weight of 1,000 Xboxes

theodp writes "Is there such a thing as a BusinessWeek Cover Jinx? Amazon was bitten by the success of its 1,000 Xboxes for $100 promotion, which brought the entire site to its knees for about 15 minutes on Thanksgiving Day. Singing the too-much-traffic blues on Black Friday were Wal-Mart and Disney."

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  1. The article is missing the Amazon link!!!! by Wolfier · · Score: 5, Funny

    here evil grin

  2. Re:No Chance by 11223 · · Score: 4, Informative
    No more than 999 were on Amazon's network. I got one.


    I had two networks to choose from: Comcast cable modem, and a supposedly "slower" SBC DSL connection. I ended up using the DSL as Amazon went unreachable on the cable modem at 5 till 1 (CST). At 1:00, Amazon was taking 10-20 seconds to load, but it did load. I clicked, answered a simple math question ("what's 18 + 19" IIRC), and it gave me the "you've got it" page.


    I'm still shocked I got it, especially since I'm in Chicago, not on the west coast.

  3. You want the blues? by AltGrendel · · Score: 5, Funny
    How about this? Talk about one stupid seller.

    . The guy will probably protest it though.

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    1. Re:You want the blues? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Lots of online retailers have put up items at mistakenly low prices, only to retract later. It's not at all uncommon. They refund your money, and keep the goods.

      I forget what the legal defense of this position was, but it seemed airtight. Anyone remember offhand?

    2. Re:You want the blues? by unother · · Score: 4, Funny

      Almost as funny (for different reasons) was this guy selling a PS3.

      Check out some of the pictures. What's with the fish?

  4. THIS should be a Slashdot story... Submit it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the buyer asking if the contract is binding including an email from the seller.

  5. ..and now this! by TheSpatulaOfLove · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jeez - You would've thought they were selling Bags Of Crap with the way that server went down...



    On a serious note. They knew this was coming. It was marketed heavily and they should be ashamed for not being prepared to handle the onslaught of refreshers.

  6. Stupid promotion anyway by iendedi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How does Amazon think that a promotion like that would increase overall sales anyway? What they should have done is said that XBoxs will be onsale randomly throughout the day, so check the price from time to time to see if you are a lucky recipient of the sales price. There will be 100 randomly allocated sales items to customers each hour until the promotion ends.

    That would bring more traffic to their website and keep it there all day. Much better idea!

    Oh wait... Hmm....

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  7. Woot.com happens all the time. by tecker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ehh. This is nothing new. You should see Woot.com after they throw up a Bag-o-Crap on the site during a "wootoff". Their site at least says "Server is to Busy". Maybe Amazon.com should have thought twice before deciding to do a stunt like that.

    Hey wait a second. When was the last time a Microsoft product cause a VOLUNTARY distributed denial of service attack?

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  8. Re:They should have known better by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wouldn't that also defeat the purpose of the whole promotion though? I mean, if you're giving away a hundred x-boxes to drag as many people as possible to your site, and all you get out of them is 100 xBox sales, you've lost cash. It's the continued shopping that you're hoping for....

  9. 'beta test' ? by Quixote · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Amazon has begun offering a service called elastic compute cloud (EC2). It is designed to offer scalable computing/storage solutions designed to handle, (drumroll), traffic spikes.

    Which leads me to think: was this a beta test for this EC2 system? I mean, there's no better bait for the millions of youngsters out there than a cheap top-o-the-line console. What better way to stress test your system than to have 100s of 1000s of people hit your site at the same time? If Amazon has logged the traffic data (and they'd be incredibly stupid not to), it would be a gold mine for their engineers. Eventually expect them to offer just such a service which can handle the such spikes, and pitch it to the Best Buys and Walmarts of the the world.

  10. Re:Heh. by omeomi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me, or is the first year I've really noticed any sort of competitive pricing on game systems. Generally it hasn't mattered too much where you bought your game system, because they were pretty much exactly the same price wherever you looked. But this year, I got an ad for a $100 rebate on an XBox360 from MicroCenter, and now this stunt by Amazon...

    ...wish I'd gotten one...

  11. Microsoft paid Amazon to have this deal by ConfusedSelfHating · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No I don't have proof, but having the most prominent retail website in the world hawk your product is worth a lot of cash. The $100 special gets reported by multiple media sources, "1000 Xbox 360s sell out in 9 minutes", "Demand for Xbox 360s brings down Amazon's website". If Sony wants the headlines of people going crazy about the PS3, why wouldn't Microsoft want the same? Does anyone believe that 10 minutes of poor connectivity will hurt a website's reputation? Server problems yes, super cheap deals no. "Oh no, too many people are coming to our website for the great, great deals!" People are going to associate Amazon's name with amazing one time sales, which is only going to help them. Both Microsoft and Amazon have benefited from this sale.

  12. Re:Typical by Bamafan77 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    That's what typically happens when marketing is out of touch with engineering. My educated guess would be that marketing droids "forgot" to mention this promotion to engineering. If they did, assuming that Amazon's tech team is any good, this idea would get shot down pretty quickly as one which would creating a DOS attack.
    Eh, I don't know. A site as big as Amazon probably suffers from DOS almost daily. (In fact, an average day of legit traffic for Amazon.com would probably be indistinguishable from a DOS attack for most sites). And I'm sure Amazon has had past promotions that caused traffic surges too. I'm guessing they(including engineering) underestimated the popularity of THIS particular promotion.
  13. Collapse by Psychotria · · Score: 4, Funny

    The fact that the Amazon jungle has collapsed under the weight of a thousand boxes surprises me little. In fact I thought the number would have been more. Boxes to transport wood, made of... wood... it's no wonder really. This is a sad day. The diversity of species in the Amazon is huge. The fact that it has collapsed is worrying to say the least. This is likely to result in a whole series of follow-on effects: Global Warming will quicken; The ice-caps will melt; The Ozone Hole will become a non-issue (the hole will be so big, we'll start calling normal bits of sky the Ozone Zones). I have no idea why nobody thought of the children.

  14. Re:No Chance by Crysalim · · Score: 5, Informative

    You are the first person I have seen claim they got the code. I didn't believe anyone did until now, but that's only because I also was able to make it to the question link...

    ...but when I answered the question (19 + 6), it turned me down. It was incredibly frustrating, because I was under the impression that I had already received a claim code (this is what the buying tips page said), and it was waiting for me to answer that question.


    Screenshots: (1) The question | (2) The denial

  15. Re:Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Didn't turn out so well for Amazon when their site went down for hours.

    Hours? All 0.25 of them, you mean? I mean holy shit, it says 'About 15 minutes' right there in the blurb.

  16. Re:Heh. by cowscows · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only a retard would say that. It would make no sense at all for Amazon to fake it. Let's say they lost $200 per xbox selling them in this promotion. With 1000 boxes for sale, that's $200,000. A good chunk of change, no doubt, but not really difficult to come by for a company with a market value in the billions of dollars. They've gotten a ton of press out of it, and all for a fraction of the cost of a 30 second superbowl ad.

    Sure, they could've faked it, and then just relied on an overloaded website to avoid having to give out any real deals, but why would they want to have to deal with the potential PR problems if that truth got out? It would be beyond foolish for this to have all been a scam.

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  17. official response from Amazon customer service by DragonTHC · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thank you for writing about this situation which you encoutered with
    our web site.

    First, please allow me to express my sincere apologies for any
    frustration that has been caused. It is certainly not our intention
    for our customers to have anything but a pleasant experience at our
    store.

    We are working hard to provide a stress-free and convenient holiday
    shopping experience at Amazon.com. Unfortunately, we have not met
    that standard in this case.

    Please note many customers voted for customer vote program and were
    waiting to place their orders at 11 A.M. This caused high network
    traffic and hence our web site was slow.

    We utilize top of the line servers, internal routers and network
    connections. Although we often wish we could avert this problem,
    many issues regarding speed are actually a result of complex
    routing patterns over the Internet itself. Even the best Internet
    services can't get around this fundamental problems.

    To help prevent this problem in the future, you can reset your
    cachesize. Go to the "Cache" or "Temporary Internet Files" option
    on your web browser (in Internet Explorer, go to "Tools" and
    choose "Internet Options"; if you use Netscape, go to "Options" and
    choose "Network Preferences"), and make sure you have your memory
    cache set to 3000 kilobytes, and your disk cache set to 5000
    kilobytes.

    For instructions on clearing your cache on other browsers and
    platforms, please consult your browser's help documentation for
    details on how to manage this process.

    We here at Amazon customer service continuously strive to assist the
    customers in each and every way can and feel disappointed when we
    are unable to address customer's concerns. I hope you can understand
    our limitations in this regard. as if the problem were the fault of my firefox cache

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