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Old Mobiles — the Bad and the Ugly

CrazyPhrog writes "File under nostalgia? This round up of mobile hardware from days of yore includes the Dynatac ("the world's first proper mobile phone"), which looks like something likely clamped to Joan Collins' cheek in an episode of Dynasty; the frankly violent-on-the-eye jade T10, courtesy of a pre-Sony Ericsson; and the unwonderful Siemens Xelibri which looks as if it was designed to give simultaneous ear, eye and finger ache. Thankfully they really don't make 'em like they used to."

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  1. Dynatac... Joan Collins?? WTF? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    You obviously mean the Zack Morris Phone.

    Post v2:

    I long for those days of simplicity! Today's phones with automatic cell handover and features (!) like mail and SMS and ringtones are useless! Give me a 12 pound block of plastic that makes calls intermittently. I'm not giving up my current phone until they can come up with something worthy enough to replace it.

    1. Re:Dynatac... Joan Collins?? WTF? by NetDanzr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You may be joking (I can't tell for sure; I've seen such phones still being used in cars), but you're not too far from what some of us experience. For ages, I've been using the Nokia 3589i. My contract with Verizon has expired a long time ago, and they've been offering some new, bery compelling contracts, but I'm remaining a month-by-month customer because I don't see a reason to upgrade my phone. All I want is a wireless device I can use to place phone calls, receive them and exchange SMS messages. I don't need anything more, and yet Verizon is trying to push on me phones that are either status symbols or miniature computers, cameras and entertainment centers in one.

    2. Re:Dynatac... Joan Collins?? WTF? by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 2, Funny
      For ages, I've been using the Nokia 3589i.
      Jesus Christ, they have phones with color displays now? I really need to get with the times.
  2. Talktime? by welshwaterloo · · Score: 2, Funny
    "...first came onto the market in 1984 costing nearly $4,000 and promising around a half an hour of talk time."


    Wow.. over 20 years later & we've nearly doubled the amount of talk time...!
    Yay, progress!

    1. Re:Talktime? by Mr2cents · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least the battery doesn't have its own suitcase anymore..

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    2. Re:Talktime? by welshwaterloo · · Score: 2, Funny
      At least the battery doesn't have its own suitcase anymore..

      Nope - just a teeny bluetooth fire extinguisher.. :)

  3. personal favorite by pimpimpim · · Score: 2, Insightful
    samsung mp3 phone from 2000

    It was pretty sleek for its time, 32 MB memory for mp3 files that you could upload via a LPT printer cable :) It fitted me 16 led zeppelin songs on low compression and saved my mornings and a very boring holiday. Battery life was about a day when using the mp3 function. Nice thing: it still works! The headphones broke, though, so I cannot use the mp3 function anymore, unless I get the specific replacement cable which will cost the same as the phone probably :)

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  4. The bad and the ugly? by Mikachu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I certainly wouldn't classify the Motorola StarTAC as bad or ugly. In fact, as far as mobile phones went, it was certainly ahead of its time. I remember seeing those things years and years ago... I thought they looked pretty sweet, to be honest. From the picture they have on the site, it certainly doesn't fit under bad or ugly.

    1. Re:The bad and the ugly? by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think what the StarTAC did was the prove you can dramatically reduce the size of the cellphone into a small clamshell unit and still be usable. The form factor has certainly spawned competing designs from every other mobile phone manufacturer, that's to be sure.

    2. Re:The bad and the ugly? by stormhair · · Score: 3, Informative

      Although, to be fair, TFA does say "The good, the bad and the ugly...?" and not just "the bad and the ugly".

    3. Re:The bad and the ugly? by ygthb · · Score: 2, Informative

      Had a StarTac 7868 (Then a v60), And I would love to see a modern version.

      Features:

      Very easy to hear
      If it went off in a meeting, just unclip the battery (very easy to get to)
      replacement batteries were cheap
      Bend to your liking antenna
      TruSync compatable
      TOOK A MAJOR BEATING AND CAME BACK FOR MORE.

      I carry a TREO now, and have to admit I miss the "It Just Works" and takes a beating factor of my old 7868 and V60i.

      I would love to see the sive and form recreated with a palm in the upper lid. Kyocera did something like this, I just want it with BT, GSM, and G3.

      ART

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  5. That would be funny... by jlawson382 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ..if I didn't have my StarTac in my pocket right now. When your cellphone is listed at number two in a list of mobile design classics, perhaps it may be time to get up to date.

    1. Re:That would be funny... by sphealey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have never had another cell phone that worked as well as my now-departed Motorola brick phone; particularly as an in-car phone it has never had an equal. What is amazing to me is how in just 20 years Americans have been conditioned to accept unbelievably bad phone call quality in the name of "progress".

      sPh

    2. Re:That would be funny... by AgentPaper · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I finally bid farewell to my StarTac last year, when the Verizon rep told me that I had to get a new phone because mine wasn't E911 compliant and would no longer be supported on their network. I had that phone for eight years, and it was the best phone I'd ever had - it did everything I wanted, nothing I didn't, made calls everywhere and got great battery life. (Amazing how long you can get a battery to last when you're not powering a color screen, camera, MP3 player and all the other garbage that's built into modern phones.)

      I'm using a Treo 650 now, and while I like having everything on one device, I still miss my old StarTac.

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  6. If you can't club a seal to death with it by tttonyyy · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I'm not interested.

    Nothing wrong with lugging a big lead-acid about with you wherever you go. Right? Hello? Anyone there?

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    1. Re:If you can't club a seal to death with it by ptbarnett · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Others have modded you "funny", but you are closer to the truth than you might think.

      My first cell-phone was the Dynatac featured in the article summary. I primarily used it to call air traffic control for departure clearances from the non-towered airport where my plane was based. It made things much easier when I could taxi to the runway, do my run-up, call ATC and say: "I'm ready to take off". They could issue an immediate clearance with a short void time, and not tie up the airspace for a long time.

      Motorola offered the Star-Tac shortly afterwards, but it was really expensive. They also released a slightly smaller version of the Dynatac. It wasn't as thick and heavy, but it was still substantial. And it was affordable.

      About that time, several of my women friends bought cellphones to carry in their cars for use in an emergency. I warned all of them to buy a car charger, because the battery will probably be dead when it was needed most. One responded: "well, if the phone is dead, at least this model is heavy enough to use as a weapon."

  7. Re:New cell phones are made for trendloving losers by pklong · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know what you mean, my Nokia 6310 has every feature I want, and none of the features I don't. Sadly its' showing it's age. I can't see any modern phone surviving the years of abuse it has suffered - Its battery life is like new despite over 1000 hours talk time on the clock.

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  8. Feature bloat != good by Jorkapp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've read through most of the posts, and the general consensus is that newer phones with more and more features are not what people want.

    I couldn't agree more.

    About 5 years ago, I bought a Audiovox CDM8150 as a cheap phone for sending/receiving calls, text messages, and some very light web browsing. It worked like a charm - I never had any problems with that phone. Unfortunately, I let the account lapse (it was prepaid), and it suffered to the fate of a dresser drawer.

    6 months ago, I was in need of a cell phone yet again. I was faced with a choice - reactivate my old one for $75+tax (but with $75 in prepaid credits), or buy a Samsung A630 for $150 with the same amount of credits. Stupidly, I thought the A630 was a better choice.

    Now, bear in mind, I bought this just before I left for basic training. What's worse was it was defective, and this wasn't apparent until about 1 week in. The A630 has an internal battery because it uses VRAM, and the internal battery was malfunctioning - causing the phone to cut off calls and randomly reboot itself even when plugged in. Bear in mind, I could not leave the base to get my phone replaced until 3 weeks later, which left me stuck to payphones until then.

    I ended up getting the phone exchanged after 31 days - 1 day over the limit (thanks to the very understanding and professional staff at TELUS) - a fresh new A630 - and it too was defective. Same problem, internal battery (this one was a little better though, I could make a 15 minute call before it cut off). Another trip into the city, and alas another A630. This one has been working well so far.

    Towards the end of basic training, I realized how much better I would have been with my old CDM8150. Considering I never downloaded images or ringtones, played any games, or did anything "new" that my CDM8150 couldn't do, I kicked myself for not having my CDM8150.

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    1. Re:Feature bloat != good by DarkVader · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, I don't think it's that most of us really want a phone with fewer features.

      I think it's that we want the durability and voice quality of the older phones back. I had a Panasonic bag phone that lasted over 10 years, with quite a bit of bashing around. A call on that phone sounded like talking on a land line, unless you were really out in the boonies.

      These days, I've got a Motorola v551, and I like features like being able to sync my address book with iSync over Bluetooth. I use the Bluetooth headset quite a bit too. I've even had the camera come in handy a few times. But, there is no way this phone will last 10 years, it's not even likely to make it to 5. And, the voice quality is just crap compared to the Panasonic.

      I'd probably never buy a ringtone, but I have dumped a few midi and mp3 files on the v551, and I do like being able to tell my phone from anybody else's by the ring (yes, it plays the Imperial March - get over it.)

    2. Re:Feature bloat != good by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know if there's actually been a formal study to find out if people want cellphone features or not, but all this other crap is all anecdotal. Almost everyone I know under the age of 35 would like a phone that does it all; GPS navigation, full mp3 player, camera with zoom, etc etc. I know some of you like to carry a phone, camera, and gps in your pockets, but I like them all to be in one teensy device. (Not that I have GPS in my phone yet. Too spendy.)

      I also don't want to keep the same device for seven years anyway; I want to be updated, so I can have current features. I want the best! Or the best I'm willing to pay for anyway. I got a RAZR V3i from Edge Wireless for $140 with a two year contract. It has a 1.2MP phone (1280x960), a MicroSD slot, and nearly twice the reception of the V3 which puts it back into the running. It works as an mp3 player and as a halfway decent pocket camera. I use my cellphone camera constantly and I even use the video functionality now that I've tweaked it to record more than one minute of video at a time. (I shot half an hour of video at a wedding, for example; it's dinky but I was the only person with a camera near where I was standing, so I'm sure to have gotten some unique content.)

      Our disposable culture is producing recyclable electronics, and I'm into it. I want to have the new, nifty stuff, and so long as I can afford to be not too far behind (so that I can at least participate) then I'm pretty happy. It's a shame that we throw so much away but progress is continual and changing that would probably doom our species to a backslide into true barbarism (as barbaric as we are today, that should frighten people...)

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  9. Re:New cell phones are made for trendloving losers by _Hellfire_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree. When I started my new job they gave me a list of phones and said choose one. The only one on the list that even came close to the functionality of my trusty 6310 was the 6230. The 6310 went to my wife, but now she has needed to "upgrade" since the 6310's battery keeps disconnecting momentarily, switching off the phone, and the keypad is a bit dodgy from years of (my) abuse. Having said that, the 6230 is no where near as sturdy. I would have loved a new phone in the 6230 form-factor with upgraded processor, color display etc but keeping most of the core "functionality" of the phone. Maybe the mobile companies should do incremental upgrades to the phones instead of ditching the old designs completely every time a new phone comes out.

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  10. Re:Link is Slashdotted by Kenshin · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're asking the wrong crowd for a mirror. One's personal appearance isn't considered with this group.

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  11. New Motorola by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    My new Motorola FCKZOR has everything I need:

    1) Camera
    2) MP3 player
    3) Browser
    4) Games
    5) GPS navigation system
    6) Radar
    7) Television
    8) Microwave oven
    9) CD/DVD player

    Unfortunately, since it is so fashionably thin, there was no space to fit a microphone and I am unable to make calls.

  12. call me a grumpy old man if you want by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But I want my 1997 cellphone back. The earpiece was actually at my ear, and the mouthpiece was actually at my mouth, more or less. It had buttons that a full grown man could actually press one at a time. It made calls. It worked if you dropped it.

    So given the technology and network improvements, I should be able to get the same thing now with a free phone and $5/mo service with free airtime, right? {cricket chirp ... cricket chirp ...}

  13. I've got the perfect product for you by k31bang · · Score: 2, Informative
    But I want my 1997 cellphone back. The earpiece was actually at my ear, and the mouthpiece was actually at my mouth, more or less. It had buttons that a full grown man could actually press one at a time. It made calls. It worked if you dropped it.


    How about ThinkGeek's Bluetooth Retro Handset? That should fix two of problems. :-) I can't help you with larger buttons, though i suppose that Jitterbug Wireless service would fit the bill.

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  14. I know! I know! by hummassa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Interestingly, my old Archos GMini died without much dropping at all (in a strange coincidence, it died right after I bought my iPod...). Depends really.It died of sadness...

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