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Why Vista Took So Long

twofish writes, "Following on from Joel Spolsky's blog on the Windows Vista shutdown menu, Moishe Lettvin, a former member of the Windows Vista team (now at Google) who spent a year working on the menu, gives an insight into the process, and some indication as to what the approximately 24 people who worked on the shutdown menu actually did. Joel has responded in typically forthright fashion." From the last posting: "Every piece of evidence I've heard from developers inside Microsoft supports my theory that the company has become completely tangled up in bureaucracy, layers of management, meetings ad infinitum, and overstaffing. The only way Microsoft has managed to hire so many people has been by lowering their hiring standards significantly. In the early nineties Microsoft looked at IBM, especially the bloated OS/2 team, as a case study of what not to do; somehow in the fifteen year period from 1991–2006 they became the bloated monster that takes five years to ship an incoherent upgrade to their flagship product."

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  1. Linux development model? by October_30th · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, Microsoft has finally adopted the Linux development model?

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    1. Re:Linux development model? by M1000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      To borrow a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto, "A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever." I think that applies to pretty much any software project, though of course "good" is relative to the user.Wow, Duke Nukem Forever ® is sooo going to be good !!!

    2. Re:Linux development model? by operagost · · Score: 4, Funny
      To borrow a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto, "A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever."
      Unless your name is Derek Smart.
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  2. Wait for it, wait for it by suso · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because it had to move through the digestive tract and on through the large intestine.

  3. What if the "Bye" button... by carvalhao · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...uninstalled Vista instead? Now that would be a simple way to solve the matter.

  4. Re:15 ways to turn off a cumputer by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    cumputer

    I bet I know what you use your PC for.

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  5. Re:Hopefully by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It runs perfectly fine on my 5 year old...

    You run Windows Vista on your kid?! Not even Linux users would do that! :P

  6. Re:Hopefully by jandrese · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, clearly you should be running NetBSD on that kid instead.

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  7. Re:Welcome to inevitability by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Funny

    ``Maybe that's why ID http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Software still only has 31 employees?''

    No, that's because they used 5-bit ids in their database.

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  8. Re:Welcome to inevitability by neoform · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you one of those people who breaks out the AK-47 when someone spells Spider-Man without the hyphen?

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  9. MOD DOWN PARENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good God you have no sense of humor. Oooh oooh! Somebody insulted Linux!!!! Alert the authorities! Won't somebody PLEASE mod the GP???? Think of the children!

  10. wrong Steve by ronanbear · · Score: 5, Funny

    They can't afford that Steve.

    They're stuck with the other one

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  11. Re:Welcome to inevitability by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny

    Aren't they really the most darling creatures?

    Not really. They're near-impossible to housetrain!

    (A libertarian shat on my carpet once. Claimed the free market would sort it out. No it sodding didn't.)

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  12. Re:Welcome to inevitability by Knuckles · · Score: 4, Funny

    It is of little use discussing with you because you have no fucking idea what you talking about. In no particular order:

    * France: never was communist
    * It seems you recognize only 5 democracies in the world, one of which is Chile
    * You seem to think it was possible to do cool things in Nazi Germany or fascist Italy
    * You lump Nazi Germany and fascist Italy together with Holland or Sweden, totally ignoring the huge differences in favor of superficial similarities
    * You ignore that that Holland and Sweden are democracies
    * If you believe France is communist, why not Sweden?
    * You ignore that Nazi Germany had a huge bureaucracy
    * You ignore that many democracies in Europe actually have cut bureaucracies over the last 3 decades. Not enough for some tastes, but nevertheless.

    I am tired of this.

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  13. Re:Welcome to inevitability by GrahamCox · · Score: 5, Funny

    look at the Catholic church. It's been around for two thousand years. It's got just a few layers of management and at the top 183 cardinals report to the Pope

    Pretty impressive when you consider that for all that time their ONLY product has been vapourware.

  14. Re:Huh? by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ever try explaining the benefits of virtual desktops to a person who doesn't even think a tabbed browser is needed?
    That's one of the previous Unix admins I worked with.
    He was so clueless about his boxes that every week he'd say "I just wish I had windows servers instead."

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