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Whether Prestige Titles?

Via some extended commentary on GameSetWatch, a post by Greg Costikyan on the Games*Design*Art*Culture blog on the lack of 'prestige' games in the modern game industry. By 'prestige' Costikyan means titles that may not do terribly great commercially, but that attract a lot of goodwill towards the developer and publisher. From the article: "Suppose Capcom, instead of closing Clover Studios and muttering about 'disappointing sales' had trumpetted Okami's critical success, instructed its publicists to attempt to interest both game and tech media in presentations of art from this beautiful and visually stunning game, and announced their strong support for innovation and creativity in future? They might have produced greater interest in, and sales for, the game, but more importantly, could have worked to establish for Capcom what no company other than Nintendo has in the industry today--a reputation for actually caring about gameplay. Could Ubisoft not have done the same with Beyond Good and Evil? And since Ubisoft is in direct competition in most of the cities where it has studios with EA, which has a reputation for mistreating its staff and a lack of innovation, would this not also have benefited their recruiting efforts?"

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  1. Which one do you want? by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The summary talks about visually beautiful and stunning games and in the same thought refers to gameplay. Well, which one do you want? I think we've all established by now that gameplay comes first. So while I do understand the concept that games can be art, I disagree that art can be games - and the sales will show I'm right.

    TLF

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    1. Re:Which one do you want? by TPIRman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The summary talks about visually beautiful and stunning games

      No, the summary talks about "beautiful and visually stunning game[s]." Games like Okami and Ico are beautiful beyond the graphical aspects—there's a beauty to their story, feel, and gameplay. Those are the type of games that we're talking about when we discuss possible "prestige" games, not games with all visual splendor and no depth.

      And when we're discussing a creative endeavor, "the sales will show I'm right" is not a particularly compelling argument. In fact, it misses the entire point of the "prestige game" idea.

    2. Re:Which one do you want? by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Welcome to Earth. We humans (well, most of us) consider tits, breasts, boobs, gazungas, knockers and jugs (among may other names) beautiful. Some of us even consider football beautiful (unless it's this years Steelers). Violence can even be beautiful for the right reasons. Some people (mostly celibate monks) probably disagree. Lucky for us game publishers their definition of beautiful is far different than the average game player... Que Será, Será.

      TLF

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  2. Budget by Bastian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems to me that budget is the key reason why game publishers are backing off on the prestige games. Specifically, a lot of people don't seem to know how to make a lower-budget game.

    The article hints at this when they mention that prestige movies tend to be lower budget, and people who work on them are expected to work for lower pay. The huge expensive special effects and highest-paid actors are saved for movies with more mass-market appeal. Meanwhile, a lot of the more, shall we say, experimental games that I see coming out of major game studios still hold tight to their expensive high-detail graphics and whatnot. This makes the games much more expensive to produce, and they effectively price themselves out of their already restricted market.

    I think a key lesson that the game industry could stand to learn is that they don't have to have incredibly complex graphics and endless content in order to make a game look good and get played a lot - Katamari Damacy illustrates this point extremely well. This is another thing that sets prestige movies, which do shun the special effects and whatnot, apart from most attempts at prestiget games that I've seen. Another is that people who pay attention to these games aren't necessarily all that interested in great visuals, anyway. Paying for all of that when your target market doesn't care about it is just throwing money down a well.