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Iraq Study Group Reaches Concensus
reporter writes to point us to a story in the Washington Post reporting that the Iraq Study Group has reached consensus and will issue its 100-page report on December 6: 'The Iraq Study Group, which wrapped up eight months of deliberations yesterday, has reached a consensus and will call for a major withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, shifting the U.S. role from combat to support and advising, according to a source familiar with the deliberations.' The Post mentions that first word of the panel's conclusions came from the New York Times yesterday. The Times points out that it is not clear how many U.S. troops would come home; some brigades might be withdrawn to Iraqi bases out of the line of fire from which they could provide protection for remaining U.S. operations.
Are you being intentionally obtuse, or are you just naturally this way?
I suppose if your definition of "victory" is "turn Iraq into America Jr", then no, it's not happening. On the other hand, there's no reason why reasonable, and productive, goals cannot be met. Try ignoring the media and talking to your soldiers some time if you want a realistic picture of how things are going in Iraq.
Sure, I'll run right over there and ask them.
You know, your army has over 1 million personnel, and only 150,000 are in Iraq. I'm just guessing here, but I think you might be able to find at least one or two of them inside the US.
Or maybe I'll check our some picture they can no longer send.
What?
Oh, wait I know I'll ask someone who is essentially *ordered* to have a positive outlook how things are going.
Where do you get this shit from?
Seriously, your comments just emphasize your utter lack of knowledge about the military. And when you don't even understand the first thing about your own military, how can you expect to understand the situation in Iraq?
Maybe you need to go ask an Iraqi how things are going.
I have. Have you?
Wow. You're truly insane, you know that? You're trying to tell me that "the rest of the world" thought that the worlds largest, and best equipped military force couldn't take on a piddly little country like Iraq? Buddy. What colour is the sky in your world?
Ofcourse, you could be right, and maybe that's really what the rest of the world though....in which case I gotta wonder just what sort of propaganda passes for news in those countries. Your newspapers must make PRAVDA look fair and balanced.
Except that's not what we're seing now.
Eh, you know what, forget it. I don't know why I bother. There's no way I can convince people like you. Not because you're ignorant or anything, just because you've been so brainwashed by the fucking media that you have absolutely no idea what's actually going on over there. So forget it. Thanks for showing me once again that the propaganda war can be even more important than the ground battles. Hopefully one of these days the politicians will learn that lesson too, and will develop a strategy to fight back.
You mean the same rest of the world who went with the appeasement strategy when Hitler started becoming beligerent?