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Vista Hackers Get Busy

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft's long-awaited Windows Vista release Thursday for business customers will get more than just the passing attention of network administrators. That's because hackers will be eagerly waiting to do what hackers do best: start some mischief." Some folks on the Black Hat set got a sneak peek at Vista earlier this year, so they've had time to prepare.

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  1. The most retarded story ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because crackers were obviously waiting until Vista was available in stores.

    1. Re:The most retarded story ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, yes. I'm sure all the crackers have gotten their grubby little mitts on the thing already, but the general populate hasn't. What good is being able to break into Vista already, when no one is using it yet. Once the use of the OS starts to grow after it is released, there will be an abundance of targets. Not so, right now.

    2. Re:The most retarded story ever? by StikyPad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, they were waiting for legitimate customers to install it so they could try out their hacks in the real world. See sig.

    3. Re:The most retarded story ever? by Asztal_ · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm sure someone has managed not only to circumvent WGA, but r00t Microsoft's WGA servers and set the Administrator account's screensaver to a marquee: "Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all."

    4. Re:The most retarded story ever? by MioTheGreat · · Score: 5, Informative

      By replacing two files in Vista with their RC2 counterparts, you were able to trick Vista into thinking it was RC2 for key and activation purposes.

    5. Re:The most retarded story ever? by Jahz · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Well, yes. I'm sure all the crackers have gotten their grubby little mitts on the thing already, but the general populate hasn't. What good is being able to break into Vista already, when no one is using it yet. Once the use of the OS starts to grow after it is released, there will be an abundance of targets. Not so, right now.

      Targets? Are you under the impression that the only reason to exploit a machine is to form a bot net? Additionally, have you considered that an exploit written/discovered during beta can, in most cases, be SAVED until release? It's not like the evil hackers are reporting their hacks to Microsoft for QA purposes.

      *sigh*
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    6. Re:The most retarded story ever? by The+Great+Pretender · · Score: 4, Funny

      They should have released Vista during NASCAR season, then the crackers would've been too distracted to mess with it.

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  2. Hack WGA First by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make it better. The less piracy of windows there is in the world, the more people will get into free alternatives

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    1. Re:Hack WGA First by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Make it better. The less piracy of windows there is in the world, the more people will get into free alternatives.

      Hell, make it deny everyone. The less legitimate use of windows there is in the world, the more people will get into free alternatives.

    2. Re:Hack WGA First by WoLpH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It all depends on your definition of "fun". You can play a lot of games with ease, kde alone features games like Fleur II, Bricks, Raeumen, Neuner, Spooky Shooter, Sheep, Megami and a lot more. Those games are considered "fun" so what is your point really?
      Exactly, Linux isn't bad, it's just not what _you_ want.

      For me it's the exact opposite, every time I work on a Windows machine I just feel restricted, I can't move around as fast, everything takes more time to do... So is Linux now better then Windows? No it isn't, it's different, it is superior at some points, it's inferior at some other points. Neither is perfect, just keep in mind that the world doesn't revolve around you, your opinion is just one of billions ;)

    3. Re:Hack WGA First by pallmall1 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hell, make it deny everyone.
      What are you trying to do, kill the spam industry?
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    4. Re:Hack WGA First by kimvette · · Score: 4, Funny

      My backup archive server NEVER runs out of space. I've been archiving old backups to /dev/null weekly for four years now. It is amazingly efficient.

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  3. Always a game by nawcom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft software will always be a puzzle game to hackers and such; closed, hidden, and exciting to find.

  4. It's Starting Already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't even have the operating system installed and I'm worrying about the hackers and the virus already.

  5. Sneak Peeks by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ``Some folks on the Black Hat set got a sneak peek at Vista earlier this year''

    It seems to me pretty much everyone got a sneak peek at Vista earlier this year.

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  6. Helping Hacker Culture Grow by foobsr · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you are a writer or journalist, don't say or write hacker when you mean cracker. If you work with writers or journalists, educate them on this issue and push them to do the right thing. If you catch a newspaper or magazine abusing the work `hacker', write them and straigten them out (this appendix includes a model letter).

    The New Hacker's Dictionary

    CC.

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    1. Re:Helping Hacker Culture Grow by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean REALLY liking computers won't turn my hair blue and introduce me to a world of leather clad babes and techno music? I thought I just wasn't using mine enough. This is disappointing.

      Yeah, I don't really understand why people get mad at "hacker == cracker". They're mislabled as badboys. You wouldn't want them mislabeling you as fat lonely nerds who live in their....

      Wait.

      Shit.

    2. Re:Helping Hacker Culture Grow by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      don't say or write hacker when you mean cracker

            No. That's the thing really. With the DMCA, both of them are criminals now anyway...

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  7. Re:Outcome is Predetermined by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Funny

    ``I give the first verified Vista exploit 90 days from the day they ship to consumers.''

    Is that because it takes them 187 days to verify it?

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  8. I saw a long line of these guys at compusa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They were all standing around with their tents in their black hats waiting to crack stuff and make keygens and shit. I asked why they were waiting in line when they could have had the RTM weeks ago on Usenet? They replied, "What's Usenet?" Those black hats must really fuck with the circulation in your head. I wonder if Slashdot editors wear black hats.

  9. Predictions by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    o Exploits will be in older code.
    o The first "exploits" announced will be simply userland Trojans, as will most that follow.
    o Old-style remote exploits will be unusual and dramatically rarer than we're used to.
    o Nobody will notice the difference. The media will lump all problems together and the reports will boil down to "LOL V1st4 pwned".

    MS has hunted down unsafe APIs and banned crypto algorithms that are damaged (MD5) or that nobody can figure out how to use correctly (RC4). They compile with stack canaries. They've added address space layout randomization. A large number of people in Canada will forever snarl at me in derision for saying this, but Microsoft is beginning to absorb lessons from the success of OpenBSD.

    It's never going to be the same, of course. There's not enough money in the world to audit Microsoft's cetacean code base to OpenBSD standards and I can't believe the design of Windows would support privilege separation.

  10. Re:wtf bs by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

    we had to manipulate the bits with our fingers, in the snow, without gloves on!

          You had FINGERS? You lucky dog. We used to sit around at night, in the freezing cold, dreaming about what it would be like to have fingers...

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  11. Re:The hack I'm waiting to see by skinfitz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Runs a little "You now have Linux. Let us show you why you should keep it" demo at startup.

    See that's where your idea falls down - that would require artistic and creative skill along with the ability to - heaven forbid - document something.

    Skills that most programmers simply do not posess, unless you are talking about making ASCII porn pictures of anime characters, but I don't think that's going to sell Linux to the average Windows user.