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New Email Rules Effective Friday

An anonymous reader writes "As of today [Friday], certain U.S. companies will need to keep track of all the e-mails, instant messages and other electronic documents generated by their employees, in accordance with new federal rules. In April the Supreme Court began requiring companies and other entities involved in federal litigation to produce 'electronically stored information' as part of the discovery process of a trial." From the article: "Under the new rules, an information technology employee who routinely copies over a backup computer tape could be committing the equivalent of 'virtual shredding,' said Alvin F. Lindsay, a partner at Hogan & Hartson LLP and expert on technology and litigation. 'There are hundreds of "e-discovery vendors" and these businesses raked in approximately $1.6 billion in 2006, [James Wright, director of electronic discovery at Halliburton Co.] said. .'"

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  1. Massive Pretty Good Privacy by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Practically everyone can scramble our email, like with "Pretty Good Privacy" (PGP). If many of us do it, they might be able to crack it or force our password after due legal process, but private parties won't be able to snoop through all of us on any possible budgets.

    Your government can probably crack any nonsymmetric crypto (with help from the US), but might not have the resources to crack everyone's all the time. You can try a tinfoil hat, YMMV.

    The real problem is webmail, which can't use any installed crypto on either end (with possible rare exceptions, but the rarity and/or nonintegration makes them useless at only one end of the comms).

    If GMail let me upload a PGP applet I signed myself (which I could validate in the pages when I hit them), which they embedded into their pages in Javascript the public could audit for holes, they might actually become by far the best email system for the masses. And win the webmail wars. And really piss off the government(s) that have been trying to pry into their transactions for years.

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    1. Re:Massive Pretty Good Privacy by Beetle+B. · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If GMail let me upload a PGP applet I signed myself (which I could validate in the pages when I hit them), which they embedded into their pages in Javascript the public could audit for holes, they might actually become by far the best email system for the masses.

      Don't ever use "PGP" and "the masses" in the same sentence. There's a reason people don't use it unless they really need to. It's the hassle of exchanging keys and building a trust database, and getting people to use it as it should.

      It's a very minor hassle for those who use it well, but getting the masses to follow protocol is next to impossible.

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    2. Re:Massive Pretty Good Privacy by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah, but building demand by promoting the existing tool will encourage new developers to make it more useable.

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  2. Standard Conversation by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Techie:- We need to keep more backups of our e-mail database
    Bean Counter:- How much do the tapes cost
    Techie:- Lots - we need at least one DLT per backup
    Bean Counter:- We can't afford it.
    Techie:- We have to afford it
    Bean Counter:- Just leave the requisition in my intray


    Months Pass

    Bean Counter:- The courts are on to us. Where are the e-mail backups for the 1st December 2006
    Techie:- I had to overwrite them so as to keep a reasonabley current backup
    Judge:- Techie, you shredded evidence - now you're for it

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    1. Re:Standard Conversation by itlurksbeneath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've actually had that conversation with the bean counters, but it went like this:

      Techie: We need $5,000 to buy another 100 DLT tapes to comply with this no-rewrite order.
      Bean Counter: Again! We don't have any money in the budget to buy any more tapes
      Techie: Ok, no problem. Send me an email and CC your boss and my boss and tell them that we can not comply to this federal ruling because we don't have any money in the budget.
      Bean Counter: Erm.. Uh.. Oh! Here's some money for tapes you can have.

      As long as the gun is pointing at them, they are very cooperative.

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  3. Re:What's next? by archen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm an admin in a smaller company as you - shared hosted email. If you really want to play it safe, I would say make the responsibility of saving email the responsibility of each user.

    Really this is a bunch of crap anyway. What about companies that don't even CONTROL their employee's accounts and just expect them to use personal hotmail accounts. Catalog all instant messaging traffic? How about clients that might IM that are installed aside from what the company keeps track of. Yeah, let me just start logging ALL network traffic on that 20 trillion terabyte tape I rotate every day.

    Besides which how about tracking stuff that's encrypted? What if the messages are IMed through some http system? Now I have to do man in the middle attacks to sniff HTTP connections, then I have to store that information. Because we also do credit card transactions via HTTP I am storing credit card information this goes against Visa's policy for businesses allowd to do credit card transactions. I wouldn't be surprised if it were against the law either.

    The Supreme Court can say whatever they want, but I can't do what they're telling me, nor can I raise the dead like Jesus if they required that either. The law is irrelevant unless you PURPOSELY shred / delete documents - and that's against the law already during litigation.