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Civil UAVs Still A Distant Prospect

holy_calamity writes "The aerospace industry has failed to obtain the radio frequencies that would allow the use of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) in civil airspace, New Scientist reports. It will be 2011 before it can even begin to lobby for space on the radio spectrum. What's more, no national aviation authority in the world will allow civil UAVs without a system for avoiding other aircraft. And no firm has even started development of one. Has the industry cheated us of the benefits of civil UAVs by focussing on the demands of the military?" From the article: "On the brighter side, last week the UN's International Civil Aviation Organization, based in Montreal, Canada, said its navigation experts would meet in early 2007 to consider regulations for UAVs in civil airspace. That could be a step towards internationally agreed rules for how UAVs should operate. Even if the UN body makes rapid progress, however, it will be meaningless unless the industry can obtain the necessary frequencies to control the planes and feed images and other sensor data back to base."

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  1. Waitaminute... by Atlantis-Rising · · Score: 3, Funny

    Civil UAV's are illegal? Then what the fuck have I been flying around the local park for the past year, a mechanical bird?

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    1. Re:Waitaminute... by jdray · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe they should call them UAAVs, for Unmanned Autonomous Aerial Vehicles. Do your models have any on-board decision making capability? It seems like with the abundance of cheap PLCs and environmental sensors, some sort of hobbyist collision avoidance solution could be cobbled together. Of course, I've already said about 40% more than I actually know about the subject. Still...

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    2. Re:Waitaminute... by Atlantis-Rising · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They have no on-board capability whatsoever, other than basically a radio reciever. However, they have remote automated guidance; the computer they connect to over the 2.4 GHz band can be programed in basically any way you please, including doing autonomous parking orbits, semi-random courses, etc, etc.

      If I really wanted to, I suppose, I could move the computer (since it doesn't really require anything more than a small PDA- we're not talking magic super processing here) onto the plane itself and just remotely control the control application, if that makes any sense. ..humm... now you have me thinking about getting a PDA with an onboard camera, hooking it up to a bluetooth GPS, rigging a serial cable for the actual flight controls, and remotely controlling it to get an upgradable UAV surveillance drone...

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    3. Re:Waitaminute... by massivefoot · · Score: 2, Informative

      I appreciate how you can think that this would be the case, but I would disagree. I'm a pilot in the UK, and did my training near Manchester, which isn't exactly known for its clear weather, so this may be a worst case scenario, but an aircraft is not necessarilly an easy object to see on a slightly hazy day. Whether you're looking towards the sun or not can make things far worse.

      You would need a relatively high resolution camera to be able to make out aircraft at any reasonable distance. The UAV would also require (assuming it is autonomous) software processing to identify objects as aircraft, and assertain information such as type and velocity. Also remember that aircraft often have a large number of sources of vibration, so backups of most systems would be wise. You would also have to devise a seperate system for interaction with air traffic control, who have a stressful enough job as it is.

      What concerns me most, however, is the possibility of an engine failure. Civil aviation practically assumes that your engine will fail (you have to be able to glide clear of a built up area with an engine failure, and my instructor would always ask me during circuits "ok, where would you go if the engine failed right now?"). With a UAV, an engine failure will probably require it to act autonomously (straight line radio transmissions would be unreliable at low altittude, satellite relay would have some lag). This requires software that can identify the wind direction near the ground (not too hard), identify a suitable field for landing (would possibly need a colour camera), evaluate the risk to others (identity humans, livestock, buildings in the vicinity) and actually perform a landing in a field of unknown altittude and pitch. Whilst I'm prepared to believe software can be written to perform such a task, I would have concerns regarding its reliability. Actually, I would suggest that a better idea would be to bring the aircraft down into a low velocity 'crash' into a safe area, rather than trying to land it intact.

    4. Re:Waitaminute... by Zantetsuken · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm no radio communications expert, but couldn't an autopilot software be written so that in this case of it going out of range, it would perform the 180 as you say, and then possible hunt for the origin of the radio frequency its on by where the stronger signal is, and be at least a bit more precise in returning to the ground transmission antenna instead of just making a 180 when you could be 45 degrees in a different direction?

    5. Re:Waitaminute... by cshotton · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The whole problem has to do with the industry and public perceptions of what a UAV is. For most people, "UAV" means "big remote-controlled airplane with cameras and/or weapons." That is the old school definition, where the ground station essentially consists of a remote cockpit and the vehicles are flown by a human (or autopilot commands are sent) via a persistent RF link. Communications failure means vehicle failure.

      As the former chief architect for software on the DARPA/USAF Joint Unmanned Combat Air System (J-UCAS), I can tell you that the public's perception of UAVs have about as much in common with state of the art UAVs as the Wright Flyer has to a F-16. The difference is the degree of autonomy the aircraft exhibits. J-UCAS aircraft (the X-45C and X-47A) were designed to be completely autonomous in their mission execution, from take off to landing. In fact, the ground stations have nothing resembling a joystick. Mission planning is performed prior to take-off and the vehicle is responsible itself for all re-routing and mission contingencies.

      The vehicles are configured to support the standard civil avionics elements such as TCAS, digitally encoded transponders, and data links to air traffic control. The only "frequency" challenge has to do with being able to backhaul voice communications with ATC to a human for interpretation and action when operating in airspace that doesn't support digital data links from ATC.

      Traffic deconfliction is usually performed by having the UCAS aircraft operate at altitudes specifically assigned for their use. The reality is that with a little work from the FAA to set aside some dedicated altitudes above 30,000' and ensure that ATC centers can all issue routing instructions via data link as well as voice, UAVs can quite happily and safely operate in the national airspace.

      The challenge is how (or if) to accommodate older UAV systems such as Predator and Globalhawk, which require man-in-the-loop control and could never be easily retrofitted to operate autonomously because of their need for persistent communications. Smaller UAVs that have performance or weight parameters that move them from the realm of R/C airplanes (and very light-weight UAVs) into the range of what the FAA defines as "aircraft" will have a serious challenge in the civil marketplace until they can adopt the degree of autonomy and ATC interaction that is just now emerging in the state of the art UAV programs.

      While current UAV suppliers and operaters are scrambling for frequency spectrum now, this is fundamentally a software and FAA (ICAO) procedural problem in the future. By 2011, we may find that the industry has moved beyond the first generation UAVs and the issue of spectrum allocation becomes moot. We can only hope so, because the man-in-the-loop control model for large UAV platforms is not the desired end state for the industry.

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  2. Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note to article submitters and editors: In the first use of an initialism or acronym it is good practice to write out in long form the title or phrase preceding the initialism or acronym, so the reader will know what you are talking about throughout an article without having to stop reading and go look it up.

    Otherwise you're mimmicking the drone who hides their lack of a real job or knowledge behind obfuscation.

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  3. It's Not Time Yet by dch24 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Like most really interesting technologies, Civil UAVs are a solution looking for a problem right now. There are a few really good applications that mostly law enforcement are looking at:
    • Fighting fires, especially at night (current FAA regs prevent piloted aircraft from flying into fires at night)
    • Mobile perimeter surveillance
    However, having worked in the UAV industry for the past five years, it's pretty apparent that the current solutions are still pricey. I remember seeing an article about the LAPD launching a UAV initiative for surveillance.

    The technology is advancing and prices are dropping, but it's not time yet. Watch companies like Aerovironment and the normal defense contractors (Northrop Grumman, Lockheed, General Atomics, etc.) for future developments.

    (Full disclosure: I don't work for any of these companies, and I don't plan on investing in them.)
    1. Re:It's Not Time Yet by arpad1 · · Score: 2, Informative
      There a couple of other possibilities:
      • agriculture - Yamaha's been selling the RMAX for 18 years for crop-dusting. Surveying growing crops from the air for signs of insect infestations allows for early, effective and minimal application of pesticides.
      • utilities - power companies run regular surveys of their lines, some by air, some from the ground but it's always expensive human beings who have to use their personal eyeballs.
      • search and rescue -
      • police surveillance - now done by manned helicopter and very expensively. Related but not exactly the same as the previous usage.
      • post-catastrophe assessment - after a hurricane or earthquake one big problem is finding the places that need the aid the most. The life and property toll can be reduced if the rescue personnel know which roads are passable and which aren't and which areas need them the most. UAV's might also be useful as communications access points in a post-catastrophe situation.
      • flying weather stations - there are a couple of UAV's who's claim to fame is their endurance. The first UAV to fly the Atlantic managed the trick in 1992. Have them buzzing around where it's difficult, dangerous, expensive for people to do gathering data not accessible by satellites.
      There's more but why go on? The point's made. Thing is, all the tasks I listed are doable with current technology. I don't think the list will shrink as the technology improves.
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  4. Star One by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What's more, no national aviation authority in the world will allow civil UAVs without a system for avoiding other aircraft.

    "Keldan Control, Keldan Control, this is Nova Queen on primary approach zero-four-zero. Request orbital entry clearance." [beep]

    "Nova Queen, Nova Queen, this is Keldan control. Maintain zero-four-zero. Orbital entry is clear." [beep]

    "Keldan Control, this is Nova Queen. I have an unidentified trace on zero-four-zero." [beep]

    "Nova Queen, this is Keldan Control. Maintain zero-four-zero and switch to Computer Flight Coordination." [beep]

    "Switching to CFC, maintaining zero-four-zero." [beep]
    [pause]
    "That ship is still coming at us." [beep]

    "Nova Queen, this is Keldan Control. The ship is an unmanned ore carrier on Computer Flight Coordination." [beep]

    "I hope you're sure about that, Keldan; it's still on zero-four-zero." [beep]

    "Nova Queen, computer control is confirmed. No problem." [beep]

    "You know that and I know that, but does the computer know that?" [beep]

    "It'll switch vectors any time now. Relax." [beep]

    "I'll relax when it gets that ship off zero-four-zero." [beep]

    "It will." [beep]

    "Keldan Control, I have four thousand passengers on this ship and that ore carrier is still on zero-four-zero!" [beep]

    "Computer flight coordination doesn't make errors." [beep]

    "To hell with that! Do something, Keldan; that thing is coming straight at us!" [beep]
    "Keldan Control!" [beep]

    "Nova Queen! Switch to manual control! Engage emergency boosters and abort zero-four-zero! Confirm please!" [beep]

    "I can see it! My God, it's too late!"

    "Nova Queen, Nova Queen, this is Keldan Control, do you copy?" [beep]
    "Nova Queen, Nova Queen, come in please!" [beep]
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  5. Model planes are illegal? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Informative
    Granted, they can only be flown in *uncontrolled* airspace by law, but that's still civil airspace.

    -b.

  6. Tin Foil Hat by dch24 · · Score: 2, Funny
    I really don't like the idea of unmanned surveillance vehicles flying over urban areas
    Perimeter surveillance -- for private corporations -- is one thing.

    But big brother obviously has the funds and is already doing border patrol between the USA and Mexico.

    The thing is, current technologies look for only really two things: motion or IR (body heat). If you were wearing enough tin foil you wouldn't have a heat signature. I recommend spray painting it black first. Then hop the fence and proceed into Texas.
  7. It's a Bird--- No! A Plane, No-- It's-- by postbigbang · · Score: 2, Funny

    One more GD thing to screw up general aviation.

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  8. Thank God. by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The US is one of the last countries that still has General Aviation. The airlines have been trying to gut it for years, post 9/11 regulations have done all they can to limit what pilots can do, and now we have UAVs. The only way to make UAVs "safe" from collisions will likely be to force everyone to fly under positive ATC control. If you have never flown low and slow in a Cub, do it now while you still can.

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  9. Not a chance they could be FAA approved anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I test UAVs for a living, and while this article may be true, there's much more to the story. UAVs, as they are currently designed, are 50-100 time more unsafe than military vehicles, and thousands of times more unsafe than commercial airliners (these numbers taken from Office of the Secretary of Defense report and white papers on the subject). The avionic computers they use are cheaper and less redundant than commercial aircraft by a large margin, and would not come close to meeting FAA standards. In addition, they require a large amount more of flight critical control software, all of which needs to be FAA certified also, and that takes a lot of time, test, and money. Bottom line is that don't hold your breath for civil UAV's, and go home and sleep soundly knowing you don't have to worry about unmanned air vehicles landing on your house overnight.

  10. Re:Bad idea, No Biscuit for you! by sponga · · Score: 2, Informative

    No more like L.A.P.D./Long Beach Helicopter Police like you usually get with a response time of a couple minutes or so; you should really just sit out one night on Signal Hill and watch the lights chase suspects through the neighborhoods and give lighting or use night vision for officers in dark areas.

  11. A matter of scale by erice · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not the greatest link but, excerpted from http://iagblog.blogspot.com/2006/06/faa-vs-la-sher iff.html

    "For RC aircraft flight, the A/C must stay lower than 400 feet AGL (FAA Advisory circular 91-57), and according to the Associationof Model Aricraft's safety code, must stay in the control of, and stay within the sight of,an operator at all times. Autonomous flight is forbidden."

    It wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a size limitation as well.

  12. No stupid questions, but some are silly. by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ``Has the industry cheated us of the benefits of civil UAVs by focussing on the demands of the military?''

    No, the industry was created pretty much ex niholo by its customers. Said customers were the military. Nobody else was thinking ahead far enough to anticipate this at this time. So blame whomever you like, but include yourself in there for not being any smarter than everyone else in the governments who didn't forsee it and start planning for it before we knew when it would be viable.

  13. Civil UAVs by CompMD · · Score: 4, Informative
    I work for a very well known aircraft design and consulting firm in the US. We have worked on numerous civilan UAVs. Personally, I have been a design reviewer for two UAV programs, performed engine testing for another program, and am currently coordinating flight test for another. Let me tell you a few things from the perspective of someone in the business.

    The Yamaha RMAX (mentioned in the article) is a nifty helicopter. It uses a water cooled engine, has composite body shell, airframe, and rotor blades, and a nice onboard computer called YACS. Recently, a nearby company in collaboration with the local university installed a third party autopilot system that interface with the YACS and a ground station controller. The RMAX had first autonomous flight at a remote Air National Guard range and was successful. The 150 meter range restriction placed on the helicopter has very little to do with its performance; the RMAX can easily fly much farther and higher. Some useful applications for an RMAX in the US would be for highway traffic monitoring in busy cities ($150,000 UAV vs. several million dollar Bell 206), search and rescue, surveillance, and low cost aerial photography.

    Aircraft can avoid each other, contrary to what the article states. Other users have mentioned TCAS, which warns a pilot when he is too close to another aircraft. The system interfaces with the aircraft's transponder and flight control system to decide what course correction should be made. For two aircraft approaching each other, opposite instructions will be given to the pilots so they fly away from each other. In a UAV, a system like this can be easily modified to simply command the flight control system to change course. In coordination with sense-and-avoid systems (RADAR), terrain avoidance, and other aircraft transponders, a safe automatic flight control system can be made for UAVs.

    The technology for UAVs is young, and the equipment being used in many UAVs is not up to par because the only regulation is "you can't fly UAVs." Commercial airliners have triple redundancy for flight critical systems. If you think you have a rat's nest of cabling in your server rooms, you've never seen the wiring in a jet. Even a business jet has a enormous quantity of wires running through it. The reason for so much redundancy is very simple: if aircraft systems fail, people die. Death is generally bad. Since there is nobody onboard UAVs, the same redundancy is rarely installed. I have not worked with a single UAV that has any sort of redundancy for flight critical systems. Now, I'm not saying all UAVs are this way; the GlobalHawk is most certainly well equipped with redundant systems. Because the manufacturing cost of UAVs is so much lower than manned aircraft, many are considered expendable. The maintenance costs of manned aircraft are very large, and for some aircraft, those costs can eclipse the acquisition price very quickly.

    There are many people involved in working with industry and the government to get UAVs flying in the US. Standard and regulations need to be formed, and I know several folks involved with that. Take a look at RTCA Special Committe 203 (SC203 Unmanned Aircraft Systems). Also look at groups like the Kansas UAV Consortium. They are comprised of industry, academia, government, and military partners dedicated to promoting UAV operations in Kansas and the US.

    The UAVs flying today are rather impressive. In October I was an exhibitor at the Unmanned Aerial Systems/Future Systems Symposium. There were demonstrations of the Aerovironment Raven and AAI Shadow 200 UAVs. Both the Raven and Shadow demonstrated very good flying qualities. The Shadow even performed a flawless landing on a dirt runway.

    Safety issues will be solved. If you're worried about the safety about civil UAVs when they get here, you aren't