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Ten Best, Worst, and Craziest Uses of RFID

An anonymous reader writes "This top 10 rounds up what it calls 'the best, worst and craziest' uses of RFID out there — including chipped kids at Legoland, smart pub tables that let you order drinks, smartcards for sports fans, and chipped airline passengers. The craziest use of the tech surely has to be RFID chips for Marks & Spencer suits — you couldn't pay most people to wear one of them."

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  1. "tagging beta" by dwandy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I get the first tag on this article, but what's "beta" got to do with RFID?

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  2. Unheard of! by svunt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I used to be a bartender, and one of the best things about the job is that the customers have to do the legwork. A bar where you can order while staying at your seat is a...um...restaurant? Table-service bar? This neat use of RFID is a lot like the bells Larry David insisted on in his restaurant in Curb Your Enthusiasm. What an amazing future we live in.

    1. Re:Unheard of! by svunt · · Score: 2, Informative

      Australia. There are bars with table service, but I've always been too smart arsed, lecherous and possibly unhygienic to get work at one.

    2. Re:Unheard of! by stevey · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The US is really good at this. Particularly useful when there's only two of you and the bar is packed with no space at the bar itself, because you avoid long gaps in the conversation while one of you goes to get the round in.

      That is certainly true, but I find that I'd be more inclined to have table-service in a large group since there is a lot more effort required to remember the orders in a round, and to physically carry them back to the table.

      Although, as a Scot, standing at the bar is one of the few times when it is OK to randomly chat to strangers with no real excuse/desire. Something that I missed when I was in American bars - you sit at your table, people fetch you drinks, and you don't end up randomly chatting to people at the next table. It feels more like drinking in your house with a friend or two.

    3. Re:Unheard of! by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Funny

      In the U.S. and Canada it is mostly a combination of both. There is a bar you can sit at and order drinks, or you can sit at a table. In most places if you sit at a table a waitress (better for the business as in most cases a female can get male drinkers to drink more) or waiter will come and take your order. The bartender at the bar serves drinks to the customers sitting there, and fills orders brought by the waitresses and waiters. I am pretty sure I have also seen this set up in Austria, Switzerland, The Netherlands, the Philippines, and I think in some nightclubs in England... but that was a while ago so I am not sure.

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    4. Re:Unheard of! by shawb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My question with this is... what does this have to do with RFID? The bar is set up with touchscreen menus at the table to order from. These may or may not be wireless and thereby use radio frequency for communications, but it is not an RFID bar.

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  3. chipped kids? Ok by rucs_hack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a parent I have to say that having my child chipped at an amusement park is just fine.

    I get scared every time I take my child to a fair or any other public gathering. I constantly watch him to ensure he's no more then ten feet away from me. I know that there are people who prowl such places on the lookout for unnattended children. paranoid? Perhaps, but I'd far rather be paranoid then the father of a dead child. No amount of paranoia is too much in such situations, so far as I'm concerned.

    If a chip meant his location could be tracked constantly I'd feel a lot happier. It's not likely that I'd lose sight of him, but I can say with absolute certainty that if I did *any* means of locating him would be acceptable.

    1. Re:chipped kids? Ok by travail_jgd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are two things to keep in mind:

      1. If the security system can detect the chip, so can the bad guys.

      2. RFID tags can be duplicated

      I don't have a problem with the way you're parenting -- it's your job to keep an eye on your child! The problem I have is with the parents who assume the magical tracker will work just like in the movies, and ignore their kids. (But when something bad happens, it's never their fault.)

    2. Re:chipped kids? Ok by DrSkwid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How a 10m proximity device would track his location constantly is a mystery to me.

      If he's being kidnapped, the napper would be aware that there is a very small window of opportunity to remove the child from the park before he's noticed missing, this window is made wider by your "it's ok he's been tagged, he'll turn up" mentality.

      And that window doesn't need to be very wide at all

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200606/s16726 04.htm

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    3. Re:chipped kids? Ok by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      your point is a valid one. However, paedophiles don't need rfid to locate a lone child, just reasonable observation skills.

      Where they to find a way to utilise rfid, they likely couldn't stop me simultaniously using the same system to find him. I hope not anyhow.

      The possibility exists that the very person who is after my child is the same person who is operating the system in the first place. I know of no way beyond complete paranoia to guard against this.

      Shit, I get scared that my boy wants to walk home from school on his own, I may not be the best person to comment on rfid...

    4. Re:chipped kids? Ok by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Funny

      As a parent I have to say that having my child chipped at an amusement park is just fine.

      As a non-parent who does not like kids and avoids them when I can, I'm just fine with your kid being chipped, too. The only addition I'd make is the ability to deliver a small electrical shock when they are being annoying, or "precious" as their parents descirbe it.

      Cold hearted? Yes.

    5. Re:chipped kids? Ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see more use in a device that gives the *parents* an electric shock, based on the number of decibels the child produces.

    6. Re:chipped kids? Ok by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Funny
      paedophiles don't need rfid to locate a lone child, just reasonable observation skills.
      You are, of course, ignoring the boost this technology will give to blind pedophiles.
    7. Re:chipped kids? Ok by gwyrdd+benyw · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ..Right up until a kidnapper takes the wrist band/dogtag off the kid and leaves it in a bathroom.


      I'd put the RFID tag in something the kid can swallow. It'll pass in a day or so, but until then you know that you can track the kid.
      I'd still also not let the kid out of my sight -- the chip is a backup only, not a replacement for good parenting.

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  4. RFID as a social-changing technology by Lord+Satri · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's often a confusion between passive and active tags, which have different types of uses and different capabilities, read about it on wikipedia. Additionally, Slashgeo (yup, plug) has a section on RFID tags.

    From TA: "RFID has also made an appearance in the army to try and reduce casualties from 'friendly fire' incidents." ... let's not forget the actual range limitation of most RFID tags.

    Yes, RFID is one of the geospatial technology which will have a significant impact on our lives. The "100% organic matter RFID chip developed in Korea, costing only 0.5 cents" kind of headlines will only be seen more often in the near future.

  5. wrong by joe+155 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The craziest use of the tech surely has to be RFID chips for Marks & Spencer suits -- you couldn't pay most people to wear one of them"

    This is just wrong, all they are doing is tracking things which they own in exactly the same way people currently do, you know those big-ass white things which are on your clothes and leave a hole in everything - it's essentially the same thing. It is just more efficient. No one would ever wear a suit with these in, and their article even accepts in when they state (the one they linked to from the article...) "[tags] are contained within throwaway paper labels called Intelligent Labels attached to, but not embedded in, a selection of men's suits". This sort of thing makes people who don't like the technology because it can track you look like tools who over-react. Don't keep doing this /.

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  6. M&S RFID by kylegordon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The craziest use of the tech surely has to be RFID chips for Marks & Spencer suits you couldn't pay most people to wear one of them."

    From another article linked from the main article...
    The RFID tags are contained in throwaway paper labels attached to, but not embedded in, a variety of men's and women's clothing items in stores. M&S uses mobile scanners to scan garment tags on the shop floor, and portals at distribution centres and the loading bays of stores allow rails of hanging garments to be pushed through and read at speed. and The retailer is aiming to use RFID tags to help achieve its goal of 100 per cent stock accuracy by ensuring the right goods and sizes are in the right stores to meet demand.

    It sure would be nice of submitters did a little bit of basic research about their comic headline statements before publishing them. It's quite obvious that M&S aren't aiming to get people to wear the tags. They're using them to improve their stock accuracy, and have provided a simple and easy way to get rid of the tag if you don't want it.

  7. footraces? EZ Pass toll gadgets? by JoeBackward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you enter a footrace you'll get a passive RFID tag to tangle in your shoelaces. This thing lets the race judging system give you a time. After you finish the race you throw the RFID tag in a bucket, and they reuse it on the next race. A great use of technology! Nice writeup here.

    http://www.marathonguide.com/features/Articles/Rac eTimingWithChip.cfm

    Toll transponders are another very convenient use of technology. Sure, there are some privacy issues, but they're convenient.

  8. from TFA by moogs · · Score: 2, Informative

    Children:
    Japanese authorities decided to start chipping schoolchildren in one primary school in Osaka a couple of years ago. The kids' clothes and bags were fitted with RFID tags with readers installed in school gates and other key locations to track the minors' movements.

    Legoland also introduced a similar scheme to stop children going astray by issuing RFID bracelets for the tots.

    Pub tables:
    Thirsty students can escape the busy bar and still get a pint thanks to RFID tables that deliver orders remotely.

    The high-tech bar is fitted with touchscreens so students can get a round in, order a taxi or even chat-up someone at the next table.

    Fulham Football Club:
    Fulham FC has started issuing RFID-enabled smartcards to fans to cut queues at the turnstiles and increase safety around the stadium.

    Around 20,000 of the smartcards have been issued to mainly season ticket holders and club members and contain data on matches each cardholder has paid for.

    Air passengers:
    It was also suggested by boffins at University College London that air passengers should be RFID-tagged as they mingle in the departure lounge to improve airport security.

    silicon.com's audience called the idea, amongst other things, Orwellian, intrusive and detrimental to airport security.

    Tanks:
    RFID has also made an appearance in the army to try and reduce casualties from 'friendly fire' incidents.

    Last year Nato's Operation Urgent Quest exercise tested the potential of a number of combat identity systems under battlefield conditions.

    Hospital in-patients:
    In an effort to trim clinical errors, hospitals in New York and Germany have been tagging their patients. Visitors to the hospitals are given RFID-chipped wristbands to wear which are scanned by medical personnel to bring up their records and make sure the patients are given the correct dosages of drugs.

    Blood:
    The same clinic which tags its patients is also tagging blood. No vampire-pleasing effort this, rather the Klinikum Saarbruecken is using the tags to make sure the right blood reaches the right patient. Nurses will be able to scan the tags using reader-equipped PDAs or tablet PCs and check that the blood data matches the information held on an RFID-tagged bracelet worn by the patient.

    The National Patient Safety Agency in the UK is also considering a similar move.

    Suits:
    Marks and Spencer has long been associated with being at the forefront of flogging ladies' undies. It's also now at the forefront of item-level tagging, having chipped some of its men's clothes. The retailer has avoided questions of privacy protection by attaching the tag to a label on the suit that can be cut off.

    M&S has now extended the trials nationwide.

    Passports:
    One of the more controversial applications is soon-to-be mandatory use of RFID in passports. The US is leading the way in deployments and the UK isn't far behind.

    As well as the obvious privacy fears that surround such rollouts, experts have questioned how secure the passports are with some claiming to have cracked and cloned them already.

    Books:
    The first item-level rollout in Europe has already taken place in Dutch book store BGN. Each of the books in BGN's Almere store is chipped and a second store, in Maastricht, will soon go the same way, allowing the retailer to track each book from its central warehouse to the shop floor.

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  9. Well consider this by The+Creator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As long as he does't have a chip on him you watch him irl when at LEGO-land. But now that he has the chip you can safely go to the parent longe and watch where he is on the KidLocator(tm) - and there he is, safely in plain site of everyone, where noone can hurt him, perhaps standing in line for a ride. You feel absolutely safe! Then 30min later you start to wonder why he is still in line, he should be on the ride by now. So you start to get a little worried, soon you decide to go check on him. So you go to the line and look for him, but all you find is his rfid-bracelet behind the trashcan...

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  10. Re:A good use by dapsychous · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Before we could implement a system like this, the laws would need to be revised. Right now, if an 18 year old has sex with his 17 year old girlfriend, and her parents don't approve, he goes to jail and has to be branded a sex offender for the rest of his life. If a guy pulls over on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere to use the bathroom in the woods because he can't make it to town and a cop sees, it's indecent exposure, and he's branded a sex offender for the rest of his life.

    Granted, children need to be protected, but this country has gone WWWWWAAAAAYYYY overboard with paranoia. I'm not saying that these things don't happen, but when you talk about taking people's rights away and branding them with a moniker like 'Sex Offender', you'd better be DAMN sure.

  11. Tagging books by lamona · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's been great controversy in libraries about the privacy implications of tagging books. The San Francisco Public Library board nixed the library's idea to switch from barcodes to RFID, even though the latter makes library circulation more accurate. Berkeley essentially fired its library director for implementing RFID tagging of books. Studies show that there are potential threats to privacy either by setting up a scanner outside of the library to see what people are taking out, or by targeting certain "hot button" titles and scanning to see who exits the library with them. These threats seem to be pretty outlandish to me since there are generally easier ways to monitor people's reading, like just following them around the library to see what book they take off the shelf. But some people are very worked up about this. Yet the library use of RFID is much less likely to result in a loss of privacy because the RFID tag will contain only an accession code, not the title of the book nor the ISBN. This is because libraries use a true item-level number for circulation, since they can have more than one copy of the same book. One would have to access the staff module of the library system to make the connection between the code and the book. With bookstore tagging of items, my guess is that at least part of the code on the tag will be the ISBN, which reveals the book title. It will be interesting to see if the same people get worked up about the bookstore's use of RFID if it ever hits the US. Right now, it's still considered too expensive to tag individual books.

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  12. I nominate the implanted RFID guy by danceswithtrees · · Score: 4, Informative
    I think that most people would agree that Amal Graafstra should take the prize for the craziest use of RFID. All of the other things on the list are so so. Most people would try it once, may or may not like it/find it useful/find it annoying. Very few would ever consider doing what this guy did- have a RFID surgically implanted into his hand. Here is the link:

    http://www.bmezine.com/news/presenttense/20050330. html

    There are before and after pictures as well as a video of the procedure.

  13. Usual rubbish by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wondering what good RFID was for transmitting orders to the bar, I decided to break with tradition and read TFA. And lo and behold "Orders are transmitted to the bar using ethernet over powerline". The only use of RFID is on some payment cards.

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  14. RTFA by JourneyExpertApe · · Score: 2, Funny

    The RFID chips are in the drinks. As you leave, they scan your belly so they know how much your tab was.

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