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Gracenote Founder Rewriting History At Wikipedia

An anonymous reader writes "Gracenote founder Steve Scherf is busy again in his attempts to rewrite history after his recent interview at Wired. This time around he is aggressively deleting or seeking removal of any content on Wikipedia that discusses the controversy behind the commercialization of the formerly GPL'd cddb. Slashdotters may remember when cddb joined the Bad Patent Club back in 2000. Gracenote followed up by filing lawsuits against its customers for trying to switch to freedb and for alleged patent violations. Are there any Slashdotters out there who know the facts about Gracenote — its history, its business practices, its lawsuits? Wikipedia needs your help."

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  1. or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    let them know how you feel by contacting them directly

  2. Re:nobody cares much any more by interiot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wikipedia has funding not directly related to Wikipedia, and in a way that can exert no possible editorial control or ownership over Wikipedia, eg. from wikia and answers.com. Having a decent amount of revenue on the side ensures that Wikipedia won't be at risk of needing on-site advertisements or otherwise having to cede any hint of editorial control to corporate interests.

  3. Re:My 0 cents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the best way to Fight Shitnote.

    In Windows at least. "replace '-' with a space"

    Add the following settings to the hosts file Located at \WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc

    212.91.252.38-----------cddb.cddb.com
    212.91.252.38-----------cddb.cddb.org
    212.91.252.38-----------cddb.cddb.net
    212.91.252.38-----------us.cddb.com
    212.91.252.38-----------sc.ca.us.cddb.com
    212.91.252.38-----------sc2.ca.us.cddb.com
    212.91.252.38-----------sj.ca.us.cddb.com
    212.91.252.38-----------sj2.ca.us.cddb.com

    You can also download an appropriate hosts file and put it in your Windows-directory, if you don't want to add the entries by hand. You can test if this works by directing your browser e.g. to cddb.cddb.com. You should see the freedb-website instead. Instead of using 212.91.252.38 as IP-address (which is the address of us.freedb.org), you can of course use the IP-address of any of our mirrors.

  4. Re:Copyrights of the database entries? by damiangerous · · Score: 4, Informative
    Everything that you write, even a shopping list, automatically has your copyright

    No, it doesn't. Just as a list of ingredients is not protected neither are facts. The manner of expression of those facts may be protected, but it certainly is not in the simple statement of "Album X by Band Y contains songs A, B, C and D" which is what the cddb is.

  5. Re:What a loaded question by interiot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Technically, it's Wikipedia policy to delete libellous revisions from the page history, [1] since it could be a legal issue. The same thing happened on the Seigenthaler page, as soon as Seigenthaler notified Wikipedia about the problem with his page, the libelous versions were deleted from history. [2] [3] In practice, there's a ton of vandalism, and libelous versions don't necessarily get deleted unless/until they're pointed out as being a problem ...and as you pointed out, it's not like this particular bit of information isn't recorded on Slashdot for posterity's sake.

  6. Microsoft was never a CDDB licensee?? by BoboB-69 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Found this wonderful bit of truthiness from Scherf at the Gracenote talk page at Wikipedia. He is in denial that no developers dropped CDDB (now Gracenote) after the commercialization. His memory must be deteriorating:
    (snip) you would understand that Microsoft was never a licensee, so the claim that they dropped Gracenote is totally impossible and false. Microsoft initially used third parties (who in turn used a wide variety of data sources, sometimes their own hand-entered data), not CDDB/Gracenote for its "Deluxe CD Player" product.(/snip)
    Here is the press release from Scherf's own company Gracenote's former parent, Escient about their purchase of CDDB, and it clearly states that Microsoft was a licensee :

    The CDDB database currently provides music CD identification information to more than 25 officially-supported players, including the new Microsoft(R) Deluxe CD Player (MSFT), as well as the Notify CD Player, Quintessential CD Player, Discplay 4, and Xmcd. http://web.archive.org/web/20000528085307/www.esci ent.com/aug1198.htm