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Best Way to Grab Movie Clips?

DorkusMasterus asks: "I work for my church in a volunteer sense, and I'm trying to produce a video that will incorporate video clips from films (short, less than 30 seconds per clip, more likely 5-10 seconds), and I am wondering what you fine folks use to grab clips from DVD and TV (in preferably an MPEG or AVI format when completed). Please keep in mind that I am not interested in something that would copy a full-length film, nor am I'm not advocating discussion on how to best pirate films. What utilities would you use to retrieve short clips from DVDs and other digital sources?"

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  1. Re:"But I only stole the hubcaps!" by earnest+murderer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fair use covers the use of short clips in specific circumstances.

    Also, copyright infringement is not theft.

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  2. Re:"But I only stole the hubcaps!" by EzInKy · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I don't know if you're the religious type (I assume so if you're volunteering for your church) but stealing short clips is still stealing. "Thou shall not steal" doesn't come with size qualifiers.


    Funny thing is that no matter how large a portion he uses nothing is missing from the original work. Nothing missing, nothing stolen.


    Producing a video for an audience to watch is even worse, you're basically using someone else's effort to create a product.


    Nobody creates anything in a vacuum so every new work is based on someone else's effort.


    And soliciting advice on how to hack into DVDs is a violation of the DMCA, agree with it or not.


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  3. Re:"But I only stole the hubcaps!" by arete · · Score: 2, Insightful

    DorkusMasterus's comment is very informative about fair use. And I agree that copying is never stealing. (Note: IANAL)

    HOWEVER:

    The BIGGEST reason why the DMCA needs to be struck down is that it does an end-run around fair use. It is completely within fair use to use clips from a copyrighted work. It certainly depends on the amount, but sampling is definitely allowed.

    What you _can't_ do under the DMCA is exactly what you're asking about: You can't circumvent copy protection no matter how trivial - and almost all commercial DVDs are encrypted. Under the DMCA (in the US only, of course) you can't legally do this EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE CLIP (under fair use) You can't even do this if YOU MADE the DVD. (Although presumably no one would sue you for that)

    Strangely, this seems to mean that if someone anonymously sent you the clip you WOULD be able to use it. (I'm also not yet aware of a case where they went after anyone for viewing any number of "shared" files - to my knowledge they've only gone after claims that someone did the SHARING. But I think they have a potential traditional-copyright claim, it just doesn't give them the massive powers of the DCMA) Or if you recorded the clip from an analog or unencrypted digital video out on a legitimate DVD player. Or from a VCR. Note that HDMI is NOT unencrypted, which is why they want to put it on your devices and why you _don't_ want it - because that's not an output that you can legally decrypt stuff from unless you're an approved HDMI device.

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