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German Minister Seeks Jail Time For FPS Players

GamePolitics has the somewhat unbelievable news that German Minister of the Interior Gunther Beckstein is seeking jail time for violent game developers, publishers, and players. MSNBC has further coverage of the issue, which has pro gamers in Germany quite worried. From the article: "The draft law, a reaction to a school shooting that shook German public opinion last month, will come before the upper house of parliament next year. But it is already sending shockwaves through the 2m-strong German online gaming community. 'We have among the most drastic censorship rules for games,' said Frank Sliwka, head of the Deutsche E-Sport Bund, an umbrella federation for German online gaming teams. 'Now we are being labelled as a breeding ground for unstable, dysfunctional and violent youngsters.'"

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  1. Not "German Minister of the Interior" by mseeger · · Score: 5, Informative
    Hi,

    he (Beckstein) is not the "German Minister of the Interior" but the one of Bavaria (german: Bayern). Bavaria is the most conservative state in germany, ruled for nearly 60 years by the same party. He has been joined in his attempt by the minister of interior of lower saxony.

    The core of the prolem is the definition of "killer games". Since nearly all major politicians are 60 or older, they have nearly no understanding of the topic. They believe e.g. that Counterstrike is played with a joystick and the goal of the game to be "killing hostages". Usually, hearing them, i'm torn between laughing and crying.

    Regards, Martin

  2. Beckstein NOT germanys Minister of the Interior by euice · · Score: 5, Informative

    He is the Minister of Interior of Bavaria, and Bavaria is just one of 16 states (Bundesland) in germany. That's like calling Arnold Schwarzenegger president of the united states.

    And besides that, he isn't even very popular in germany (at least outside bavaria).

    To give you a picture of his political position: The conservatives (CDU) are the largest party in germany at the moment, althouth they are only supported by about 35% across germany.

    In bavaria, things are a lot different. Bavaria is so conservative, that the more moderate CDU is split into two partys. The party in bavaria is called CSU, so the rest of germany does not link the radical positions of the CSU to the conservatives outside bavaria.

    That works incredible well: the CSU dominates bavaria around 60% for decades, with political statements like the above. And Mr. Beckstein is often the one saying the radical statements.

    Shall I mention that Mr. Beckstein is a huge fan of the Bush administration whereas most germans are not?

    1. Re:Beckstein NOT germanys Minister of the Interior by euice · · Score: 3, Informative

      Maybe I should add, that these these statements are not new.

      After the school shoot-out in erfurt 2002 the government introduced an age-rating on video games, although Mr. Beckstein and his political friends demanded the full ban of violent computer games.

      If you want a balanced report on this, read this article

  3. Re:WOW, more of the same by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's also important to remember that Beckstein is the Innenminister for Bavaria, not Germany. It's akin to the attorney general of Texas, not the AG of the USA.

    And yes, Beckstein's a git. It's taking him far too long to realise that he is one of the most unpopular politicians in Bavaria, now that Monica ("my daddy used to OWN this state!") Hohlmeier has been run out of town in disgrace.

  4. Re:It's all the games' fault! by dangitman · · Score: 3, Informative

    For example: discussion proceeds (the information is free) until someone invokes Godwin's law (invokes the state secret law) and then you can't talk about whatever it is anymore.

    You don't seem to have any idea of what Godwin's Law is. It does not prevent further discussion, or stop information from being "free." It is simply a statement of probability. This is what Godwin's Law says:

    As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

    It says nothing about such comparisons being valid or invalid. It says nothing about discontinuing the discussion, or winning an argument - as so many people mistakenly argue. It just says that lengthy online discussions are more likely to contain comparisons to Nazis than brief discussions.

    --
    ... and then they built the supercollider.